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A Dance with Dragons (A Song of Ice and Fire, #5) (original: 2011; edição: 2011)

de George R.R. Martin

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New threats emerge to endanger the future of the Seven Kingdoms, as Daenerys Targaryen, ruling in the East, fights off a multitude of enemies, while Jon Snow, Lord Commander of the Night's Watch, faces his foes both in the Watch and beyond the great Wallof ice and stone.
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Título:A Dance with Dragons (A Song of Ice and Fire, #5)
Autores:George R.R. Martin
Informação:Bantam (2011), Kindle Edition, 1125 pages
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A Dance With Dragons de George R. R. Martin (2011)

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  MagpieBricolage | Jul 17, 2021 |
Reading Martin reminds me of having my eyes dilated.

Seriously, it's getting frustrating to the point of being not worth it. This book, the fifth in the series, is basically a 400-500 page novel crammed into nearly 2,000. I'm not opposed to reading a book that long, but there needs to be a reason. Martin seems to have run out of reasons. I'm telling you right now-- this series will end like the Sopranos. Ain't nobody gonna be happy, 'cause he's out of ideas.

I say this book is like having your eyes dilated because all you ever read in the myriad chapters is the periphery of what's going on. Until the last 100 pages, there is precious little of consequence, and less of interest. I was excited after picking up the fourth book because I thought maybe I had been premature in my dismissing it, but now I see that Martin really is a one-trick pony. He can make you care about a character, then kill that character without warning. No big deal, and I'm not one of those who threatens to not read anything he writes because of that. That's part of medieval living--people die, and often the "good" ones die first. So what. But we're kept intentionally in the dark and it seems as if Martin is determined to fill page after page after page with inconsequential trivia without one indication that something is going on elsewhere. It's the literary equivalent of jumping out at someone from a darkened hallway. Easy to get a reaction, but as likely to piss someone off.

I swear to god, he spent nearly half a page describing the various badges on knights' shields very near the end of the book. Why? Who knows. Because he could? I told my wife that Martin was developing Harry Potter syndrome, wherein his books are getting longer even while he seems to be running out of plot. I noticed this reading the last few Harry Potter books-- so much development of things that served very little importance, or at least in disproportion to the amount of page space. In ADWD, we get stupid, pointless chapters of tedious detail about how one group is traveling to Meereen to meet up with Daenerys, only to be convinced by Tyrion to return to Westeros. Meanwhile, we learn nothing new about anything, except that maybe the Targaryens weren't quite as wiped out as previously believed.

I imagine there is no shortage of Martin sycophants out their saying "Oh, but he's building a world out of scratch, you need time and pages for world-building." No. Reading Martin is like reading a random generator engine. He has all the little sprinkles of fantasy genre, without any of the thought behind it. Change the spellings of common names to make them "foreign"? Check. Dust off the dictionary of obscure English words? Check. Ape the feudal and chivalric systems of Europe/England? Check. Ding ding! Fantasy.

What really pisses me off about this is that he has good ideas, they just get lost in the shuffle. There is just enough drama to keep one engaged, though I found the trick wasn't to read each word, but to skim and read the dialog. Frequently, anything that isn't being spoken just isn't that important. Likely, he's describing food, or weapons, or listing names. There was one chapter devoted to the movement of wildlings through the Wall. People walking in a line, through a tunnel. For the whole chapter. Riveting. Then, to keep us interested, he hints at something of consequence getting ready to happen, and that was the clearest indication that the chapter was coming to a close.

At the end of this book (and no sooner! you could literally skip to the last 200 pages and not be particularly lost) there are some interesting occurrences, but often it seems like Martin only has the one well to go to-- kill major characters. It was upsetting, but after a while no longer a surprise and honestly, more than a bit lazy. Seriously, mix it up a little bit. I suppose I should have seen it coming with the constant reference to the song "Rains of Castamere" by Tyrion and others.

Yes, I likely will finish the series (that is, if Martin finishes the series). It's good enough that after the investment, I feel I need to see it through. Still, It will have to remain summer reading, as I can't waste this much time reading something this insubstantial for this many pages when I have other things to do. Martin would be wise to get to the point a bit, instead of submitting every precious word for publication. I'm sure there are some who never want to leave the world he's "created," just like there are those who never want to leave the world of Harry Potter. But four books in and it's becoming too frustrating. Pages after hundreds of pages with nothing happening is like only being able to see clearly through your peripheral vision after dilation. Not a lot of fun and leaving you in the end to be impatient for it to all be over. ( )
  allan.nail | Jul 11, 2021 |
As you can read everywhere on the Internet, Martin should be embarassed for making the millions of fans on Song of Ice and Fire wait 5 years for this book. He picks up with some of the main characters still living, but mostly or completely ignores others, and introduces many new ones outside of Westeros, who will be left outside the real story. The ending was lame, with nothing resolved, perhaps even a death or two. Sure hope the next one comes along sooner. ( )
  skipstern | Jul 11, 2021 |
I spent way too many hours of my life on this series. I wouldn't have done if I didn't find it somewhat enjoyable though. For some reason I thought this was going to be the last one. ( )
  flemertown | Jul 10, 2021 |
If you don’t want to be spoiled on Game of Thrones on HBO, you probably need to read the books. Book 3 is still my favorite, 4 least favorite. #5 is somewhere in the middle. Don’t want to spoil anything, but to say it follows a lot of my favorite characters. ( )
  adamfortuna | May 28, 2021 |
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It's terrible. Martin has taken the concept of the pot-boiler to an extreme — it's a novel where nothing happens other than continual seething, roiling turmoil. He whipsaws the reader through a dozen different, complex story lines where characters struggle to survive in a world wrecked by civil war — one other problem is that I'd hit a chapter about some minor character from the previous four books, and struggled to remember who the heck this person is, and why I'm supposed to care — and again, nothing is resolved. Well, not quite: major characters are brutally killed, if they're male, and graphically and degradingly humiliated into irrelevance if they're female. I guess that's a resolution, all right — perhaps the last book will be a lovingly detailed description of a graveyard, draped with naked women mourning?
adicionado por jimroberts | editarPharyngula, PZ Myers (Jul 28, 2011)
 
Martin remains boundlessly creative, sketching out intricately realized new civilizations, societies, religions, and factions on one continent while continuing to complicate the established political agendas on another. No part of his world ever feels like an afterthought or an easy fantasy cliché.
 
Even so, “A Dance With Dragons,” for its bounty of adventure, is more about Mr. Martin marshaling his forces in anticipation of the cycle’s final two books.
adicionado por DieFledermaus | editarNew York Times, Dana Jennings (Jul 14, 2011)
 
Was "A Dance With Dragons" worth the six-year wait? Absolutely.
 

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