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The Apology, Phaedo and Crito of Plato; The Golden Sayings of Epictetus;… (1909)

de Charles William Eliot (Editor), Epictetus, Marcus Aurelius, Plato

Outros autores: Hastings Crossley (Tradutor), Benjamin Jowett (Tradutor), George Long (Tradutor)

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Im in love with this book. When I first finished it, I immediately turned back and began again, doubtless, its a true gem. It seeks to remind you that before we, as individuals or as a race, seek to remedy our problems in the external world, we should have a care to achieving freedom, courage, and greatness of mind within. Although by this late date much of the initial vigor and authenticity of the great early Greeks such as Heraclitus, Anaxagoras, and Diogenes had given way to derivative codified systems, in this work we find the philosophers life being lived undiminished, with a broad mind, a powerful body, and an unfettered soul. We, modern citizens of the western world, with our paltry souls, shriveled from long disuse, flat and bloodless from discharge of desire, have very much to learn. I recommend it highly to anyone looking for a way to improve their existence. Giving it careful study will give you a direction in which to go in order to obtain wisdom. And wisdom is like a mountain spring to him who of it drinks; for it flows on and ever more, and never goeth dry. These golden ideas comes from his lessons on Stoicism that was recorded by one of his students. The philosophy is deceptively simple, but effective. These simple tactics are helpful in facing the daily stresses of life.… (mais)
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This volume was interesting, enlightening, but profoundly frustrating.

Let’s start with interesting. Most Christians have little or no idea how much of their belief system is founded on Platonic and Stoic principles in place of Judaism. Reading these works helped me to see the extent of the damage!

Next comes enlightening. There is a lot of wisdom packed into this volume that can be mined and practiced even in a Christian milieu. Here’s some of the good stuff:

* Men of Athens, I honor and love you; but I shall obey God rather than you. — Plato
* The difficulty, my friends, is not in avoiding death, but in avoiding unrighteousness; for that runs faster than death. — Plato
* To you, all you have seems small: to me, all I have seems great. Your desire is insatiable, mine is satisfied. — Epictetus
* I esteem what God wills better than what I will. — Epictetus
* Tranquility is nothing else than the good ordering of the mind. — Aurelius
* Where a man can live, there he can also live well. — Aurelius

Finally, reading this was frustrating. I became very irritated by the Stoic’s propensity to passively accept everything the universe might throw their way. The constant refrain of "remember your death" wears thin after a while also, because there’s no hope in Stoicism. The body’s just a prison that returns to dust while the divine part flies up and does something we’re not quite sure about until it happens. ( )
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This was, so far, one of my favorite reads in the Harvard Classics collection that I've amassed. The dialects of Plato were wonderfull, and the sayings of the ex-slave Epictetus were amazing for their sense of praticality and resignation in relation to our lives...even today. Marcus Aurelius' meditations were by far though, my favorite section of the compilation. His ability to delve into himself, the world and the universe around him all while ruling an Empire were amazing to me...especially when thinking about how aloof our world leaders seem today. ( )
  Tahlil77 | Mar 30, 2007 |
As Hegel had it, the two great philosophers of stoicism were an emperor and a slave, respectively. ( )
  gbanville | Jan 8, 2007 |
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This is volume 2 of the Harvard Classics series. Please do not combine with any of the other volumes of the series. Also, please do not combine with any of the individual works, which include:
  • The Apology, Phaedo and Crito of Plato
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Im in love with this book. When I first finished it, I immediately turned back and began again, doubtless, its a true gem. It seeks to remind you that before we, as individuals or as a race, seek to remedy our problems in the external world, we should have a care to achieving freedom, courage, and greatness of mind within. Although by this late date much of the initial vigor and authenticity of the great early Greeks such as Heraclitus, Anaxagoras, and Diogenes had given way to derivative codified systems, in this work we find the philosophers life being lived undiminished, with a broad mind, a powerful body, and an unfettered soul. We, modern citizens of the western world, with our paltry souls, shriveled from long disuse, flat and bloodless from discharge of desire, have very much to learn. I recommend it highly to anyone looking for a way to improve their existence. Giving it careful study will give you a direction in which to go in order to obtain wisdom. And wisdom is like a mountain spring to him who of it drinks; for it flows on and ever more, and never goeth dry. These golden ideas comes from his lessons on Stoicism that was recorded by one of his students. The philosophy is deceptively simple, but effective. These simple tactics are helpful in facing the daily stresses of life.

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