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Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland (edição: 2018)

de Patrick Radden Keefe (Autor)

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Documents the notorious abduction and murder of Jean McConville in 1972 Belfast, exploring how the case reflected the brutal conflicts of Northern Ireland and their ongoing repercussions. ""Meticulously reported, exquisitely written, and grippingly told, Say Nothing is a work of revelation." --David Grann, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Killers of the Flower Moon From award-winning New Yorker staff writer Patrick Radden Keefe, a stunning, intricate narrative about a notorious killing in Northern Ireland and its devastating repercussions In December 1972, Jean McConville, a thirty-eight-year-old mother of ten, was dragged from her Belfast home by masked intruders, her children clinging to her legs. They never saw her again. Her abduction was one of the most notorious episodes of the vicious conflict known as The Troubles. Everyone in the neighborhood knew the I.R.A. was responsible. But in a climate of fear and paranoia, no one would speak of it. In 2003, five years after an accord brought an uneasy peace to Northern Ireland, a set of human bones was discovered on a beach. McConville's children knew it was their mother when they were told a blue safety pin was attached to the dress--with so many kids, McConville always kept it handy for diapers or ripped clothes. Patrick Radden Keefe's mesmerizing book on the bitter conflict in Northern Ireland and its aftermath uses the McConville case as a starting point for the tale of a society wracked by a violent guerrilla war, a war whose consequences have never been reckoned with. The brutal violence seared not only people like the McConville children, but also I.R.A. members embittered by a peace that fell far short of the goal of a united Ireland, and left them wondering whether the killings they committed were not justified acts of war, but simple murders. From radical and impetuous I.R.A. terrorists--or volunteers, depending on which side one was on--such as Dolours Price, who, when she was barely out of her teens, was already planting bombs in London and targeting informers for execution, to the ferocious I.R.A. mastermind known as The Dark, to the spy games and dirty schemes of the British Army, to Gerry Adams, who negotiated the peace and denied his I.R.A. past, betraying his hardcore comrades--Say Nothing conjures a world of passion, betrayal, vengeance, and anguish"-- "A narrative about a notorious killing that took place in Northern Ireland during The Troubles and its devastating repercussions to this day"--… (mais)
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Título:Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland
Autores:Patrick Radden Keefe (Autor)
Informação:Doubleday (2019), 464 pages
Coleções:2010's, All Read, Project, Read in '20, Audiobooks
Avaliação:*****
Etiquetas:Non-print, Non-fiction, Ireland

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Say Nothing: A True Story of Murder and Memory in Northern Ireland de Patrick Radden Keefe

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Thrilling!

At first, I struggled to get into it. I think because of the plethora of names, locations, factions, etc., that are explored to set the scenery. Possibly because I knew absolutely nothing at all about The Troubles except whatever I’ve picked up from the odd Tom Clancy book/movie (and, thus, very probably less than nothing).

The book is exceptionally well paced, and the author threads the stories so delicately that when the pictures start to come together there are times when you can’t help but sit upright.

The book explores themes of moral injury and ambiguous loss in ways I find deeply fascinating. More, the book explores the stories communities tell themselves and how factions interact with communities as mitigators and agitators. From page 402:

“In the intertwining lives of Jean McConville, Dolours Price, Brendan Hughes, and Gerry Adams, I saw an opportunity to tell a story about how people become radicalized in their uncompromising devotion to a cause, and about how individuals—and a whole society—make sense of political violence once they have passed through the crucible and finally have time to reflect.”

A great opportunity, and there are plenty of things we can view as analogous re: how populations/communities warp around themselves.

Great read — would recommend! ( )
  ThomasEB | Jul 4, 2024 |
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  reirem | Mar 28, 2024 |
Bloody, intense. ( )
  rockvillemama | Jan 24, 2024 |
This book is very well written and kept my interest. While there is little new here apart from some revelations late in the story and some guesswork, Radden Keefe keeps you absorbed in the villainy at work.

This is a good primer on the Civil War in Northern Ireland and a lot of detail on IRA chieftain and later peace negotiator Gerry Adams. You won’t come away liking him, I believe.

There are two stories running in parallel: the disappearance of Jean McConville, a single mother of 10 children living in a small apartment; and the adventures of Dolorous Price, a foot soldier in the IRA Provisional Army, a “Provo.”

But the core protagonists almost seem a sideshow to the larger battle when I think the author wants you to see things from the ground up. The big picture continually intrudes on the stories.

There is some attention to contemporary issues like PTSD and the abuse of children in residential homes, but these are not the main story either.

Most of the words come from the killers themselves.

For a book titled “Say Nothing” there sure is a lot of blabbing.

Plenty of blabbing and a lot of grousing about The Good Friday Agreement officially ending hostilities between Catholic and Protestants. But no debate of the Agreement on its merits.

A curious omission.

For those not in the know, Ireland struggled for its independence early in the 20th century after being a colony of the British Crown for centuries. Its majority Catholics never accepted the Reformation and the establishment of the Church of England and, as a result, suffered religious bigotry and worse from their English overlords. England eventually abandoned Southern Ireland but retained ownership of the north where the majority were Protestants loyal to the Crown.

The Agreement — there are actually several — coordinates the politics of Northern Ireland with the Republic of Ireland to the south. It guarantees that when a majority of northerners vote to join the Republic, the United Kingdom will allow it to secede.

The IRA agreed to disarm and the Protestants agreed to power-sharing. The police are reorganized and depoliticized. IRA’s political wing Sinn Fein and its leaders are given political legitimacy. And Britain agrees to remove its soldiers.

This is the background to the book and pretty important to understanding the behaviour of the combatants. It is also important for understanding how Brexit could unravel the whole thing.

The violence and dirty tricks did not completely stop with the signing if the agreements. And today’s fluid border between north and south could close again.

Toward the end of the book Keefe muses whether the culture of secrecy that pervades Irish culture accounts for the much of the political violence and much more: violence against women, sexual predation of children, violence against informants, the mentally unfit due to trauma arising from the violence itself or living conditions, and violence against other so-called accomplices of the oppressors.

And I would add one more category: substance abuse. Many of the characters in this book are obviously victims of alcohol and drug abuse. Many crimes are committed when under the influence, and suicide for many is not far behind.

We see these same factors at work in our own society through neglect, from traditions of male authority of the household, and through sheer intimidation.

A society does well to put the political grievances aside not only to halt political violence, but to allow some sunlight on our other challenges as a community. In this world, sovereignty is not enough. Whether Irish are part of Ireland or England, there are transnational challenges: the rising tide of migration for economic opportunity, to escape civil war, to escape environmental degradation, or endemic crime and corruption.

People expect a lot from their government and the institutions we rely on cost money. Participation in democracy is expensive, time consuming, and slow moving whatever your ethnic stripe. Still, people feel safer surrounded by their own. ( )
  MylesKesten | Jan 23, 2024 |
The blurb on the book led me to think this was a true crime story, but instead I learned a lot about the conflict in Northern Ireland and how the IRA operated there half a decade ago. Jean McConville's murder serves as a touchpoint around which the history, settings, and people are explained. I don't know about a "searing, utterly gripping saga" but it engaged both my interest and my emotions.

Audiobook, borrowed from my public library. Excellent narration by Matthew Blaney. ( )
  Doodlebug34 | Jan 1, 2024 |
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Documents the notorious abduction and murder of Jean McConville in 1972 Belfast, exploring how the case reflected the brutal conflicts of Northern Ireland and their ongoing repercussions. ""Meticulously reported, exquisitely written, and grippingly told, Say Nothing is a work of revelation." --David Grann, #1 New York Times bestselling author of Killers of the Flower Moon From award-winning New Yorker staff writer Patrick Radden Keefe, a stunning, intricate narrative about a notorious killing in Northern Ireland and its devastating repercussions In December 1972, Jean McConville, a thirty-eight-year-old mother of ten, was dragged from her Belfast home by masked intruders, her children clinging to her legs. They never saw her again. Her abduction was one of the most notorious episodes of the vicious conflict known as The Troubles. Everyone in the neighborhood knew the I.R.A. was responsible. But in a climate of fear and paranoia, no one would speak of it. In 2003, five years after an accord brought an uneasy peace to Northern Ireland, a set of human bones was discovered on a beach. McConville's children knew it was their mother when they were told a blue safety pin was attached to the dress--with so many kids, McConville always kept it handy for diapers or ripped clothes. Patrick Radden Keefe's mesmerizing book on the bitter conflict in Northern Ireland and its aftermath uses the McConville case as a starting point for the tale of a society wracked by a violent guerrilla war, a war whose consequences have never been reckoned with. The brutal violence seared not only people like the McConville children, but also I.R.A. members embittered by a peace that fell far short of the goal of a united Ireland, and left them wondering whether the killings they committed were not justified acts of war, but simple murders. From radical and impetuous I.R.A. terrorists--or volunteers, depending on which side one was on--such as Dolours Price, who, when she was barely out of her teens, was already planting bombs in London and targeting informers for execution, to the ferocious I.R.A. mastermind known as The Dark, to the spy games and dirty schemes of the British Army, to Gerry Adams, who negotiated the peace and denied his I.R.A. past, betraying his hardcore comrades--Say Nothing conjures a world of passion, betrayal, vengeance, and anguish"-- "A narrative about a notorious killing that took place in Northern Ireland during The Troubles and its devastating repercussions to this day"--

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