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The Dispossessed (1974)

de Ursula K. Le Guin

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Séries: Hainish Cycle, Chronological (1), Hainish Cycle (6)

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"One of the greats?.Not just a science fiction writer; a literary icon." - Stephen King From the brilliant and award-winning author Ursula K. Le Guin comes a classic tale of two planets torn apart by conflict and mistrust - and the man who risks everything to reunite them. A bleak moon settled by utopian anarchists, Anarres has long been isolated from other worlds, including its mother planet, Urras-a civilization of warring nations, great poverty, and immense wealth. Now Shevek, a brilliant physicist, is determined to reunite the two planets, which have been divided by centuries of distrust. He will seek answers, question the unquestionable, and attempt to tear down the walls of hatred that have kept them apart. To visit Urras-to learn, to teach, to share-will require great sacrifice and risks, which Shevek willingly accepts. But the ambitious scientist's gift is soon seen as a threat, and in the profound conflict that ensues, he must reexamine his beliefs even as he ignites the fires of chan… (mais)
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    The Left Hand of Darkness de Ursula K. Le Guin (Algybama)
  2. 41
    His Master's Voice de Stanisław Lem (TMrozewski)
    TMrozewski: Both deal with the social and cultural roots of science.
  3. 30
    Rocannon's World de Ursula K. Le Guin (andomck)
    andomck: Both are books in the Hainish Cycle.
  4. 20
    A Ilha de Aldous Huxley (themulhern)
    themulhern: Two utopian books. The advantage of LeGuin's is that it doesn't have anything worth exploiting and it is a rocket flight away.
  5. 20
    Embassytown de China Miéville (sparemethecensor)
  6. 10
    Distress de Greg Egan (aulsmith)
    aulsmith: These books share isolated anarchist communities and discoveries in physics that change everything.
  7. 10
    Doctor Mirabilis de James Blish (jpers36)
    jpers36: Life story of a genius physicist destined to revolutionize a stagnant culture with his radical scientific insights.
  8. 10
    New York 2140 de Kim Stanley Robinson (LamontCranston)
  9. 10
    The Player of Games de Iain M. Banks (themulhern)
    themulhern: Two opposing cultures collide in both works. Urras = The Empire but their opposites (Annares and The Culture) have very little in common. Annares is determined by scarcity, the Culture by its lack.
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    Amatka de Karin Tidbeck (andomck)
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    The Moon Is a Harsh Mistress de Robert A. Heinlein (aulsmith)
    aulsmith: A different moon, a different anti-authoritarian community, but the same experience of thinking about other ways to run human societies
  12. 11
    Elric of Melniboné de Michael Moorcock (andomck)
    andomck: Brooding,introspective sci fi/fantasy
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    The Necessary Beggar de Susan Palwick (MyriadBooks)
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    The Handmaid's Tale de Margaret Atwood (LamontCranston)
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    A Revolta de Atlas de Ayn Rand (lauranav)
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The philosophizing, oh the philosophizing was agonizing. I have read Le Guin's short stories, but this was my first novel. I was so bored! I despise Shevek, I did not care about the Physics, the stakes. Sadly, I was disappointed in the dullness of this novel. I think there is some (almost) fascinating dialogue happening about the implications of societal norms on ideas, culture on ideas, ideology, political morality, morality in general. I am sad that I was so bored. ( )
  ocassim | Feb 10, 2024 |
A book club pick :)

I have been in love with Le Guin’s writing for a very long time, and I was in love with it once again. There are beautiful lines in The Dispossessed.

“That vivid memory and the cool vast touch of the night wind awakened him. His soul came out of hiding.”

“Awe came into him. He knew himself blessed though he had not asked for blessing.”

My favourite thing about the book was following Shevek and how every chapter alternated between his past and the book’s present – Shevek’s coming of age, his evolution, and the relationships that grow and change, as his spirit finds freedom. All the pages that had Shevek and Takver in them were riveting.

To me, this was a story of exile and belonging, of leaving the world you know and coming home, of the impossibility of utopia.

I do wish that Le Guin hadn’t made this novel into an extremely long political science essay. It did not blend well with the rest. Reading about Urras and Anarres is not uninteresting; but contrasting a capitalist society with an anarchist/communist one does not feel like a useful exercise in 2023. Yes, I can tell where Le Guin is coming from describing the extreme misogyny of Urras (I’m with you there, dear author):

“If to respect himself Kimoe had to consider half the human race as inferior to him, how then women manage to respect themselves – did they consider men inferior?”

Anarres’s egalitarian society taken to extreme feels like a dictatorship to me, with a public opinion that can punish you, suffocate you, take your soul away.

The treatment of children on Anarres made me cringe, it reminded me of one of those things dictatorships love – parents can’t raise good citizens, their influence is harmful, let the state take care of this instead (and people formed by the same mold are so much easier to influence, yay). The author seemed to approve of this, and it soured the book for me. I debated the final rating with myself for quite a while.

Still, 4.0 stars it is - because Shevek was there.
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  Alexandra_book_life | Dec 15, 2023 |
Lovely. Very thoughtful and beautiful, not in a geographical sense, but in the humanity sense. Philosophical at its core , an examination of political structures, the nature of beings and how they are shaped and influenced by their societies. Good stuff. The protagonist, Shevek, is compelling and sympathetic making reading the story through his eyes very enjoyable.
1 vote BookyMaven | Dec 6, 2023 |
An incredible, inspiring, fascinating, emotional, political, thought provoking book. Yes, it's obviously in the vein of utopian literature, but the anarchist society isn't free from conflict- Le Guin talks about the differences in opinion, the burdens of public expectations. The sketch of an anarchist society is incredible, and far more inspiring and convincing than any anarcho communist polemic. Utopian fiction is amazing to give us an idea of how the future can be, not as a blueprint but a way of making us feel it's possible. Le Guin captures the human essence of such a society, the reason it's desirable- the mutual aid, solidarity, the satisfaction of working together and working only for need and for pleasure. She talks about the risks to individuality even when each individual is free- to me this isn't so important but she handles the topic so well it's cool. She covers so many topics about what freedom is, what an individual's responsibility to the majority is, to what extent wealth matters, it's great

I like the people complaining that it's not hard sci fi enough -there's a bunch of techno babble regarding the alien physics that feels almost like it was mocking the people looking for that sort of story where social structures aren't questioned and instead it's western capitalism right now in space. Le Guin pretty much keeps to very recognizably human stuff- there's even the equivalent of the ussr USA cold war- which keeps things relatable and understandable while changing up the social structures to create something that genuinely makes you think about your expectations of human actions.

It ends on a sort of cliffhanger, but it fits the book - the theme of needing to make your own path, things being a process rather than something that just ends at some point. The journey is the destination. I liked that the anarchists' sealing themselves off on the moon was presented almost as a dereliction of duty -like cutting off from the process of revolution on their home planet, in the phrase of the book going out but never making the return journey.

Her writing is brilliant and affecting - it captured the feelings of loss, loneliness, isolation, and solidarity, sometimes hitting very close to home.

some people would probably compare it to Ayn rand or something but it's so different - Le Guin clearly supports the anarchists but she looks at everyone involved fairly and tries to question the details of people's ideas. None of the characters are weird ubermensch. Everyone has conflicts and problems and different ideas and it's not clear the solution to everything ever or exact levels of culpability. It's great ( )
1 vote tombomp | Oct 31, 2023 |
It has some slow parts but really interesting ideas and concepts ( )
  enlasnubess | Oct 2, 2023 |
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Doch wollte Le Guin mit den Habenichtsen und ihrem Planeten weder ideale Menschen schildern, noch eine ideale Gesellschaft. Zu deutlich zeichnet sie die Schwächen und Mängel beider. Nicht nur die Urrasti, auch viele der Menschen auf Anarres sind hab- und machtgierig, intrigant und Karrieristen, obwohl es dort offiziell weder eine Hierarchie noch Eigentum gibt. Doch dafür werden die Anarresti gelegentlich "gezwungen, auf eigenen Wunsch für einige Zeit wegzugehen", weil die Gesellschaft sie andernorts braucht - oder auch, weil sie einem Mächtigeren im Weg sind. "Ein Paar, das eine Partnerschaft einging, tat dies in voller Kenntnis der Tatsache, dass es jederzeit durch die Erfordernisse der Arbeitsteilung getrennt werden konnte." Es gibt Zwangsarbeit, und Dissidenten werden schon mal zur "Therapie" auf einsame Inseln verbracht, und schon im ersten Teil des Romans stellt Shevek resignierend fest, "dass man für niemanden etwas tun kann. Wir können uns nicht gegenseitig retten. Nicht mal uns selber."
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You shall not go down twice to the same river, nor can you go home again. That he knew; indeed it was the basis of his view of the world. Yet from that acceptance of transience he evolved his vast theory, wherein what is most changeable is shown to be fullest of eternity, and your relationship to the river, and the river's relationship to you and to itself, turns out to be at once more complex and more reassuring than a mere lack of identity. You can go home again, the General Temporal Theory asserts, so long as you understand that home is a place where you have never been.
Like all power seekers, Pae was amazingly shortsighted. There was a trivial, abortive quality to his mind; it lacked depth, affect, imagination. It was, in fact, a primitive instrument.
Nobody's born an Oxonian any more than he's born civilized! But we've forgotten that. We don't educate for freedom. Education, the most important activity of the social organism, has become rigid, moralistic, authoritarian. Kids parrot Odo's words as if they were laws--the ultimate blasphemy! (p.168
We have no government, no laws, all right. But as far as I can see, ideas never were controlled by laws and governments, even on Urras. If they had been, how would Odo have worked out hers? How would Odonianism have become a world movement? The archest tried to stamp it out by force, and failed. You can't crush ideas by suppressing them. You can only crush them by ignoring them. But refusing to think, refusing to change. And that precisely what our society is doing! Sabul uses you where he can, and where he can't, he prevents you from publishing, from teaching, even from working. Right? In other words, he has power over you. Where does he get it from? Not from vested authority, there isn't any. Not from intellectual excellence, he hasn't any. He gets it from the innate cowardice of the average human mind. Public Opinion! That's the power structure he's part of, and knows how to use. The unadmitted, inadmissible government that rules Ordonian society by stifling the individual mind. (p. 165)
What's the good of an anarchist society that's afraid of anarchists? (p. 379)
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"One of the greats?.Not just a science fiction writer; a literary icon." - Stephen King From the brilliant and award-winning author Ursula K. Le Guin comes a classic tale of two planets torn apart by conflict and mistrust - and the man who risks everything to reunite them. A bleak moon settled by utopian anarchists, Anarres has long been isolated from other worlds, including its mother planet, Urras-a civilization of warring nations, great poverty, and immense wealth. Now Shevek, a brilliant physicist, is determined to reunite the two planets, which have been divided by centuries of distrust. He will seek answers, question the unquestionable, and attempt to tear down the walls of hatred that have kept them apart. To visit Urras-to learn, to teach, to share-will require great sacrifice and risks, which Shevek willingly accepts. But the ambitious scientist's gift is soon seen as a threat, and in the profound conflict that ensues, he must reexamine his beliefs even as he ignites the fires of chan

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