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The Book of Dust: The Secret Commonwealth (Book of Dust, Volume 2) (edição: 2019)

de Philip Pullman (Autor)

Séries: The Book of Dust (2)

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The #1 New York Times Bestseller! Return to the world of His Dark Materials--now an HBO original series starring Dafne Keen, Ruth Wilson, James McAvoy, and Lin-Manuel Miranda--in the second volume of Philip Pullman's new bestselling masterwork The Book of Dust.   The windows between the many worlds have been sealed and the momentous adventures of Lyra Silvertongue's youth are long behind her--or so she thought. Lyra is now a twenty-year-old undergraduate at St. Sophia's College and intrigue is swirling around her once more. Her daemon Pantalaimon is witness to a brutal murder, and the dying man entrusts them with secrets that carry echoes from their past.   The more Lyra is drawn into these mysteries, the less she is sure of. Even the events of her own past come into question when she learns of Malcolm Polstead's role in bringing her to Jordan College.   Now Lyra and Malcolm will travel far beyond the confines of Oxford, across Europe and into the Levant, searching for a city haunted by daemons, and a desert said to hold the truth of Dust. The dangers they face will challenge everything they thought they knew about the world, and about themselves.   Praise for The Book of Dust "It's a stunning achievement, this universe Pullman has created and continues to build on." --The New York Times   "Pullman's writing is simple, unpretentious, beautiful, true. The conclusion to The Book of Dust can't come soon enough."--The Washington Post… (mais)
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Título:The Book of Dust: The Secret Commonwealth (Book of Dust, Volume 2)
Autores:Philip Pullman (Autor)
Informação:Knopf Books for Young Readers (2019), 656 pages
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There's no denying Pullman's a good author. I care about the characters, I care about their stories, and I'm excited to catch up with Lyra as a young adult, years after the original trilogy. It's also cool to see Malcolm from "Belle Sauvage" as a very capable adult, and it's very intriguing to see Pullman explore the many fascinating concepts of Lyra's world (dæmons and Dust, notably) in ways that were never really addressed in the first books. But all that said, a 720 page novel should not feel like the first third of a story, and that's what this does. It doesn't really go anywhere, it only moves characters around (psychologically and geographically), introduces villains and allies and sets up plotlines, conflicts and concepts, The pacing is uneven, and especially the middle third of the book felt like it dragged a lot. It finally picks up the pace a bit towards the end -- but then it is over, Now, I realise it's a middle volume in a trilogy, I wasn't expecting closure. But I was expecting something that felt like a temporary ending; a narrative resting place. But the cliffhanger end isn't even really a cliffhanger; it's the scene directly before (in one plotline) and directly after (in another) a cliffhanger. That, combined with the slow and sometimes unfocused feel of the narrative in earlier sections of the book, hampers my enjoyment of it as a whole rather a lot. There's also the slight feeling for having been promised something not delivered by the title -- while the novel goes out of its way to explain it, many times, it never really feels all that relevant, merely tangential to Lyra's inner conflicts, and if anything, the way things are set up by the end it feels like it'll be the next book that will truly delve into what's described as the Secret Commonwealth. I have every confidence the final book will pay off all of this set-up, but by the time he's written it, I'll likely have forgotten many of the details here -- and while it in time might prove to warrant revisiting once the finale is finished, "Secret Commonwealth" was just not enough fun to re-read in its own right. ( )
  Lucky-Loki | Aug 7, 2021 |
Not nearly as good as La Belle Sauvage. I'm begging Pullman to stop trying to write romance into his adventure novels. ( )
  jalbacutler | Aug 5, 2021 |
Very long, considering it's just one third of the story; on the other hand, I didn't mind.

A quote about "bullshitting" seemed very apt to our current world:
"...Mr. Scoresby ... told me there were truth tellers, and they needed to know what the truth was, so as to tell it. And there were liars, and they needed to know what the truth was, so they could change it or avoid it. And there were bullshitters, who didn't care about the truth at all. They weren't interested. What they spoke wasn't the truth and it wasn't lies; it was bullshit. All they were interested in was their own performance." [p. 276]

,.. as does this quote about how to maintain control when new things are discovered:
"... we should delicately and subtly undermine the idea that truth and facts are possible in the first place. Once the people have become doubtful about the truth of anything, all kinds of things will be open to us." [p. 297] ( )
  raizel | Jul 21, 2021 |
20 years after being delivered to Jordan College and nearly a decade after she left Will, Lyra is a student at St. Sophia's College in Oxford when she is drawn back into intrigue involving the Magisterium.

Lyra's world and her story have grown with her. This is not the fantastical world of His Dark Materials: there are no armored bears, no rollerskating elephants. It's set in Lyra's parallel world, and while the stakes are high, they are--so far--earthly. Lyra is fighting on two fronts: one against palace intrigue in the Magisterium that threatens her, and on a personal level. Following their forced separation and now Lyra's discovery of hyper-rationalist philosophy, her daemon Pantalaimon has left her and she has to journey alone to the Middle East.

The tone is darker and more adult, and Pullman isn't shy about pulling in more mature themes involving not just the Church but government repression and the plight of refugees. Lyra faces adult dangers, too, including sexual assault. HDM was well known for its atheism, but Pullman takes a slightly different--and interesting--tack here (though the Magisterium continues to be a malignant power, and there's also veiled attacks on extremist Islam). Instead of religion, his target is extreme rationalism, the idea that all that there is is what we can see and experience directly. Pan believes that Lyra's reading has robbed her of her imagination.

While I liked La Belle Sauvage well enough, it didn't reach the heights of the original trilogy for me. The Secret Commonwealth takes it to a higher level by raising the stakes and maintaining two searches for Lyra--for the rose oil that the Magisterium wants, and more importantly for herself. ( )
  arosoff | Jul 11, 2021 |
I think when he was writing The Secret Commonwealth, Philip Pullman just really wanted all the fans of His Dark Materials to shut up and stop asking what happened to Lyra next. After teasing longtime fans and readers with La Belle Sauvage, finally a book about Lyra Silvertongue is announced and the story we get is self-important and depressing. If you’re a fan of The Golden Compass and you haven’t read the gigantic tomes in the decades-later follow-up series yet… well, you’re welcome. I’ve done it for you so you don’t have to suffer.

First of all, the plot was… boring, I guess? There were a few different storylines running simultaneously through different POVs and I personally did not find any of them interesting. In fact, I’m a bit perplexed as to what kind of story Pullman wanted to tell, and further confused as to why it’s all Lyra’s story again. It’s almost as though both La Belle Sauvage and The Secret Commonwealth were worldbuilding notes that Pullman had about Oxford and its world… but he wanted to loop in Lyra because he wanted to draw the readers of His Dark Materials into his new series. Realistically, I believe both the novels in The Book of Dust would be better served in the same world of His Dark Materials but following different characters.

Pantelimon is absolutely correct in saying Lyra has lost her imagination. As a character, she seems to have lost more than that. I understand that the character has grown up, but she feels like an entirely different character than the one we left in The Amber Spyglass. She has lost her curiosity and interest in the world. She’s lost her drive and optimism. Her entire journey in His Dark Materials did not take this from her, but going to school has. This, in particular, made me feel like the story should have belonged to a different character.

There were a couple aspects that made me a bit uncomfortable, writing-wise. There are scenes regarding homosexuality that I don’t feel Pullman was classified to write, and frankly, made me cringe a bit with the way he spoke about it. It’s one of those things that, in reading, it feels more like he was expressing his own (problematic) understanding of the LGBTQIAP+ community. From a social perspective, I hated that he said one could learn to love a woman after a while. From a worldbuilding perspective, it seemed like he went against how he explained daemons in his world earlier. There were also scenes where Lyra was wearing a niqāb, and Pullman was not subtle in how he wrote Lyra behavior felt like a judgment on the logic of niqābs and hijabs and I just… didn’t… like it. Finally, there is an attempte rape scenes that, again, I don’t feel Pullman was qualified to write. I dunno. Maybe I’m being overly critical. Maybe I’m reading into something that isn’t there. Either way, I didn’t like it. If he consulted outside sources or had sensitivity readers or any of that, it certainly isn’t references in the Author’s Note.

The story doesn’t become interesting until the last half hour of the twenty hour audiobook. Most the story is a journey, but Pullman seems to have lost his skill at making that journey interesting without making it vulgar. I just… don’t think I’m compelled enough to read the final book because both of the previous two have been far too long and went little to nowhere. I’m just not invested enough in the story to waste more hours of my life seeing the ending.

I love, I love His Dark Materials. But I can’t in good conscious recommend either La Belle Sauvage or The Secret Commonwealth. I was hoping the series was going to get better, but it hasn’t. If you have fond memories of His Dark Materials, I’m inclined to recommend avoiding this one as not to tarnish what you know of Lyra. Enjoy her adventure, you don’t need to know what happens next. Your time is more valuable than that. ( )
  Morteana | Jun 20, 2021 |
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The Secret Commonwealth is a book whose political signification is much closer to the surface than in earlier work: both the refugee crisis and the current state of democracy are repeatedly referenced. There's something really interesting going on here: by interjecting familiar real-world concerns into a well-loved fiction universe, Pullman gives them added urgency, powerful resonance. A scene in which a ferry capsizes a boat of refugees is almost unreadably tragic; doubly so when we see it through the eyes of Lyra, with whom many of us have grown up. [...]

It's darker and more dangerous than much YA fiction, but there was nothing here that my 11-year-old couldn't handle – indeed he raced through it quicker than I did; loved it, if possible, even more. [...] That Pullman is our best children's author is clear; The Secret Commonwealth establishes him as one of our greatest writers, full stop.
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The #1 New York Times Bestseller! Return to the world of His Dark Materials--now an HBO original series starring Dafne Keen, Ruth Wilson, James McAvoy, and Lin-Manuel Miranda--in the second volume of Philip Pullman's new bestselling masterwork The Book of Dust.   The windows between the many worlds have been sealed and the momentous adventures of Lyra Silvertongue's youth are long behind her--or so she thought. Lyra is now a twenty-year-old undergraduate at St. Sophia's College and intrigue is swirling around her once more. Her daemon Pantalaimon is witness to a brutal murder, and the dying man entrusts them with secrets that carry echoes from their past.   The more Lyra is drawn into these mysteries, the less she is sure of. Even the events of her own past come into question when she learns of Malcolm Polstead's role in bringing her to Jordan College.   Now Lyra and Malcolm will travel far beyond the confines of Oxford, across Europe and into the Levant, searching for a city haunted by daemons, and a desert said to hold the truth of Dust. The dangers they face will challenge everything they thought they knew about the world, and about themselves.   Praise for The Book of Dust "It's a stunning achievement, this universe Pullman has created and continues to build on." --The New York Times   "Pullman's writing is simple, unpretentious, beautiful, true. The conclusion to The Book of Dust can't come soon enough."--The Washington Post

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