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La forêt sombre de Cixin Liu
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La forêt sombre (original: 2008; edição: 2017)

de Cixin Liu (Auteur), Gwennaël Gaffric (Traduction)

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"With the scope of Dune and the rousing action of Independence Day, this near-future trilogy is the first chance for English-speaking readers to experience this multple-award-winning phenemonenon from China's most beloved science fiction author. In Dark Forest, Earth is reeling from the revelation of a coming alien invasion--in just four centuries' time. The aliens' human collaborators may have been defeated, but the presence of the sophons, the subatomic particles that allow Trisolaris instant access to all human information, means that Earth's defense plans are totally exposed to the enemy. Only the human mind remains a secret. This is the motivation for the Wallfacer Project, a daring plan that grants four men enormous resources to design secret strategies, hidden through deceit and misdirection from Earth and Trisolaris alike. Three of the Wallfacers are influential statesmen and scientists, but the fourth is a total unknown. Luo Ji, an unambitious Chinese astronomer and sociologist, is baffled by his new status. All he knows is that he's the one Wallfacer that Trisolaris wants dead"--… (mais)
Membro:Pokebowl
Título:La forêt sombre
Autores:Cixin Liu (Auteur)
Outros autores:Gwennaël Gaffric (Traduction)
Informação:Actes Sud (2017), 720 pages
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The Dark Forest de Liu Cixin (2008)

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8/21/2018
I really enjoyed The Three Body Problem, and I wanted to enjoy this one, too. I made it 1:39 hours into the audiobook before I had to bail. Part of the problem is that this was a different narrator than the previous book. It's always unsettling to have different narrators in a series, and this one (P.J. Ochlan) just didn't work for me. When reading non-dialog, he was a little too slow, and his voices were not real consistent or distinctive. But the biggest issue for me was that he pronounced the Chinese names very... natively? Very fast and indistinctly. Now, I hate that this makes me sound like a stupid American, but when reading foreign names, it's easy to at least identify that a group of letters indicates a specific person, even if you have no idea how the name is pronounced. In TTBP, the narrator pronounced the names at the same speed that he narrated the rest of the book, and even if I couldn't actually visualize what the name was, I was usually able to discern them from each other (although in that book I did miss the reappearance of an earlier character later in the book). But this narrator might as well be sneezing for each name, as I spent too much time trying to identify the characters apart.
So couple all of that with the fact that the story pace itself was a bit on the slow side, and I found that I just did not have the patience to stick it out. I'm going to move this one to my DNF shelf - maybe in time I'll find myself yearning to finish the story.
  KrakenTamer | Oct 23, 2021 |
  eldang | Oct 3, 2021 |
Second in the series and just as fascinating and mind-stretching as the first. Very enjoyable. On to Book 3. ( )
  PhilipJHunt | Oct 2, 2021 |
Ajoittain jopa puuduttavaa luettavaa piristää ovela juoni ja tahdinvaihdokset tarinan lennossa. Niinpä odotellaan kolmatta osaa... pelastaako jokin ihmiset? ( )
  hirvela | Sep 7, 2021 |
I should love this series. It scratches all my science fiction itches. It is a continuous onslaught of intriguing ideas. It has a complex plot loaded with intrigue. It has an enormous scale both in terms of time and space. It explores the universe and humanity’s place in it, supported by science/physics. It has sections of lyrical prose and well-crafted imagery. And don’t get me wrong, I’m enjoying the series. I’ll definitely read the last in the trilogy. However, surprisingly, I don’t love it. In fact, there were some sections that felt like a chore to read.

If you’re not familiar with this series, it’s a colossal story of humanities first contact with a distant race – the Trisolarians. Hugo award winning book one (The Three Body Problem) starts with the Chinese Culture Revolution, then explores contact with the Trisolarians and their incredible backstory. Anymore would be a spoiler for book one, so I’ll leave it at that.

“The Dark Forest” largely takes place on Earth. The highly technically advanced Trisolarians are embarking for Earth and while it will take them four centuries to arrive, humanity must decide how best to make use of the centuries before they arrive. Should they escape into the cosmos, build defenses to repel the Trisolarians, or just live in peace until judgement day. This is a massive summarization, the plot itself is a highly complex tale involving science, physics, human government evolution, clandestine tactics and even love in the face of a potential approaching apocalypse.

All of this, the plot, the themes, the wonder, and ideas are right in my strike zone, so why am I not loving this series? Well, I found book one to be disjointed and muddled, possible because of the cultural differences and translation. I find the same challenges with “The Dark Forest.” At times, the plot feels like multiple short stories strung together. And I think there are chapters which would work great as a short story but feel out of place to me in this series. An example includes a story line where a primary character falls in love with a fictional character. Not to say these flourishes aren’t connected to the storyline, but the style is so different, it took me out of the reading.

In addition, I struggle with the characters in both books. A few characters are slightly distinctive, but so many felt flat and similar. I had to really pay attention to the names, because the character’s personalities never came alive in my mind. They all felt the same to me, same voice, same persona. And when I don’t care about the characters, it’s difficult to care too much for the story.

However, the ideas pretty much save this book for me. Unique, mind-bending ideas keep coming, one after another. Other science fiction writers could write a whole series based on just a few of these ideas, but Cixin Liu keeps them coming at a steady stream. In fact, another complaint of mine, is that just when I feel like I’m beginning to explore the implication of one of these concepts, boom, were off to another! Anyway, I still recommend this series, as the scale, the wonder, the ideas, overwhelmed my inability to fully connect with the characters and therefore the story.

An epic tale of impending alien invasion crammed full with mind-stretching science implications, that while failing to consistently connect on an emotional level, delivers a veritable treasure of daring and fascinating concepts. ( )
  Kevin_A_Kuhn | Aug 23, 2021 |
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Nome do autorFunçãoTipo de autorObra?Status
Liu Cixinautor principaltodas as ediçõesconfirmado
Altayó, JavierTraductorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Betz, KarinTradutorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Bremer, MarkNarradorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Echlin, P.J.Narradorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Liu, KenTranslator.autor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Martiniere, StephanArtista da capaautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Martinsen, JoelTradutorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Ochlan, P. J.Narradorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
Roubicek, BrunoNarradorautor secundárioalgumas ediçõesconfirmado
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"With the scope of Dune and the rousing action of Independence Day, this near-future trilogy is the first chance for English-speaking readers to experience this multple-award-winning phenemonenon from China's most beloved science fiction author. In Dark Forest, Earth is reeling from the revelation of a coming alien invasion--in just four centuries' time. The aliens' human collaborators may have been defeated, but the presence of the sophons, the subatomic particles that allow Trisolaris instant access to all human information, means that Earth's defense plans are totally exposed to the enemy. Only the human mind remains a secret. This is the motivation for the Wallfacer Project, a daring plan that grants four men enormous resources to design secret strategies, hidden through deceit and misdirection from Earth and Trisolaris alike. Three of the Wallfacers are influential statesmen and scientists, but the fourth is a total unknown. Luo Ji, an unambitious Chinese astronomer and sociologist, is baffled by his new status. All he knows is that he's the one Wallfacer that Trisolaris wants dead"--

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