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El bosque oscuro/ The Dark Forest (Trilogía…
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El bosque oscuro/ The Dark Forest (Trilogía de los Tres Cuerpos) (Spanish… (original: 2008; edição: 2018)

de Cixin Liu (Autor)

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"With the scope of Dune and the rousing action of Independence Day, this near-future trilogy is the first chance for English-speaking readers to experience this multple-award-winning phenemonenon from China's most beloved science fiction author. In Dark Forest, Earth is reeling from the revelation of a coming alien invasion--in just four centuries' time. The aliens' human collaborators may have been defeated, but the presence of the sophons, the subatomic particles that allow Trisolaris instant access to all human information, means that Earth's defense plans are totally exposed to the enemy. Only the human mind remains a secret. This is the motivation for the Wallfacer Project, a daring plan that grants four men enormous resources to design secret strategies, hidden through deceit and misdirection from Earth and Trisolaris alike. Three of the Wallfacers are influential statesmen and scientists, but the fourth is a total unknown. Luo Ji, an unambitious Chinese astronomer and sociologist, is baffled by his new status. All he knows is that he's the one Wallfacer that Trisolaris wants dead"--… (mais)
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Título:El bosque oscuro/ The Dark Forest (Trilogía de los Tres Cuerpos) (Spanish Edition)
Autores:Cixin Liu (Autor)
Informação:Nova (2018), Edition: Media tie-in, 576 pages
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The Dark Forest de Liu Cixin (2008)

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I am *shooketh* at Liu’s bleak answer to the Fermi Paradox: life in the cosmos is a zero sum game. Some of the best high concept sci-fi I’ve read, with the most imaginative, epic scenes of devastation. Liu is gifted in envisioning extreme human behavior in the aggregate (e.g., the Battle of Darkness, the Great Ravine), but he lacks skill in fleshing out individual characters and their motivations. Though the characters are one-dimensional vessels that exist just to carry out the plot, I’ll forgive flaws because of the insanely metal concepts. ( )
  jiyoungh | May 3, 2021 |
Cixin Liu’s The Dark Forest generally operates on a galactic scale. But it starts with the perspective of an ant.

The diminutive point of view is more than just an authorial flex (although it’s certainly that too). In The Three-Body Problem, the first book in Liu’s The Remembrance of Earth’s Past series, an alien race called the Trisolarans cuts off communications with humanity by declaring, “You’re bugs!” This isn’t just an idle insult. The Trisolarans are on their way to Earth, with far superior technology and a burning need to find a new world to colonize. If that means squishing a few (human) cockroaches to make room, so be it.

Fortunately, it’s a long journey from Trisolaris (the invaders’ home planet): the bulk of the Trisolarans’ fleet won’t arrive for four hundred years. In theory, that gives humanity plenty of time to prepare. But the Trisolarans deployed scouts that double as technology blockers—humans can no longer use particle accelerators to obtain the deep understanding of physics necessary to compete against such an advanced species.

The Dark Forest picks up as this realization sets in. Doomsday may be four centuries off, but few people think it can be avoided. Nevertheless, most of the world begins mobilizing for an interstellar war they expect to lose.

Liu shows us this through new eyes (after he moves beyond the ant’s). Almost none of the characters from The Three-Body Problem carry over in a significant way, with the notable exception of Shi Qiang, a police officer who played a supporting role in the first book. Instead, we follow new players like Luo Ji, a run-of-the-mill academic, and Zhang Beihai, a political commissar in the Chinese navy.

I wouldn’t have minded seeing more of Ye Wenjie and Wang Miao (the protagonists of The Three-Body Problem). But the shift of focus didn’t bother me much either. This series is driven far more by ideas than characters.

One of the central thought exercises is working through how humanity would respond to an existential-yet-far-off threat. (The parallels with climate change are intriguing, except in this case, the Trisolarans represent a sentient, malevolent danger that’s harder to deny.) Apathy and defeatism manifest early, and Zhang and others work hard to cultivate a more optimistic fighting spirit.

Liu is also excellent at projecting scientific progress in a way that seems plausible. The Dark Forest shows us some potential near-term developments like space elevators and then jumps ahead two hundred years to show us the types of leaps—touch screens on every surface; inexhaustible energy delivered via microwaves—that might be possible with sustained effort.

At least one of his forecasts has already proven false, though. Liu wrote The Dark Forest in 2008, and one of its early movers and shakers is a fictional Venezuelan leader who “carried forward the Bolivarian Revolution instigated by Hugo Chavez … boosting the country’s power across the board and—for a time—turning Venezuela into a city on a hill, a symbol of equality, justice, and prosperity for the world.” If only. (Whatever you think of Chavez, it’s impossible not to lament the state of misery Venezuela devolved into following his death.)

A few other devices strained credulity less tragically (like a spontaneous, near-telepathic exchange during a climactic moment late in the book). I also wish The Dark Forest had a more dynamic female character. There are women in prominent roles—leaders of international organizations and captains of starships—but they don’t get much time on the page. The active cast members are all male.

But I still found The Dark Forest consistently interesting, and it ended in a more resolved place than I expected for the middle book in a trilogy. I’m curious to see where Book 3 goes—and what else Liu can dream up for me to marvel at.

Note: Since the translation uses the English versions of the author’s name and his characters’, I did the same in this review.

(For more reviews like this one, see www.nickwisseman.com) ( )
  nickwisseman | May 1, 2021 |
The second part was way better then the first one, so it's simple. When you liked the first one, you will love this one ( )
  TofuBuchling | Apr 14, 2021 |
Liu Cixin. The Dark Forest. 2008. Translated by Joel Martinsen. Remembrance of Earth’s Past No. 2. Tor, 2015.
The Dark Forest is the sequel to Liu’s The Three-Body Problem. It continues the story in a creditable way but does not have as many obvious historical metaphors embedded in its structure as the first volume. Disclaimer: It is quite possible they are there and I missed them. The plot involves Earth’s struggle to develop an strategy to defeat an approaching Transolarian fleet. The Trisolarians have sabotaged human ability to make progress in theoretical physics, assuring that our engineering solutions will be ineffective. Liu’s presentation of our engineering solutions is lively and inventive. The general strategy is strange, hampered by human cussedness as well as Trisolarian sabotage. 4 stars. Recommended. ( )
  Tom-e | Apr 8, 2021 |
Holy hell.

It's awesome that Liu references the Foundation books in one chapter, because the Dark Forest has Asimov's fingerprints all over it. Everything in the Dark Forest emulates all what I loved about the Foundation/Robots/Empire series; big ideas, space, psychology, philosophy, civilization, science, hope, despair, fear and love. It's amazing how this book felt like it crammed 1,000 pages into 512 but it's just that dense.

It has a totally different feel from the Three Body Problem; I will admit that the first book lost me a few times, but I was entranced by the Dark Forest from the first page. The concept of the Wallfacers is really interesting, if a bit fantastical. The sophons, the threat of the Trisolarians and the different strategies presented are thrilling.

4.5 because I don't think Liu quite gets how regular people talk, but that could be a lost in translation type thing. I will say, the translation is very solid so I don't want you to get the wrong idea, it was a very easy read in that regard. The scientific explanations of fuel, space, radio, energy, among other aspects, did go over my head a few times but I don't think Liu uses it to confuse readers, but rather to lend weight to the story. It makes it feel all the more real. The Dark Forest has elements of The Expanse and the Foundation series and that is about as high praise as I can give. If you're a fan of hard science fiction, I can't recommend this enough.

Also, Da Shi rocks and is my favorite character in any of the books so far. ( )
  hskey | Mar 17, 2021 |
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"With the scope of Dune and the rousing action of Independence Day, this near-future trilogy is the first chance for English-speaking readers to experience this multple-award-winning phenemonenon from China's most beloved science fiction author. In Dark Forest, Earth is reeling from the revelation of a coming alien invasion--in just four centuries' time. The aliens' human collaborators may have been defeated, but the presence of the sophons, the subatomic particles that allow Trisolaris instant access to all human information, means that Earth's defense plans are totally exposed to the enemy. Only the human mind remains a secret. This is the motivation for the Wallfacer Project, a daring plan that grants four men enormous resources to design secret strategies, hidden through deceit and misdirection from Earth and Trisolaris alike. Three of the Wallfacers are influential statesmen and scientists, but the fourth is a total unknown. Luo Ji, an unambitious Chinese astronomer and sociologist, is baffled by his new status. All he knows is that he's the one Wallfacer that Trisolaris wants dead"--

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