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1girlunderglass
Editado: Dez 28, 2009, 8:15 am

Previous threads:
Books 30-49
http://www.librarything.com/topic/65077
Books 20-29
http://www.librarything.com/topic/61389
Books 1-20
http://www.librarything.com/topic/55773

Rating system:
★ - hated it (lousy)
★★ - it was OK, I suppose (mediocre)
★★★ - enjoyed it (good)
★★★★ - loved it! (very good)
★★★★★ - all-time favorite (amazing)

BOOKS READ SO FAR IN 2009: 75

December
75. The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz-Zafon ★★★1/2
74. La Oveja Negra y Demas Fabulas by Antonio Monterroso ★★★1/2
73. The Last Samurai by Helen DeWitt ★★★★1/2
72. All Tomorrow's Parties by William Gibson ★★★
71. Nate the Great by Marjorie Weinman Sharmat ★★★

November
70. After You'd Gone by Maggie O'Farrell ★★★★
69. Ghost World by Daniel Clowes ★★★★
68. Plain Pleasures and Other Stories by Jane Bowles ★★★1/2
67. The Book of Daniel by E.L. Doctorow ★★★★
66. Oroonoko by Aphra Behn ★★★
65. Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon ★★★
64. A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle ★★★★

October
63. Libra by Don DeLillo ★★★★
62. The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving ★★★
61. The Island of Dr. Moreau by H.G. Wells ★★★1/2
60. Endgame by Samuel Beckett ★★★
59. The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov ★★★1/2

September
58. Complete Stories and Poems by Edgar Allan Poe (re-read) ★★★1/2
57. Cele Mai Frumoase Poezii by Vasile Alecsandri ★★★1/2
56. How to Read and Why by Harold Bloom ★★★
55. Dracula by Bram Stoker ★★★1/2 ? ★★★★ ?
54. Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood ★★★★
53. To Poiitiko Topio Toy Ellinikou 19ou kai 20ou Aiona by Vaggelis Athanasopoulos ★★★1/2
52. 1700: Scenes From London Life by Maureen Waller ★★★★

August
51. Learning and Teaching by Michalis Kassotakis ★★
50. Dawn of the Dumb: Dispatches from the Idiotic Frontline by Charlie Brooker ★★★★
49. My Name Is Asher Lev by Chaim Potok ★★★★
48. Night by Elie Wiesel ★★★1/2
47. Driving Over Lemons by Chris Stewart ★★★★
46. The Cow Who Fell In the Canal by Phyllis Krasilovsky ★★★

July
45. 500 Essential Graphic Novels: The Ultimate Guide by Gene Kannenberg ★★★★1/2
44. The Wide Window by Lemony Snicket ★★★
43. The Reptile Room by Lemony Snicket ★★★1/2
42. The Merchant of Venice by William Shakespeare ★★★★
41. V V (Viva) by E.E. Cummings ★★★

June
40. Teaching and Learning in the Language Classroom by Tricia Hedge ★★1/2
39. As You Like It by William Shakespeare ★★★
38. Othello by William Shakespeare ★★★1/2
37. Mourning Becomes Electra by Eugene O'Neill ★1/2
36. Our Town by Thornton Wilder ★★★★
35. Mary Barton by Elizabeth Gaskell ★★★1/2
34. The Apple: New Crimson Petal Stories by Michel Faber ★★★★
33. Watchmen by Alan Moore ★★★★★ (here)

May
32. Tender Is the Night by F.Scott Fitzgerald ★★★ (here)
31. Quicksand by Nella Larsen ★★★★ (here)
30. Nostalgia by Mircea Cartarescu ★★★★ (here)
29. Federico García Lorca Para Niños by F.G. Lorca ★★★
28. The Crimson Petal and the White by Michel Faber ★★★★1/2

April
27. Whose Body? by Dorothy L. Sayers ★★★
26. The Way Men Act by Elinor Lipman ★★★1/2
25. Virtual Light by William Gibson ★★1/2
24. Idoru by William Gibson ★★★★
23. El Clavo Y Otros Relatos by Pedro Antonio de Alarcón ★★1/2
22. Retal by Fernando Fernán Gómez ★★★1/2

March (my Month of the Firsts)
21. Jazz by Toni Morrison ★★★1/2 (here)
20. Emma by Jane Austen ★★★★
19. Haiku by Basho Matsuo ★★★1/2
18. Enter Jeeves: 15 Early Stories by P.G. Wodehouse ★★★
17. The Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula K. Le Guin ★★★★1/2

February
16. Over to You: Ten Stories of Flyers and Flying by Roald Dahl ★★★
15. The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time by Mark Haddon ★★★1/2
14. The War of the Worlds by H.G. Wells ★★★
13. Twilight by Stephenie Meyer ★★1/2
12. I Know This Much Is True by Wally Lamb ★★★★★
11. The Theatre of the Absurd by Martin Esslin ★★★1/2
10. The Man Who Would Be King and Other Stories by Rudyard Kipling ★★

January
9. Eva Luna by Isabel Allende ★★★★
8. Mein Kampf by Adolf Hitler ★★★
7. Pinter in Play by Susan Hollis Merritt ★★★
6. Smilla's Sense of Snow by Peter Høeg ★★★1/2
5. Book Lust by Nancy Pearl ★★★★
4. Story of the Eye by Georges Bataille ★★★
3. The Buddha of Suburbia by Hanif Kureishi ★★★1/2
2. The Tales of Beedle the Bard by J.K. Rowling ★★★★
1. The Secret History by Donna Tartt ★★★★

2richardderus
Set 15, 2009, 11:27 am

No sense trying to run, Eliza, I am everywhere....

3flissp
Set 15, 2009, 11:29 am

Fantastic review of My Name Is Asher Lev Eliza!

4kidzdoc
Set 15, 2009, 11:31 am

And it's the #1 Hot Review, too!

I'm still waiting for those photos...

5girlunderglass
Set 15, 2009, 11:39 am

2: First you write on invisible threads, now you're everywhere, what next you can walk on water??

3: thanks! and thanks for the thumbs-up whoever gave them to me :)

4: Soon. Very very very soon.

I've been reading a LOT of 4star books lately. I seem to be stuck on that rating, which is not a bad thing at all since it means I'm loving everything I've been reading lately. But it makes my ratings monotonous and I don't like that. I need a crappy book, damn it! For a balance :P

6richardderus
Set 15, 2009, 12:03 pm

A Candid Response To Post 5 Above:

*clouds parting, roiling seas calming, beautiful rays of sunlight streaming onto Eliza's thread*

Why, Yes.

7flissp
Set 15, 2009, 12:22 pm

snort!

...and Eliza, you'll be regretting that crappy book wish if you're not careful! ;)

8lunacat
Set 15, 2009, 12:40 pm

#5

I know the feeling. So I've stopped giving books stars. Made me feel much better about liking so many lol.

9spacepotatoes
Set 15, 2009, 2:53 pm

>5 girlunderglass: You know, I've had that same feeling start to creep up. The year started off slowly, in terms of good reads, but the summer has been (mostly) full of them and I'm really hoping that the streak doesn't end anytime soon!

Also waiting for the last book store reveal...you're really keeping us in suspense with this one! :)

10Carmenere
Editado: Set 15, 2009, 4:36 pm

>5 girlunderglass: It is incredible that so many of us feel this way. I too have read some very, very good books this year and I began to get the feeling that perhaps I was being too gullible and wouldn't recognize a bad read if it bit my nose off. So I continue to wait for the book that I just want to throw against the wall.

11elliepotten
Set 15, 2009, 6:45 pm

Found ya, starred ya... Hi Eliza! Here's a thought - instead of wishing for a rubbish book to come along, why not wish for a 5-STAR miracle?! Ground moving, choirs singing, that kind of book...

12girlunderglass
Set 15, 2009, 7:43 pm

11: I am always wishing for that kind of book but, alas, it's very rare! (I think about 10 books in my library have 5-star ratings and another 10 have 4-and-a-half ones! Four is not bad at all though!

8, 9, 10 etc: the thing is, part of the book-finding has been sheer luck but the rest is HUGELY due to LT and LT members. Being a new member of LT when I started the challenge,at first I didn't know whether to trust the recommendations or not. SO I read random stuff that sure, sounded good, but no one said it actually was. And many of the times it wasn't. Gradually though, after having read great reviews of a book five times in a row by different members I would give it a try - and, surprise, surprise, it was really good! It has made such a difference in my reading! This was the case with Alias Grace for example, which I'd seen praised many times on LT (I remember Cait86's review in particular, but others as well) and decided to give it a go. Finished it yesterday and - no s**t - it was great.

13Whisper1
Set 15, 2009, 7:45 pm

got you starred again!

14Cait86
Set 15, 2009, 9:48 pm

Hello!! Posting so as not to lose you - and waiting for that Alias Grace review :) I'm glad you enjoyed it!

15tymfos
Set 15, 2009, 11:55 pm

Another star for you!

16flissp
Set 16, 2009, 6:10 am

Glad you enjoyed Alias Grace - it's easily my favourite Atwood!

17Carmenere
Set 16, 2009, 6:47 am

I have two Atwoods lined up. Currently reading The Handmaid's Tale and after that The Blind Assassin for my alphabet challenge. I did not know about Alias Grace till I read your thread. I'll keep an eye out for it.

18richardderus
Set 16, 2009, 8:30 am

Eliza, dear...pictures? Bookstore? Where?

19avatiakh
Editado: Set 16, 2009, 8:50 am

Eliza, last year I was lucky enough to be in Barcelona on April 23 when they have a special day - La Diada de Sant Jordi, a type of Valentines Day that celebrates books and flowers. It was amazing, almost every square in the city was full of trestle tables of books, used books alongside new ones and millions of people out buying books. Only problem was they were almost all in Spanish/Catalan. The entire stretch of Las Ramblas from the big square to almost the waterfront was full of people and books. Also writers out in force for book signings.The theory is that men are given books and women receive flowers.
Here's a link to my photo album, they start at about number 47. http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=33947&id=653623494&l=c7f93f8f58
And here is a link that tells the story behind the day - http://www.spanishpropertyworld.com/la_diada_de_sant_jordi_lovers_day_barcelona_...
edit: typo change month to April!!

20girlunderglass
Editado: Set 16, 2009, 12:03 pm

Ahem, with emotion stuck in my throat I give you - as promised - The Bookshop of My Dreams, The Place I Want to Be Buried At, etc.

Massolit Books & Cafe
Krakow, Poland







Some bookshops have the selections, other have the prices, others have the friendly & interesting shop-owners, others have the great coffee: this has it all. But above all, the one thing this place has is Atmosphere. Newspapers & magazines that you can peruse at your heart's content, big rooms full of beautiful shelves, wooden chairs and tables, lovely little decorations you discover all over the place, old suitcases filled with books, vintage-y wallpaper, dusty mirrors and dim lamps. There's also bagels, carrot cakes and lemon tarts, tea, muffins and organic juices. Coffee you can drink while sitting in what you know would have been your favourite spot to sit in if you were lucky enough to live here, in beautiful Krakow. And, just to enhance the atmosphere, there's CocoRosie playing softly from the speakers. What more can one ask for?

Bought:
Kiss of the Spider Woman by Manuel Puig, Story of O by Pauline Reage, The Thirty Nine Steps by John Buchan.

I didn't get many books here, not because the selection and prices weren't great but because I was too busy sipping my tea, humming along and all the while grinning happily at no one in particular.

P.S. For those curious to know what being inside the bookshop sounded like, here's a song for your listening pleasure. (Right click on the link and "save as" to save it on your computer.)
http://www.michaelbeijer.com/image/sb/01%20-%20terrible%20angels.mp3


21richardderus
Set 16, 2009, 12:06 pm

Good heavens! It's the twin of my late, lamented Odyssey Books here! Oh, it still exists. I now feel pulled to visit Poland, which is brand new since I've never been interested in the place before now.

22Rebeki
Set 16, 2009, 12:09 pm

It is indeed the shop I was thinking of! It's just beautiful, isn't it? I think they were playing Edith Piaf when I was there, sitting with my strong coffee and cake and perusing my new purchases, and it was raining outside, which made it especially cosy.

Your photos are great and an even better advert than the ones on the website, I think!

23flissp
Set 16, 2009, 12:42 pm

Oooooooooooooooooooh....

24kidzdoc
Set 16, 2009, 12:45 pm

I love it!

25flissp
Set 16, 2009, 1:10 pm

I just have to keep on looking...

26bonniebooks
Set 16, 2009, 1:37 pm

J-E-A-L-O-U-S! But happy to be prowling via your pictures,

27spacepotatoes
Editado: Set 16, 2009, 2:08 pm

That place looks absolutely perfect! Well worth the wait :)

My husband and I actually watched the movie version of Kiss of the Spiderwoman a few weekends ago, not really knowing anything about it going in, and about 15 or 20 minutes into it, I commented to that this would make a great book and that I'd probably like it but that I wasn't so sure about the movie. The hubby then pointed out that it's based on a novel...shows how much I know! Anyway, I'd love to read your review of it whenever you get around to reading it, the movie made me really curious!

28avatiakh
Set 16, 2009, 7:56 pm

Looks like a great bookshop, I'd love to be able to browse then relax with a coffee at a used bookshop, but none of them do that here. Sigh

29rainpebble
Editado: Set 17, 2009, 12:27 am

A book browser's heaven.
Thank you.

Also just wanted to say that my favorite Chaim Potok books were The Chosen and The Promise.

30Carmenere
Set 17, 2009, 7:40 am

Thanks for the newest and bestest pics yet and included soundtrack. The proprieter must have to carefully extricate customers from the shop at closing time.

31Whisper1
Set 17, 2009, 8:28 am

Thanks for the wonderful photos!

32alcottacre
Set 17, 2009, 10:01 pm

I am jealous beyond reason. One of these days I will calm down, but not any time soon :)

33girlunderglass
Editado: Set 22, 2009, 9:26 am

I'm so glad you all liked the pictures! There are many reviews I'm behind with (I'm finishing exams on Thursday yayy) but I wanted to get this done first, since a lot of people are doing the Halloween group read:



54. Dracula by Bram Stoker (I'm between ★★★1/2 and ★★★★)
Tags: 1890s, Ireland, fiction, horror, Gothic

If we're going to thoroughly analyze this, we have to mention that, though it doesn't matter much in the end, yes, there are many flaws with Dracula. My personal pet peeve is the underdeveloped characters. First, there is no difference between the voices of the male characters - five different persons sound, feel, think, act as one and the same, to the degree that you have to keep checking whose narrative you are following. Stoker tries to differentiate his characters through superficial features such as nationality: Van Helsing speaks with what is supposedly a Dutch accent - though this is not consistently sustained throughout the whole book - and the American always speaks "laconically". That dreadful word was used so much in relation to Quincey it was getting ridiculous. "Count me in, Professor", said Quincey Morris laconically. "Me too", said Quincey Morris laconically. "What shall we do exactly?" asked Quincey Morris laconically. You can see the very beginning of a character sketch (Quincey: doesn't speak much, always ready for action; Van Helsing: the leader, has all the answers etc.) but then the author just stops, seemingly content with those very basic descriptions. He makes no effort to give depth to his characters and provide them with individual personalities. They were all "gentle, noble, true, kind, brave, manly" etc. Next, when it comes to Mina, the female protagonist, Stoker starts out well enough: he bestows on her a degree of intelligence, independence and resourcefulness unusual for the era he was living in and quite daring. (though, of course, he acknowledges this is not typical of the weaker sex: "her great brain which is trained like man's brain but is of sweet woman".) As the story progresses, however, she too ends up as a stereotype. Soon enough she assumes the typical role of the Angel - the embodiment of goodness, with no character flaws allowed in her. She represents for each and every one of the five men the Ideal Woman that they must protect at any cost: pure, honest, bashful, gentle, loving, vulnerable. The only character exempt from the boredom of being completely good or completely evil - and more interesting for that reason - was Renfield, who kept switching from barking mad, to extremely intelligent and "cured", to an evil man with a plan, to a mere victim of circumstances.

But let's forget about the characters for a second. The bad guys/good guys format is kept throughout the novel, and though it leaves no room for ambiguity, the truth is it enhances the action just fine. The greatest thing about Dracula is that, even knowing as you do what is going to happen - from countless movies and parodies - the sense of suspense is surprisingly maintained until the very end. Stoker never has to resort to gory details, which today's audience supposedly "needs", to make his story interesting. The format and writing style are great aids in this accomplishment, of course, but the author also had other ways of jolting his readers. Let's not forget that this is the Victorian era we're talking about, which means that the mere fact that women were presented as lustful, cruel and sexual (when under the influence of vampires) was shocking to many readers of the time. ("Lucy Westerna, but yet how changed. The sweetness was turned to adamantine, heartless cruelty, and the purity to voluptuous wantonness.") The writing flows very well and, excluding some less than fascinating moments in the middle of the book (letters between Lucy and Mina) the reader is kept happily in suspense for the whole duration of the story. Another plus: there's a contemporary feel to Dracula which could be attributed I think to the format it employs (it is written in diary and letter form) and the often mention and use of the technological advances of the time. (phonographs, telegrams) The protagonists keep mentioning how "in this scientific era" it is very hard to believe in supernatural things - a statement the modern reader can easily identify with. I don't think I'm exaggerating in saying this is the ultimate Gothic novel. At least not since Wuthering Heights have I read a book so exemplary of Gothic literature, with its typical blend of romance and horror elements. And while the repeated compliments, declarations of love and vows of loyalty between the six characters did get a bit tiring, the horror parts on the other hand were done to perfection. This might be because they weren't so much horrifying or scary as extremely suspenseful and exciting: the book felt a lot like a very atmospheric detective story.

The biggest compliment I think I can give the book is this: horror is possibly my least favourite genre, when it comes to both books and movies, closely followed by romance. Considering that this book combines my two least favourite genres, it's a testament to the novel's power and timelessness that I enjoyed it as I did.

34Whisper1
Set 22, 2009, 9:11 am

Great comments on Dracula...now I must read it. I'm embarrassed to say that I never have!

35drneutron
Set 22, 2009, 9:23 am

Great review!

36bonniebooks
Set 22, 2009, 9:42 am

I wish I hadn't read beyond the first couple of sentences of your review, then I wouldn't be so tempted to read Dracula again. Great review!

37Carmenere
Set 22, 2009, 9:45 am

What a tremendous review, Eliza. I really need to read Dracula at some point in time along with Frankenstein.

38richardderus
Set 22, 2009, 11:08 am

Eliza you sweet little apple of the fairer sex, how perfectly adorable your litte review-ette was, and how hard you must have worked to write it! But angel flower, girls must be careful...be sure to use creams and emollients to help your precious alabaster brow not to get all uggie-wrinkie!

Smooches,
Bram

39MusicMom41
Editado: Set 22, 2009, 11:53 am

Wonderful review, Eliza! Thumbs Up! I, too, was caught by surprise by how much I enjoyed a book that was horror/romance--my two least favorite genres. You also solved the mystery of why a couple of years away from my first read of the book Renfield is the character I remember most vividly. My son bought me the annotated version for Christmas last year so I do intend to read it again soon--if not this October (lack of time) then in October 2010.

edited for spelling

40lunacat
Set 22, 2009, 12:00 pm

*Sigh* I'm so jealous of your review writing ability.

41kiwidoc
Set 22, 2009, 12:59 pm

Eliza - I am super impressed with your take on Dracula, which I also recently read but without the superb critiquing facility. I really appreciate your comments.

The bookshop looks and sounds absolutely divine - I think it is worth a trip to Krakow just for that. You are so right about the important elements to a bookshop - how could you ever get that atmosphere in a world of e-books and internet shopping?

42flissp
Set 22, 2009, 1:20 pm

I haven't read Dracula since I was 17ish - think I may have to revisit it following your review!

43London_StJ
Set 22, 2009, 3:24 pm

Very thoughtful review; I especially enjoyed your thoughts on Stoker's narrative styles in terms of character development. I disagree on a few points, but it's all academic on my part.

I can't wait to reread it!

44girlunderglass
Set 22, 2009, 3:43 pm

43: ooh you are evil. Don't just leave it at that after making a woman curious! Where do you disagree? This is what makes these forums fun, after all :)

38: My most revered Sir Bram, you are absolutely perfectly wondrously right. I shouldn't trouble my pretty little head with all this. I'll leave it to you of the brained sex to figure it all out.

My sincere apologies,
Humblest Eliza.

45elliepotten
Set 22, 2009, 4:23 pm

Brilliant review Eliza! I started reading Dracula a year or two ago and evidently wasn't as much in the mood for it as I thought, as I stopped reading half way through (not something I do often, on principle). I think perhaps now that I have a better sense of the style, a second reading might prove more enjoyable. Your review has proved the cherry on the cake of current LT Dracula-reading, so I'm bumping it back up Mount TBR!

46London_StJ
Editado: Set 22, 2009, 5:02 pm

>44 girlunderglass:: I'm always afraid of sounding snotty - which I'm sure I do - and I was going to wait until I got back to the novel myself. ;) But I agree - debate can be fun.

The one thing that stood out in your review is when you said, "The bad guys/good guys format is kept throughout the novel, and though it leaves no room for ambiguity..." I don't think it's necessarily as clear-cut as it seems, although I'm basing that argument/opinion on a reading directed by what will hopefully develop into my dissertation one day (which focuses on sexual and reproductive ambiguities and the purposeful ways in which Stoker distorts and reinvents vampire mythology to meet and/or negate certain Victorian principles).

I believe Dracula is fascinating for several reasons. First and foremost, because it has come to define the modern perception of vampires, and yet in terms of Victorian/Gothic fiction it comes to the party very late. Stoker builds on a tradition of gothic lit and the earlier introduction of the vampire figure (which is itself a bit new in 19th-century England), and so the ways in which he changes traditional motifs allows for a wide range of criticism and analysis.

47avatiakh
Set 23, 2009, 1:01 am

Great review Eliza, I enjoyed reading Dracula earlier this year and loved it all, though Mina's descent to stereotype was a disappointment but understandable for the time. I was rather impressed he gave her so much spunk to start with.
I quite like a little horror, though tend to stick with it at the YA level.

48Cauterize
Set 23, 2009, 1:25 am

Great review Eliza, I think it crystallizes for me some of the reasons why I disliked reading Dracula in middle school, but couldn't articulate them. With so many group members giving it and Frankenstein a go (which I didn't like as well), it makes me want to try them again, 12 years later.

49Whisper1
Set 23, 2009, 12:41 pm

Message #40...Lunacat...You are a wonderful writer as well! Please go to today's LT home page where you will see a hot review for your comments regarding Getting Near to Baby.

The 75 challenge group is hot today, as you join the ranks of

girlunderglass for her review of Dracula
cameling for the review of Widow for One Year
cyberry for her review of The Doll People
tututhefirst for her review of South of Broad

50girlunderglass
Set 23, 2009, 2:34 pm

46: I would love, no wait - love to read your dissertation :)

47: I was pretty impressed myself. YA is another genre I haven't read much of - though I can't say I don't like it as such, it just hasn't crossed my bookpath.

48: Frankenstein - I haven't gotten to that one yet...have to track it down someday.

49: woohoo for 75ers! :D
Thanks Linda for making us feel a little bit proud of this lovely crowd !

51blackdogbooks
Set 26, 2009, 11:06 am

GUG, I think you might enjoy Frankenstein more than you did Dracula. It is one of my favorite books.

52drneutron
Set 26, 2009, 7:28 pm

Heh. I just picked up an annotated version of Frankenstein today with some commentary by Joyce Carol Oates in it. It may get added to our October list, bdb.

53girlunderglass
Set 27, 2009, 9:06 am

will try and find myself a copy then!

54blackdogbooks
Editado: Set 27, 2009, 9:39 am

While I probably won't re-read it this year, you'd be hard pressed for a better addition!

55Whisper1
Set 27, 2009, 9:40 am

message #52
Jim...
Joyce Carol Oates commenting on Frankenstein -- sounds appropriate. Her books are dark and somewhat spooky.

I confess, I never read Frankenstein or Dracula. Perhaps I'll read them in October for Halloween.

56London_StJ
Set 27, 2009, 10:20 am

On the Frankenstein note - has anyone read A Monster's Notes? A friend brought it to my attention, but he hadn't actually read it.

57bonniebooks
Set 27, 2009, 3:59 pm

J.C. Oates's books are real life scary!

58drneutron
Set 27, 2009, 4:00 pm

Yeah, Zombie was astonishingly disturbing!

59kiwidoc
Editado: Set 27, 2009, 8:05 pm

There is also this new crazy for Zombie fiction - the latest being the Jane Austen Zombie book which I cannot bring myself to read. Anyone read it?

I have read a couple of JC Oates books, and she just doesn't do anything for me - which is a bit disturbing considering she is loved by very erudite readers!

60bonniebooks
Set 27, 2009, 9:27 pm

I just devoured Sharp Teeth today. So good!

61MusicMom41
Set 27, 2009, 10:23 pm

#59 kiwidoc

I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who found two J.C. Oates books enough of a sample that I could happily move on to other authors! I could recognize the merits of of her novels but couldn't conceive of a reason why I should torture myself to read any more of them. What I found disturbing were her books! :-)

Okay--my shield is up--you can fling stones now! :-D

62drneutron
Set 28, 2009, 9:27 am

I just finished Pride and Prejudice and Zombies a couple of weeks ago. It's neither a serious zombie book nor classic literature. It *is* an entertaining parody of both. I liked it enough to pick up a 20%-off copy of Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters this weekend at the Baltimore Book Festival.

And as for JC Oates, I respect her ability to completely involve her readers in the story, but she takes us places I don't want to go...

63flissp
Set 28, 2009, 1:09 pm

OK, seems like I'm going to have to give Frankenstein another go, from all these comments...

64girlunderglass
Set 28, 2009, 1:54 pm

just finished my Poe for the Halloween group read as well and have picked up an unrelated to the challenge book (The Master and Margarita) while the group reads The Wood Wife - which I don't own.

I'm definitely going to try and buy Frankenstein though - it's just one of those classics. Even if you don't plan to read it now, chances are you're gonna hear it mentioned so many times that one day you're going to go for it.

Also, I have pending reviews for:
The Dawn of the Dumb: Dispatches from the Idiotic Frontline by C. Brooker
Alias Grace by M. Atwood
1700: Scenes From London Life by M. Waller
♠ The most beautiful Poems by V. Alecsandri

65MusicMom41
Set 28, 2009, 9:40 pm

# 62 drneutron

"And as for JC Oates, I respect her ability to completely involve her readers in the story, but she takes us places I don't want to go..."

That is so well put, Jim. I wish I had said it! :-)

#63 flissp

On the other hand, I will highly recommend Frankenstein! The first time I read it I was sure I was going to hate it--forget the movies, the book is really good 19th century gothic.

#64 gug

Elize, I'll be looking for your review of the Master and Margarita. I remember reading quite a bit about it last year and I was considering reading it but I never got around to finding it. In November I will be ready to look for some good reads because my challenges will be done! Free choice! What a concept! :-)

66avatiakh
Set 29, 2009, 6:21 am

I just read The Master and Margarita a month or so ago, it's very good. Just make sure that you get a good translation of it - there's a quite a bit of online discussion about the translators. Earlier versions were more censored as well.

67MusicMom41
Set 29, 2009, 1:25 pm

#66 avatiakh

Which translation do you recommend.

My local library doesn't have the book but the I can get it from the ValleyCat system. They have two different translators--but I don't know if I can request the one I would want.

The two translators available from the library are Mirra Ginsberg and Michael Glenny.

68avatiakh
Set 29, 2009, 4:32 pm

#67 - I read the Penguin translation by Pevear, but didn't know about all the translation issues until after I finished the book and was reading some online discussion of the book. Luckily I got a recommended one but my cheaper edition didn't have the notes and intro. The two translations you mention are earlier ones, one is from the censored version.
Here is a link that briefly discusses the issue. http://cr.middlebury.edu/public/russian/bulgakov/public_html//Engeditions.html

69MusicMom41
Set 29, 2009, 5:23 pm

#67 avatiakh

Thanks for the link. I guess I'd better "bite the bullet" and plan to buy a good translation!

70suslyn
Out 4, 2009, 6:59 pm

>29 rainpebble: The Chosen by Potok is one of my favorite stories too, but I'm pretty partial to the movie version (Robbie Benson). Dunno which I prefer really I've read it and seen it a number of times.

Great pics!! So sorry I've been behind but I'm hoping to stay current through year-end :)

71girlunderglass
Out 5, 2009, 10:35 am



50. Dawn of the Dumb by Charlie Brooker
Tags: 2000s, non-fiction, journalism, satire, U.K.
Rating: ★★★★

Oh, Charlie, Charlie, Charlie. If there was a reality show featuring you doing nothing but hurl insults at a wall all day long, I would watch it. I would watch it first of all because, judging from this book, chances are I'm gonna agree with those insults. The stupid wall deserves it. But also because again, judging from this book, you have 3859478563490 words stored in an area of your brain designed specifically for the purpose of Innovative Dissing. Us mortals don't have this area, or if we do, it's embarrassingly underdeveloped. I mean why can you take a subject as boring as human hair and make it funny? ("What's hair's beef, anyway? What's it trying to prove? It sprouts with enthusiastic urgency, sometimes in the most unexpected places, and then merely hangs around getting in the way. Think your job's pointless? At least you don't dangle off a scalp for a living.") How is this fair for the rest of us, who sometimes take some of the funniest, most hilarious s**t ever - like Aronofski's The Fountain, for example - and all we can think to say about it is "that movie was, like, SO bad."? Life is obnoxiously unfair.

A caveat or two: this book is not a Book in the real, novelish, plot-and-characters sort of way. It's a collection of newspaper articles and, as such, needs to be savoured in small doses for full effect. Also, if you're one of those people that get offended at jokes about God, celebrities, politicians, and life in general, don't read it. If you think Big Brother's too common and "lowbrow" a topic, don't read it. If you do not find "I hate children" T-shirts in the least humorous, don't read it (Some people have tagged this book as "misanthropic" - which is baffling, because a) surely, if there is one group of people you can call annoying without offending anyone that group is Children: "dot-eyed shouting machines hell-bent on sabotaging whatever scraps of tranquility remain in this pitiful world" and b) have you read his piece about Americans? He seems to adore them.). Last test: what is your reaction to the mention of Dr. Screw and sonic dildos? If you are - possibility no.1 - insulted and a little bit disgusted: not for you. If you are - possibility no. 2 - intrigued and a little bit amused: then GO GET YOUR HANDS ON THE DAMNED BOOK STRAIGHT AWAY!

72spacepotatoes
Out 5, 2009, 10:53 am

>71 girlunderglass: Love it! I need to find this book. Another great review, Eliza!

73bonniebooks
Out 5, 2009, 10:55 am

Your review is hilarious. I just thumbed it.

74girlunderglass
Out 5, 2009, 6:04 pm

72, 73: thanks!

75kiwidoc
Out 7, 2009, 5:55 am

GUG - you are one over the top talented reviewing gal there. Another thumb.

76Whisper1
Out 7, 2009, 5:59 am

I've added my thumbs up to your review and note that there are eight before me.

Congratulations on another great review.

77kiwidoc
Out 7, 2009, 5:59 am

Is Charlie a columnist for the Guardian, GUG. Other Guardian columnists who have published their witticisms are Ben Goldacre (Science) and John Crace (literary cynic).

78girlunderglass
Out 7, 2009, 8:36 am

Yes, he is a columnist for the Guardian and you can read all his stuff for free online (note: most of it is rants about TV shows and movies - called "Charlie Brooker's Screen Burn - but there are a lot of musings on non-related topics as well).

http://www.guardian.co.uk/profile/charliebrooker

Thanks for the thumbs up kiwi&whisper!

Oh, and "literary cynic" - I'd like that as a profession, please!

79kiwidoc
Editado: Out 7, 2009, 10:31 am

Apply GUG!! You have the talent.

Just read the article screen burn through your link - he is a very funny guy.

80Carmenere
Out 8, 2009, 1:26 pm

Nice try, Eliza! I just spent 30 minutes reading Charlie Brooker's column, then linked to the review for Flashforward, linked to the discovery of bluestonehenge and it wasn't until I linked to Stonehenge itself that those monolith stones spoke to me. They asked, could this be a diversion from the book you should be currently reading? Ah, ha! Muttering got to keep focused, got to keep focused as I shake my head and walk over to my book. Good link tho - now added to favorites.

81girlunderglass
Editado: Out 9, 2009, 10:23 am

I keep saying to myself that one day I'll wake up feeling like writing full reviews for these books - but that's not gonna happen so I'll just give you the gist of it and move on to my more recent reads next time:



51. 1700: Scenes from London Life by Maureen Waller
Tags: history, non-fiction, U.K., 2000s
Rating: ★★★★

One of those books that makes you wish you majored in history. Interesting, easy to read, full of fascinating trivia. Contains the sort of information that you later find yourself quoting to your friends with the preface "did you know that...?" Its only fault: too many details.



53. Alias Grace by Margaret Atwood
Tags: Canada, historical fiction, 1990s
Rating: ★★★★

You pick it up, you start reading, you can't put it down, you're done with it some hours later. Not sure I learned anything from it but it was a damn gripping read. Atwood has done her research well - not for one moment do you doubt the historical accuracy of the events. (Though you probably should, but the book is just too fast-paced for that!) Good characters, too.



55. How to Read and Why by Harold Bloom
Tags: books about books, non-fiction, literary theory, U.S.A., 2000s
Rating: ★★★

Nothing earthshaking here, but enjoyable enough.



56. Cele Mai Frumoase Poezii (The Most Beautiful Poems of) Vasile Alecsandri
Tags: poetry, Romania, 1850s
Rating: ★★★1/2

Some of the poems were merely okay, but some of them were amazing. None of those assessments is probably objective. The first has to do with the fact that I dislike romantic poetry, so the ones that had too much of the nasty R in them did not appeal to me. The second assessment is based on sheer nostalgia: there were poems in this collection that I had studied during elementary school in Romania when I was about, oh, 7-8, so they created the warm, sweet, melancholy feeling of something long-forgotten that I knew I'd heard before. Those poems talked of linden trees and cuckoos, golden fields and snowed forests, deer and foxes, willows and dandelions, the changing of seasons, rivers I knew by name and rivers I'd swam in, places I'd seen and places that sounded like places I'd seen - in short, all the things that I remember from my childhood. How could I not love them?



57. Complete Tales and Poems by Edgar Allan Poe
Tags: horror, mystery & crime, short stories, poetry, U.S.A.
Rating: ★★★1/2

Like most books that brag of collecting all the works of a particular author, this one is uneven in quality. But because this is Poe we're talking about, the works range from likable enough to amazing. They are never what you'd call "bad".

82kiwidoc
Out 9, 2009, 10:18 am

Very eclectic mix, Eliza.

I like the look of the history book - sounds fun. Perhaps a big mistake with non-fiction writers, is that they don't know when to leave out detail. Can make things a slog.

I got put off reading Harold Bloom a bit when people were discussing what a grump he was. I have that book but only dip in and out of it.

And as you are Romanian - just to mention the Nobel Prize winner, Herta Mueller. Have you read her? I understand she fled the government in the 1970s.

83girlunderglass
Out 9, 2009, 10:21 am

82: I've never even heard of her - now I'm embarrassed!

84alcottacre
Out 10, 2009, 8:14 am

#71: I have got to try that one! Great review - and I am heading off to give it a thumbs up, too.

#81: Waller has another book on London out called London 1945. If she did as good a job on it as she did on the 1700 book, you might want to give it a read as well. I hope to find a copy of it one of these centuries!

Alias Grace is already firmly planted on Planet TBR so I do not need to add that one, thank goodness for small miracles!

85fireeyedboy
Out 10, 2009, 9:10 am

Charlie Brooker! Yep, I too worship at the altar of Charlie. I wish there was some sort of Charlie Brooker generator, into which you could enter a subject - any subject - and out would come Charlie's opinion on it. E.g. 'egg' = 'Ah, eggs, overrated, weird-shaped filthy semi-spherical contraptions...' 'Stress inducing, chicken pooped spawn of Satan. Who needs 'em?' etc

AND he loves The Wire. Enough said, methinks.

86spacepotatoes
Editado: Out 10, 2009, 9:50 am

Hi Eliza, I just saw your question about Stephen King books in BJ's thread and I'm not the best person to answer that because I haven't read any of his books yet either (though I have seen a couple of movies, does that count? No? Darn!). But, I remember you being a big Lost fan and since my husband has converted me into one in the last few months (we're part way through season 5 on dvd right now), I wanted to mention one King book that has a Lost connection.

In the bonus features on the season 2 or 3 dvds, there's something called The Lost Book Club, where they talk about the books that get featured on Lost. One of the ones they mention is Stephen King's The Stand. Juliet's book club is reading it when we first meet them and apparently, there are parts of it that inspired the idea behind Lost. So, there's that. It's just really, really long.

Going by the movies, I think I'd recommend The Body. I absolutely loved Stand By Me, which was based on it.

87Carmenere
Editado: Out 10, 2009, 2:37 pm

Sorry to just pop in here, but I believe the book that Juliet's book club was debating was Carrie also by Stephen King.

I'm a nerd about it because I'm attempting to accumulate all of the works mentioned in the series.

Here's a link to a websight that may be helpful to you. http://lostpedia.wikia.com/wiki/Literary_works

There is also a group on LT that discusses LOST although it does not seem to be too well organized. Here ya go, just in case you're interested. http://www.librarything.com/groups/lost

88lunacat
Out 10, 2009, 2:48 pm

Agree completely on Alias Grace. It feels so real for a historical fiction.

89spacepotatoes
Out 10, 2009, 2:51 pm

>87 Carmenere: I think you might be right about Carrie, Carmenere! I'm not sure where The Stand came in, then, but I do remember seeing the writers talk about it on the dvd...hmmm. Now I'm tempted to go back and rewatch.

90Cait86
Out 10, 2009, 3:32 pm

Parts of Alias Grace are fact - there really was a Grace Marks, and she really was tried for the murders of Nancy and Kinnear. Also, when she signed the register at the jail (maybe it was the institution, I forget), she signed "Mary Whitney". You can read the paper through the Toronto archives website. Atwood invented Simon Jordan, and she comes to her own conclusions on Grace's guilt, but the murders themselves are part of Toronto's history.

I'm glad you enjoyed the book Eliza :) It is one of my favourites for this year.

91girlunderglass
Editado: Out 11, 2009, 4:54 pm

Thanks for the Stephen King recommendations - I think when the time for mr. King comes I will try Carrie (can't ignore a LOST-mentioned book!)

Speaking of you Losties out there, have you seen this?

http://www.lostuniversity.org/

I think they are possibly going to use it as a way to answer questions that they will not have time to address during the last season, to tie together ALL loose ends for the more fanatic ones who don't only care about the main big issues but the details too.

88, 90: I really did enjoy the book a lot, and intended to write a full review of it but I found it was one of those books I didn't have many things to say about it other than "it was really good". (I didn't want to resummarize the plot since there are many reviews doing that) I think it showcases the strengths of the historical fiction genre. Cait, I did know it was based on real events and appreciated the fact that Atwood explained at the end of the book which parts of the story were real and which parts she made up herself. Also, I liked how she said that she tried not to create the most wild or the most suspenseful story but the most believable one - what she thought was the logical and more probable way things had happened. I think her decision in this regard was what made the book so real.

92flissp
Out 12, 2009, 12:32 pm

#91 Carrie highly recommended by me too! My first Stephen King experience - taught me a lesson when I was at school - to not be less snobby about horror fiction ;)

93girlunderglass
Out 13, 2009, 5:50 pm



59. Endgame by Samuel Beckett ★★★

Absurdist, surreal, existentialist - all words thrown in together by literature students and aspiring actors trying to explain this play. Beckett hated all of them. Sure, use the terms as an attempt at genre classification if that's what you need to do. But to say the play is absurdist in the real Oxford dictionary definition of the word is, surely, missing the point. Beckett did not believe or try to prove in his plays that life is devoid of meaning and sense. The whole burden of Hamm and Clov's existence is that they have no idea whether this is all just a game, or whether there's a purpose for all of this, for every single word they utter. And maybe - just maybe - the more absurdly they behave, the more preposterous their interactions, maybe someone will finally take notice and start paying attention! Hamm and Clov might act like they have given up hope in a meaningful world, but in reality they never do. They are still there waiting for another Godot to interrupt this silly play and shout "Stop that nonsense! There is a real world outside of here! Waiting for you to do something!". This Godot again, of course, never arrives during the play. But this doesn't prove that he won't do so later. The reason, you see, that Endgame is so painful is that the characters are NOT resigned to life's absurdity. They are merely unsure of it. They doubt. They fear. They sometimes dare to hope. They question. They wonder. But they don't know. Hamm is never sure whether Clov's threats to abandon his master are serious. And Clov never knows whether he will have the courage to leave. And not only that, but at the end of the play, we have no idea whether Clov left or not. This could be just another ritual, part of their monotonous lives. If Clov had left, he would have found out whether life outside this room is worth living, or - what he fears - just another absurd world only more dangerous than this one. But he never does find out. The neverending perpetuation of its doubt, its fear of the unknown, its unanswered questions, its "if"s and "maybe"s is what makes the play powerful. And although Beckett was not fond of this interpretation either, it must be mentioned that post WWII ideology is rearing its ugly disconsolate head throughout Endgame again and again. Some even say that this was just another attempt by another playwright to find meaning in a world full of so much suffering. But that's not all there is to it, and that's probably why Beckett rejected this perspective.

I can't say that this is one of my favourite plays, on a level of sheer enjoyment. But I found it thought-provoking and strangely moving and I suppose that says something about its writer's intentions. Lastly, another matter worthy of mention is the death of a character in the play and the way this is portrayed. The interesting thing about this particular death is that it might be in fact the only happy event of the play, because it is the only event that provides some sort of resolution. You can see the remaining characters mourning, but you can also see that they are almost jealous of the dead one. The dead at least know now whether this whole Existence thing had some sort of higher meaning, or whether it was just an absurd game of chess, one silly move after another.

94kidzdoc
Out 13, 2009, 6:09 pm

Excellent review, Eliza! I'll add this to my wish list.

95kiwidoc
Editado: Out 13, 2009, 8:22 pm

Very interesting review Eliza. I read Mercier and Camier early this year and it was quite absurd. His experimentation with the written word was interesting - I really didn't know what to make of it. It's one of those things that is so unusual, that you have to wonder what he was driving at.

96flissp
Out 14, 2009, 5:19 am

Indeed, interesting review. There's a production on this on in the West End at the moment, sounds like I should maybe go to see it...

97girlunderglass
Out 14, 2009, 9:58 am

It's a weird play - one of the weirdest I have read and definitely not for everyone. A lot of people will say it's just nonsense. And, as you see from my rating I liked it though didn't love it. Mostly I found it very different so I'd say certainly interesting to see on stage if you have a chance to. It's very short, too.

I'm taking a course in Beckett's theatre this year so I'll be studying at least 6-7 of his plays. (I'll post reviews here, of course :P)

98jmaloney17
Out 14, 2009, 11:11 am

Beckett is one of my favorite playwrites. I last read this in college and I have to say that you understood the play a lot better than I did. I staged Beckett's one-act, "Play," for my directing class. Now that I think about it years later, I did not have a clue what it was about at the time. Waiting for Godot is by far my favorite of his plays. I have actually seen a production of it though, so that probably has a lot to do with it. I look forward to reading your reviews of his other plays. If you want to compare Beckett to other absurdists, you may want to look at Eugene Ionesco's Exit the King.

99blackdogbooks
Out 15, 2009, 9:26 am

When you're ready for King, let me know. We'll talk!

100jayde1599
Out 15, 2009, 8:03 pm

I am a recent King follower, and I am also a huge Lost fan trying to collect and read books related to the series ...

>87 Carmenere: & 89 Spacepotatoes, I also read/heard somewhere that aspects of LOST were influenced by King's works including The Stand and The Dark Tower series. I just read the first book in the Dark Tower series, Gunslinger and there were themes and character lines that reminded me of LOST. The Dark Tower series is completely different than King's other books, at least the first one is, and from what I have heard the following books are too.

Lostpedia and abc's Lost site both have links to the books that are mentioned or related to LOST

101girlunderglass
Out 17, 2009, 1:46 pm



58. The Master and Margarita by Mikhail Bulgakov ★★★1/2
Tags: 1960s, Russia, fiction, satire

There's nothing can say about this book that others haven't said before me. It's daring, it's witty, it's cynical, it's unique and it's never boring. It's a satire, it's a love story, it's an absurdist play, it's a Bildungsroman, it's a postmodern take on Faust, it's a protest against censorship. Or, as the book's Wiki page informs you, "part of its literary brilliance lies in the different levels on which it can be read, as hilarious slapstick, deep philosophical allegory, and biting socio-political satire critical of not just the Soviet system but also the superficiality and vanity of modern life in general" And because of this characteristic, "The Master and Margarita" is one of those books that you can't just digest in one read. At first I had mixed feelings about it - it was always intriguing, exciting, yes, but not lovable enough, I thought. Its light and talkative tone didn't seem, to me, to capture the agony and pain of people's lives in Stalinist Moscow. Moreover, with the possible exception of Behemoth, the vodka-drinking, chess-playing, pistol-toting cat, the book had no characters that one truly cares for. Or that's what I felt as I was reading it. You can see why, then, it surprises me that weeks after finishing the novel I find its colourful cast of characters - Woland, Azazello, Behemoth, the Master, Margarita, Ivan Ponyrov, and Pontius Pilate - frequently popping into my head and putting a smile on my face. It probably won't go down as one of my favourite books, but it is certainly memorable, unique, and unlike anything I've ever read.

102kiwidoc
Out 17, 2009, 2:16 pm

Sounds like one to read when you want a good slow think rather than a light fast plot-driven distraction. On my shelves, but not yet cracked open.

103girlunderglass
Out 17, 2009, 2:47 pm

actually it's not as heavy as it sounds. In fact, it's not heavy at all, it's a surprisingly fast read because of the writing style and tone (conversationalist). It's a fun book. The pistol-toting cat I mentioned in the review gives that away a bit. It's a story of the Devil and his assistants in Moscow - and what shady things they're doing :)

104avatiakh
Out 17, 2009, 4:42 pm

I had similar feelings about The Master and Margarita when I read it recently. I'm now pushing my way to the end of One Hundred Years of Solitude and am not caring for any of the characters at all.

105girlunderglass
Out 18, 2009, 7:31 am

104: Even though some people might not exactly love it, I think that everyone should read it. Plus it has an average rating of 4.5 on LT, which means that most people DO end up loving it. That bodes well for future readers!

On another note, I just ordered from The Book Depository and got:

Give It Up: And Other Short Stories a graphic novel illustrated by Peter Kuper with Franz Kafka's short stories
Flowers for Algernon sci-fi by Daniel Keyes
The View From Castle Rock by Alice Munro (yay! I will now have another Munro for whenever the mood strikes)
Bring the Jubilee classic alternate history by Ward Moore
Ghost World by Daniel Clowes - graphic novel
Why Not Catch-21?: The Stories Behind the Titles by Gary Dexter (non-fiction)
Howl's Moving Castle an early Christmas present for my best friend because I'll be away for Christmas
The Wednesday Wars - praised to the sky by Whisper and other LTers so I couldn't resist :)

106Whisper1
Out 18, 2009, 7:46 am

Eliza

I'm anxious to learn your thoughts/feelings about The Wednesday Wars. Why Not Catch-21? sounds great!

So many people mention The Book Depository. I'm leaving your thread now to do a google search!

107girlunderglass
Out 18, 2009, 5:11 pm

Why Not Catch-21? was an impulse buy. I had added it to my wishlist a while ago because the title aroused my interest and bought it now for the same reason. I admit I know nothing about it so I really hope it doesn't disappoint.

I also just saw that The B-Depository are sending their books through Royal Mail and know that they (RM) are having big strikes in England so I'm kind of frightened it will take forever for my order to get to me. Anyone in England that knows more about the situation or that has received anything through Royal Mail lately? Please let me know if there are huge delays! Thanks.

108brenzi
Out 18, 2009, 7:16 pm

Hi Eliza,
Thanks for welcoming me to the 75 book challenge. I've got you starred now. You've got some great books here.

109girlunderglass
Out 19, 2009, 5:09 am

thanks Brenzi - got you starred as well :)

110flissp
Out 19, 2009, 6:45 am

#107 Hi Eliza. The strikes are set for Thursday and Friday (some info here), so hopefully, if your books are sent before then, you'll be OK. That said, they may be delayed a bit, but it shouldn't be too much (I've barely noticed the strikes anyway).

We read the short story version of Flowers for Algernon at school and I absolutely loved it, I've always wondered whether the fully fleshed out book version would have the same impact (yet another one that's been on my TBR pile for years. I hope you enjoy it!

(note to self, really must restart The Master and Margarita again one of these days...)

111spacepotatoes
Out 19, 2009, 9:40 am

If you like Alice Munro already, you'll love The View From Castle Rock. Munro's stories of her own coming-of-age are great and you really get a feel for where many of her stories, particularly the earlier ones came from. She put quite a bit of her own life into her stories, which I never realized until reading Castle Rock.

Also, that Lost University link you posted? Awesome :)

112girlunderglass
Out 19, 2009, 5:43 pm

just quickly passing by to share that I've just become a member of the Folio society: the addiction begins! *I pity my wallet*

113flissp
Out 20, 2009, 5:30 am

ooooh....

114girlunderglass
Out 20, 2009, 6:19 pm

110: thanks for the info on Royal Mail...and I had no idea Flowers for Algernon had a short story version! I shall look for it after I read the book.

111: the fact that it's partly true and based on her own family history makes it even more interesting - I'm pretty sure I will enjoy it :) Glad you had a good time exploring the Lost University site!

I'm currently reading Don DeLillo's Libra for an amazing amazing course I took this year. It's called "Political and cultural clashes in 1960s America" and it's SO interesting, particularly since I've never had a chance to study any American history at all. It's also very comforting to focus on a particular period rather than those highschool history books that try to teach you everything from the middle ages onwards and in the end you remember nothing. We're going to read and study Libra , The Book of Daniel , The Things They Carried and The Crying of Lot 49. I'm very excited!

115kiwidoc
Out 20, 2009, 6:26 pm

Flowers for Algernon is such a tear-jerker. It really does make you think hard about the plight of the disabled in our society.

116bonniebooks
Out 20, 2009, 9:52 pm

It looks like a good array of books to give you an overview of the politics of the sixties. I'm going to be reading The Things They Carried over the next couple of weeks too. Oh how different my life might have been if my new husband's number had been called the year he finished school (1970-1971). They wanted him to be a pilot, but fortunately they didn't get to his number by the end of the year. :-(

117FlossieT
Out 22, 2009, 6:11 pm

>71 girlunderglass: (see, that shows how badly behind I am on LT...) I LOVE CHARLIE BROOKER. 3 or so Christmases ago, his book Screen Burn was literally the only thing on my Christmas list (didn't care what else I got as long as I had that). And he has a new one out this Christmas. Happy dance.

Also rather annoyed to see back in >86 spacepotatoes:/87 that I actually missed what sounds like an interesting DVD extra, having literally this evening returned the box set of Season 3 of Lost to its owner, with the 'Book Club' feature unwatched. Doh.

If you can't wait for the postal strikes for Why not Catch-21?, Gary Dexter's bloghas an awful lot of stuff on it... not sure what the overlap with the book is. Needless to say I haven't got around to reading it even though the book itself is on my wishlist...

118VisibleGhost
Out 22, 2009, 9:31 pm

112- Uh-oh. Of the buying of specialty books there is no end. My latest splurge.

http://www.subterraneanpress.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Product_C...

119alcottacre
Out 24, 2009, 4:13 am

#118: Resistance is futile (especially regarding book buying!)

120deebee1
Out 28, 2009, 10:35 am

>101 girlunderglass:, felt same way about The Master and Margarita when i read it last year. however, i've just finished Bulgakov's The Heart of a Dog and must say, i enjoyed it immensely. it had me in stitches many times throughout. Shakir (the dog) is even more memorable than Behemoth!

121girlunderglass
Editado: Nov 23, 2009, 10:43 am

oh wow...haven't been around for so long. I've been reading but haven't felt like writing reviews in a very long time. I am a liiiiitle bit behind my challenge so I'm trying hard to catch up in this last month-and-a-half before January. Currently at 66 books, so 9 more to go. I have to admit I'm reading some shorter books in order to make it :)

Some thoughts on 3 books I haven't said anything about (that I read in October):



60. The Island of Dr. Moreau by H.G. Wells
Tags: 1890s, sci-fi, fiction, U.K.
Rating: ★★★1/2

Enjoyed this one much more than War of the Worlds , which I also read this year. You can see that H.G. Wells's strength is his ideas. That is apparent in both of these books. But where WOTW was content on exposing ideas and commenting on the human race while dragging on and on and failing to get you interested in the particular characters or their fate, The Island of Dr Moreau was also suspenseful, exciting, nerve-racking, thought-provoking, unputdownable. The scientific aspects of the book also made for some very interesting reading - albeit with a healthy dose of skepticism from the modern reader. Recommended.



61. The Legend of Sleepy Hollow by Washington Irving
Tags: 1820s, horror, folklore, fiction, U.S.A.
Rating: ★★★

Initially I was going to describe this as a typical horror folktale: the myth of a scary headless horseman in a small American town has been done many times, after all in both literature and film. However, there are two things that set this story apart, as far as I'm concerned. First, the playfulness and wit of Irving's language which elicits many smiles from the reader. And secondly, the unusual (within the genre), humorous, realistic ending which turns the whole story around and gives the tale a modern twist.



62. Libra by Don DeLillo
Tags: fiction, historical fiction, 1980s, U.S.A.
Rating: ★★★★

I could write so much about this book. A wonderful creation once you get accustomed to DeLillo's prose and start making sense of the three interconnected stories (not all of which occur during the same time period), this novel deals with the JFK assassination. It is 1) a part-real, part-fictional biography of Lee Harvey Oswald, JFK's murderer 2) a fictional yet possibly real conspiracy concerning the JFK murder by various characters (some real, some not) and 3) a completely fictional description of Nicholas Branch's attempt to put together a book about the assassination - an attempt which mirrors the writer's struggle with writing the book and the reader's struggle to decipher it. I want to write a proper review of this when I get a chance to. I want to mention though that the joy of reading this book is not limited to the time it takes to actually read it but extends far beyond that. One of the best things was looking up the real characters that were part of the novel on Wikipedia and discovering how many of the facts presented in the book are true, how many of the characters REAL PEOPLE, who talked and loved and breathed and lived and smiled and did. After finishing the book I spent hours more just reading online about it and the people that inhabit its pages.

Lee Harvey Oswald:


Marina Oswald:


Guy Banister:


David Ferrie:


George de Mohrenschildt:


Ruth Paine:


...and many more. Though many parts of the book may be merely DeLillo's invention, there is no denying that this book is a slice of history.

122Carmenere
Nov 23, 2009, 1:03 pm

Hey GUG, it is good to see you back! I think your past three reads need to be on my bookshelf so on to the wish list they go. Good luck reaching 75, I do believe you'll get there.

123brenzi
Nov 23, 2009, 1:34 pm

Well Eliza I thought maybe I did something to put you off. You no sooner welcomed me to the 75 Book Challenge group and then you disappeared. Glad to see you're back now. I never knew what Libra was about but you've got me interested. Onto the pile it goes.

124blackdogbooks
Nov 23, 2009, 7:28 pm

Glad you liked Dr. Moreau!!! Good to see you back. I didn't finish my Halloween books and had to rush through a bunch of ER books to write reviews!! Oh well, maybe I'll finish out the year with those and some other comfort reads. I've had a big classics year.

125London_StJ
Nov 23, 2009, 9:20 pm

I started Dr. Moreau years ago and never got around to finishing it. I think it may be time to revisit it...

126kiwidoc
Nov 23, 2009, 9:22 pm

Eliza - good to see you here again. The Libra book looks fascinating - and it looks like Oswald has had a few fists to the face in that mug shot. Your comments are always so interesting. Thanks.

127alcottacre
Nov 24, 2009, 3:49 am

Welcome back, Eliza!

I am adding Libra to the ever-expanding BlackHole. Thanks for the recommendation.

128flissp
Nov 24, 2009, 5:21 am

Hmmm. The Island of Dr Moreau is one of his that I haven't read - I shall add it to the list...

129kidzdoc
Nov 24, 2009, 6:20 am

Good to see you back with us, Eliza. I'm also adding Libra to my wish list.

130Whisper1
Nov 24, 2009, 6:40 am

Hi Eliza

You were missed! It is good to see posts from you. Last month I started The Island of Dr. Moreau but didn't finish it before it had to go back to the library. I hope to obtain it again before 2009 ends.

I'm adding Libra to my list. Thanks for your great description!

131girlunderglass
Editado: Nov 24, 2009, 12:38 pm

thanks so much everyone for dropping by - it really means a lot to come back after a while and still find you all here!

Brenzi, you didn't scare me away!! :)
And, yeah, Oswald looks like he's had a few punches in the face to say the least - I did also notice the defiant look on his face. After reading the book I immediately looked to find a picture of him and this was the first I found: he looked exactly as I expected him to after reading DeLillo's descriptions.

132Whisper1
Nov 24, 2009, 7:07 pm

I stopped at the library on my way home from work this evening and obtained a copy of Libra. I hope to start it this week!

133girlunderglass
Nov 24, 2009, 7:15 pm

great, hope you enjoy it - it will be nice for me to talk about it with someone who's read it too!

134tymfos
Nov 25, 2009, 9:49 pm

I just added Libra to The Ever-Expanding List . . . and they actually have it at the county library.

Happy Thanksgiving!

135ChocolateMuse
Nov 26, 2009, 6:10 pm

Libra sounds great, and very different to the kind of thing I usually read. I'll keep an eye out for it. I loved The legend of Sleepy Hollow. I listened to an audio podcast of it on The Classic Tales http://www.theclassictales.com/. It was read very well.

136arubabookwoman
Nov 27, 2009, 11:32 pm

Welcome back Eliza.

I read Libra several years ago, and really loved it. I no longer have a good grasp of the book, though, so it would be useless for me to try to discuss the book with you. :) I will look forward to reading a longer review if you do one.

I'd also recommend DeLillo's Underworld, which I also liked very much. I've read a few of his other books (White Noise and Falling Man), but wasn't as impressed with them. He is an important author.

137spacepotatoes
Nov 28, 2009, 9:39 am

Just dropping by to say welcome back!

138girlunderglass
Nov 28, 2009, 8:07 pm

My boyfriend is "testing" Underworld for me first so I'm waiting to see if he likes it before I get to it. I really want to read more DeLillo - he has a unique authorial voice and a great ability to interweave stories to create a whole History.

Thanks for the welcome back, sp!

139girlunderglass
Nov 29, 2009, 7:09 pm



64. A Wrinkle in Time by Madeleine L'Engle
Tags: 1960s, fiction, YA, sci-fi, U.S.A.
Rating: ★★★★

Okay pretty much everyone I know on LT has mentioned this book in some conversation or other so I just had to read it. I loved it, of course - first of all because it was an adorable little book but also for another reason. This book has made me realize something very specific about my book/film tastes. And the realization is this: I LOVE, am crazy about, cannot resist, (and other such exclamations!): whiz kids. Whether its literature or movies, I see now that some of my very favourite characters are child prodigies. There's the Glass family of course - my favourite fictional family - and all Salinger's other smart little boys and girls, like Esme or Teddy or Phoebe (Haulden Caulfield's sister). Then there's Klaus Baudelaire, from the Series of Unfortunate events who is, naturally, the most intelligent one of the kids, and the most avid reader to boot. His sister Violet is also an incredibly skilled inventor for her age, so let's include her as well. Then there's Matilda (and how can you not love her?), everyone's favourite little bookworm - Hermione Granger - , and Velma from Scooby-Doo, that clever investigator without whom the rest of the Mystery Inc would probably just run around and shriek a lot. And if I start mentioning movies and shows the list of characters I love that fit this stereotype is getting bigger and bigger. Dexter from Dexter's Laboratory, Margot and Richie (when they're little) from the Royal Tenenbaums, and last but not least: Stanley Spector the whiz kid from Magnolia. Was does all this mean? I have no idea. All I know is, if you have any recommendations on books featuring child prodigies, BRING THEM ON!

140alcottacre
Nov 30, 2009, 1:19 am

I may be 47, but A Wrinkle in Time is still one of my all-time favorite books! I am glad to see that you enjoyed it, Eliza.

As far as whiz kids go, have you tried Artemis Fowl? He is decidedly for the younger set, but I thought it worth the mention.

141girlunderglass
Nov 30, 2009, 6:00 am

No, I've never read Artemis Fowl Stasia, thanks for the rec! I was going to try sth by the author anyway because he wrote this "sequel" to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy books so I wanted to check out his style and see how - if at all - it compares to Douglas Adams's.

142alcottacre
Nov 30, 2009, 7:05 am

Since I have not yet read the Hitchhiker's Guide, I cannot tell you how Colfer's style is in relation to Douglas Adams.

I hope you get a chance to read Artemis Fowl. The books are fun.

143flissp
Editado: Nov 30, 2009, 7:25 am

oops - posted twice by mistake...

144flissp
Nov 30, 2009, 7:25 am

You know, I've also never read A Wrinkle in Time - I'd never even heard of it until I joined LT (where it is impossible to miss...)! It's clearly one that should be on the wishlist...

I just can't bring myself to read Eoin Colfer's Hitch-hikers book though - the very idea just seems so completely wrong - and I don't see how he can convincingly pick up the story from where it finished in the last book either...

Sounds like Artemis Fowl is worth a read though. Re writing styles, I've a feeling that I heard an interview somewhere that said they're completely different and that he hasn't tried to ape Douglas Adams. To be honest, I think that's a good thing - so many people try unsuccessfully to copy DNA's style...

145elliepotten
Nov 30, 2009, 11:21 am

You know, we had a copy of A Wrinkle in Time at the shop, and I saw my first rave review of it on LT... just after someone bought it. I'll have to keep my eye out for another one!

146girlunderglass
Editado: Nov 30, 2009, 7:11 pm



65. Crying of Lot 49 by Thomas Pynchon ★★★
Tags: 1960s, fiction, U.S.A.

My first acquaintance with Pynchon's work. Strange. Original. Complex. Dreamlike. Schizophrenic. Did I mention strange? This is supposed to be Pynchon's most approachable work and often hailed as a great example of postmodern fiction. I don't disagree. But at the same time I know this is not a book for everyone. It is not, I think, a book one falls head over heels with. It is a book that challenges what you thought you knew about how books are supposed to be. Their coherence, their development, their structure, their denouement. There's meaning and further implications hidden beneath every sentence. There's almost too much meaning for an 80-page long novella. As if the author was anxious not to waste (w.a.s.t.e.) a single word. Every word must be suffused with an extra layer of complications, another set of meanings and ideas. Another popular culture reference that requires you to be armed with a particular kind of knowledge in order to deal with it. Jay Gould. Fu-Manchu. Perry Mason. The Shadow. Nabokov. Remedios Varo. Jack Lemmon. The Beatles. "I want to kiss your feet.", sing the imaginary Paranoids of the book. Ha. Ha. Ha. Sometimes it feels like the book purports to maintain a certain level of intelligence and knowledge amongst its intended readers. Like Pynchon is trying to somehow "weed out" the most impatient of readers, the ones not determined enough to push through his obstacles and get to the meaning, the core of the book. And for this reason he keeps making things more difficult. A Jacobean play within the book. Surreal situations. LSD. Paranoia. A conspiracy that may or may not exist. Song lyrics. An unreliable narrator. An even more unreliable shrink who's supposed to help the narrator. (Dr Hilarius, a psychopath of a shrink, if there ever was one. ) Take that, public. See if you can deal with that. And that. And that. Can you? Like the Escher paintings mentioned in the book, you either take it all in together, or not at all. It either makes sense, or it doesn't.

(kind of like this Deaf-Mute ball towards the end of the book:)

"Back in the hotel she found the lobby full of deaf-mute delegates in party hats, copied in crepe paper after the fur Chinese communist jobs made popular during the Korean conflict. They were every one of them drunk, and a few of the men grabbed her, thinking to bring her along to a party in the grand ballroom. She tried to struggle out of the silent, gesturing swarm but was too weak. Her legs ached, her mouth tasted horrible. They swept her on into the ballroom, where she was seized about the waist by a handsome young man in a Harris tweed coat and waltzed round and round, through the rustling, shuffling hush, under a great unlit chandelier. Each couple on the floor danced whatever was in the fellow's head: tango, two-step, bossa nova, slop. But how long, Oedipa thought, could it go on before collisions became a serious hindrance? There would have to be collisions. The only alternative was some unthinkable order of music, many rhythms, all keys at once, a choreography in which each couple meshed easy, predestined. Something they all heard with an extra sense atrophied in herself. She followed her partner's lead, limp in the young mute's clasp, waiting for the collisions to begin. But none came. She was danced for half an hour before, by mysterious consensus, everybody took a break, without having felt any touch but the touch of her partner. Jesus Arrabal would have called it an anarchist miracle. Oedipa, with no name for it, was only demoralized. She curtsied and fled."

147London_StJ
Nov 30, 2009, 8:12 pm

I had to read The Crying of Lot 49 in college, and it was not for me. But it is one of those books people should at least try, and I'm glad you gave it a spin.

148avatiakh
Nov 30, 2009, 10:19 pm

Smart kids can be found in these two entertaining children/YA series - Catherine Jink's Evil Genius and the children in Lemony Snicket's A Bad Beginning (Series of Unfortunate Events). Margaret Mahy's The Catalogue of the Universe is probably worth looking at too.

An interesting child character is Oskar in Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close, but I can't remember if he is actually a prodigy but Ender in Ender's Game and Danny in Chaim Potok's The Chosen definitely are.

149avatiakh
Nov 30, 2009, 10:30 pm

Adding another post to say that I really love all Eoin Colfer's books.
I still won't be reading his Hitchhiker's Guide book, because I haven't read the others. I'm also not a fan of these type of 'continuing in his image' publications, but can see that there is a lot of money in it for the publishers and they do attract a lot of publicity.

150girlunderglass
Editado: Dez 1, 2009, 3:32 am

147: Yeah, I'm not sure it was for me either, in that sense. But I'm glad I read it.

148: Thanks for the recs. I already like the Series of Unfortunate Events (even mentioned the Baudelaire children above) but had never heard of the Evil Genius series, I'm looking it up! I really enjoyed Potok's My Name is Asher Lev this summer and was planning to get to The Chosen at some point, now I'm bumping it up my list. As for the Hitchhiker's business, it's a bit like this: I am against what they're trying to do (continuing the series after the author has died) ideologically but at the same time I know that if it's out there I'm gonna read it. And I suppose that's what the publishers are counting on - they don't care what the public really thinks of this decision as long as they buy the books. (and make them rich)

151flissp
Dez 1, 2009, 6:45 am

#146 You see, I read that quote and thought it was wonderful - so evocative and, like you said, dreamlike - you can feel the clamour as you read.

That said, I have read The Crying of Lot 49 - probably 5 or 6 years ago and I know I enjoyed it, but I have next to no memory of it now. I vaguely remember the premise, but that's it. Now I have a pretty rubbish memory a lot of the time, but to remember so little about a book cannot be a good sign!

Great review.

152brenzi
Dez 1, 2009, 9:44 am

>146 girlunderglass: I have to say I've never read anything by Pynchon but at this point I like to be entertained with lush prose and a satisfying plot, a good yarn. I had enough of trying to understand the meaning underneath all the sub plots as a student. This one will not make The Pile.

153kidzdoc
Dez 1, 2009, 9:53 am

You've piqued my interest in The Crying of Lot 49, Eliza, especially with the excerpt from the book. I'll have to give it a try. Thanks for that interesting review!

154Carmenere
Dez 1, 2009, 10:39 am

Eliza, I picked up The Crying of Lot 49 at a library booksale because someone (perhaps Whisper) mentioned it on LT. Can't go wrong for a quarter! Look forward to getting around to it.

155girlunderglass
Dez 1, 2009, 10:45 am

I had to read it for a lit class. I can't say it's usually my type of book - a bit too much of the random "let's throw EVERYTHING in here" but eventually I was glad I read it. It had some wonderful passages like the one I quoted above, and some funny moments (Dr Hilarius saying he once drove a patient insane by making a face at them, the Paranoids' lyrics etc). It's also satisfying whenever there's a pun or reference or subtle hint you get, although I'm sure I missed 80% of them.

156FlossieT
Dez 1, 2009, 5:48 pm

Glossing over Pynchon and back to child prodigies... Baudelaire Fan-for-Life here.

A Wrinkle in Time is wonderful. My primary school teacher read it to us when I was about 8 (she was great). I also loved the sequels, but I know others have not been so keen.

157girlunderglass
Dez 8, 2009, 10:30 am



66. Oroonoko by Aphra Behn
Tags: 1680s, historical fiction, travel lit, U.K., slavery
Rating: ★★★

While it had some interesting commentary on gender, class, aristocracy and religious beliefs at the time of its publishing, I found the story itself a bit dated. The book is not what you'd call a "page-turner". However, given the fact that many scholars consider this to be the first novel ever written in the English language (as many scholars disagree, of course) and Aphra Behn one of the first women to practice writing as a career, I'm glad I read it from a historical perspective. Behn's views on slavery and her political beliefs are also of interest. I found this illuminating passage on Wikipedia: "Todd is probably correct in saying that Aphra Behn did not set out to protest slavery, but however tepid her feelings about slavery, there is no doubt about her feelings on the subject of natural kingship. (...) A natural king could not be enslaved, and, as in the play Behn wrote while in Surinam, The Young King, no land could prosper without a king. Her fictional Surinam is a headless body. Without a true and natural leader (a king) the feeble and corrupt men of position abuse their power. What was missing was a true lord. In the absence of such leadership, a true king, Oroonoko, is misjudged, mistreated, and killed. One potential motive for the novel, or at least one political inspiration, was Behn's view that Surinam was a fruitful and potentially wealthy settlement that needed only a true noble to lead it. Like others sent to investigate the colony, she felt that Charles was not properly informed of the place's potential. When Charles gave up Surinam in 1667 with the Treaty of Breda, Behn was dismayed. This dismay is enacted in the novel in a graphic fashion: if the English, with their aristocracy, mismanaged the colony and the slaves by having an insufficiently noble ruler there, then the democratic and mercantile Dutch would be far worse. (...) Oroonoko can be seen as a royalist's demurral. "

158jmaloney17
Dez 8, 2009, 10:45 am

GUG:
I really like Behn's plays, so I have always been curious about this book. I wondered if it would be a slow read. Her plays are funny (satirical), but it does not sound like this book is in that vein. I will have to read this eventually. Thanks for the insight.

159clfisha
Dez 9, 2009, 7:05 am

#157 Thanks for the review, I keep meaning to try but as jmaloney17 I have been wary. Altough after your review I am less so! I am really keen to try a biography of Aphra Behn if anyone has any recommendations.

160Cait86
Dez 13, 2009, 7:04 pm

Catching up on threads here...

I'm glad you liked A Wrinkle in Time, Eliza. I loved it as a kid, and enjoyed it earlier this year too. If you are interested in more of her works, I'm not really a fan of the Wrinkle sequels, but I do love her Vicky Austin series, which is not fantasy, just normal children's lit. It starts with Meet the Austins, but the best two are A Ring of Endless Light and Troubling a Star.

Oroonoko is definitely a slow read, but like jmaloney17, I love Behn's plays, and her poetry. The Rover is my favourite play ever. Behn is buried in Westminster Abbey, and so I went and found her grave when I was in London in 2008. All the other graves of authors are crowded with tourists, but I was the only one at Behn's grave, which is sort of out-of-the-way. It was very, very cool.

Hope everything is good with you!

161jmaloney17
Editado: Dez 15, 2009, 11:30 am

Cait86
I have a trio of plays that are my favorites The Rover, The Importance of Being Ernest and The Country Wife by William Wycherley. If you have not read The Country Wife, I definatly recommend it. It is quite hilarious. I have a thing for Comedy of Manners.

162girlunderglass
Dez 17, 2009, 10:43 am



67. The Book of Daniel by E.L. Doctorow
Tags: 1970s, historical fiction, U.S.A.
Rating: ★★★★

I can tell just how much I love an author's writing mostly the days after I've finished reading one of his books. When I start writing an e-mail to a friend and after a couple of sentences think"wait a minute, this is not my style, where did I get this from?". When an author is that good, his way of using punctuation or syntax, his unusual metaphors or sentences or a certain attitude and tone behind the words inevitably work their way into your own writing style. Doctorow is that kind of author. His voice stuck inside your head for days and days. Using language and writing in a way that constantly undermines the reliability o language and writing. "The early morning traffic was wondering - I mean the early morning traffic was light, but not many drivers could pass them without wondering who they were and they were going" Or if you prefer: "In any event, my mother and father, standing in for them, went to their deaths for crimes they did not commit. Or maybe they did commit them. Or maybe my mother and father got away with false passports for crimes they didn’t committ. How do you spell comit?" And if you think all this is postmodern mumble-jumble and where's the plot, the story? The story, I will let you know, is wonderful. Wonderful and sad and infuriating and thought-provoking and suspenseful and everything you could wish for. This is the story of the execution of Ethel and Julius Rosenberg (renamed in the book Paul & Rochelle Isaacson) seen from the point of view of their son - Daniel in the book. Our protagonist. Trying to make sense of something that could not and should not make sense for any person calling himself/herself a human being. I could go on with this review but I find that all I want to do is not describe the book (which would be doing it an injustice) but quote passages from it. So I'll just say for me this is a must-read. And stop there.

"The difference between Socrates and Jesus is that no one has ever been put to death in Socrates’ name. And that is because Socrates’ ideas were never made law."

163brenzi
Dez 17, 2009, 11:49 am

Wow! I can't get this one onto The Pile fast enough. You've got me interested.

164flissp
Dez 17, 2009, 11:51 am

I do that! Particularly when I've been reading Jane Austen...

I agree with brenzi, that's definitely going on the Wishlist...

165richardderus
Dez 17, 2009, 12:52 pm

Eliza, pumpkin precious...I think I just did a bad thing...I was cleaning up the guest rooms, found some tatty paperbacks of Leonard Wibberley's Mouse That... books, and since they were fairly awful to look at, flung them out. About 2a, I sat bolt upright in bed, scaring both Frank the Fireman and Stella the Dog half to death, clutching the bedcovers to my throat and whimpering, "Please don't kill me" over and over.

I think, somewhere in the diisorganized mess that I laughingly call my brain, I was supposed to send these to someone absurdly young and vibrantly pretty, which most likely means you. Was I? Did I foul this up royally? The cleaning ladies have toted the chemical-soaked remains of the books out already, but if I was supposed to send them to you and didn't, I'll scare up some copies and send them your way.

Let me know, okay?

166bonniebooks
Dez 17, 2009, 12:58 pm

>162 girlunderglass:: I've heard of The Book of Daniel but haven't been interested enough before to add it to my wish list--adding it now!

167girlunderglass
Dez 17, 2009, 1:02 pm

Richard dear, yes I believe had we been living on the Planet Where Nothing Ever Goes Wrong I would have been the happy recipient of a Wibberley book right about now! :)

I've been told however - I can't remember by whom right now but I'm sure it was no doubt a Very Wise Person (VWP) - that Mr. Wibberley corrupts young minds such as my own so I might have dodged a bullet there.

168richardderus
Dez 17, 2009, 1:16 pm

Dodged a bullet? These books weren't ever that good, so as to corrupt young minds. They're fluff, Cold War send-ups of the stupidity of Big Government that I found laugh-out-loud funny when I was but a sprog.

Come to think on it, yes, they WOULD corrupt your youthfully blank slate of a mind with the detritus of a failed policy. One that seems to be making a come-back, what with the Nobel Peace Prize winner announcing a troop build-up in a faraway place that's irrelevant to US citizens (shades of Henry Kissinger!). Maybe that's a corruption that's GOOD.

169Whisper1
Dez 17, 2009, 2:00 pm

Eliza

Great description of The Book of Daniel on the pile it goes!

170Carmenere
Editado: Dez 17, 2009, 4:36 pm

Eliza! I am putting The Book of Daniel atop my wish list. Doctorow is a favorite of mine but had yet to read that one. I'll be giving you a thumbs up just as soon as it's on your profile page.

171avatiakh
Dez 17, 2009, 5:57 pm

The Book of Daniel has been on my tbr list since last year, so I'm going to move it right near the top for the New Year.

172Carmenere
Dez 17, 2009, 10:12 pm

I saw the review and did as promised. Nice going!

173bonniebooks
Dez 17, 2009, 10:21 pm

>170 Carmenere:: Good idea! I'll do it too!

174Cauterize
Dez 19, 2009, 1:01 am

Sign me up for The Book of Daniel for my TBR. Great review!

175arubabookwoman
Dez 19, 2009, 4:40 pm

Great review for Book of Daniel.

176blackdogbooks
Dez 24, 2009, 12:03 pm

Since you liked the Doctorow, you should try his newest one, Homer and Langley. I got it as an ER and liked it a good deal. It was my first Doctorow read, though I have others on the shelves waiting for me.

177Whisper1
Dez 24, 2009, 7:07 pm

From my house to yours...Merry Christmas!

178rainpebble
Dez 31, 2009, 1:57 pm

Hey gug;
Peace, love and good will all coming your way from me. I love you and wish you the best in 2010.
big new year hug,
belva

179richardderus
Dez 31, 2009, 2:28 pm

What a treasure you are, Eliza, and how happy I am to have met you here! Happy, healthy, and prosperous New Year to you and those you love.

180alcottacre
Jan 1, 2010, 3:17 am

Happy New Year, Eliza!

181FAMeulstee
Jan 1, 2010, 9:57 am

Happy New Year!

182spacepotatoes
Jan 1, 2010, 7:47 pm

Happy New Year, Eliza! Just wanted to let you know that my 2010 challenge thread is up, it's at: http://www.librarything.com/topic/80809

I'm looking forward to seeing more of you around LT in 2010!

183girlunderglass
Jan 3, 2010, 8:44 am

Thanks for the Happy New Year wishes everyone - I hope you all had a lovely time and that you will have a great year! I will not be joining the challenge in 2010...who knows, maybe next year again.

Thank you so much to everyone who was following my thread - I am grateful for every comment you left!

These are the last books I read this year:
75. The Shadow of the Wind by Carlos Ruiz-Zafon ★★★1/2
Sometimes unrealistic storyline but worth the read for the wonderful descriptions of Barcelona and the love of books it inspires.

74. La Oveja Negra y Demas Fabulas by Antonio Monterroso ★★★1/2
Some truly lovely fables in this collection, and some unexceptional ones. On average a ★★★1/2.

73. The Last Samurai by Helen DeWitt ★★★★1/2
One of my favourite reads this year. Ludo, age seven, child prodigy and the protagonist of The Last Samurai is one of my favourite persons in the world right now. I loved this boy with all my heart. And though usually when people say they love a kid they only mean it in a “aww he’s so cute” way, I mean it in a “aww he’s so cute and smart and interesting and brilliant and damaged and fantabulous and loveable and heartbreaking and great and can-I-please-please-please-order-one-just-like-him-somewhere?” I want to make one thing clear in case you were wondering: the title coincides with the title of a known Hollywood movie with Tom Cruise in it. Like I said, coincides. Totally accidental. The book in fact takes its title from another movie: Kurosawa’s Seven Samurai. The relationship between Seven Samurai and this book is not so straightforward as the back cover would have you believe. Yes, it’s true that Sibylla, Ludo’s mother is worried about her son growing up without a role model since his father is ignorant about his existence, so she decides to play the movie every day for him in order to give him not one but 8 male role models: the seven samurai and Kurosawa himself! But the truth is that the relationship between book and movie is much more complex than that. There are beliefs and ideologies embedded in the movie that have become part of who Ludo is. There are life lessons to be had from it. There are languages to be learned. There are words of wisdom to be memorized and repeated. There are fictional characters that become real friends. The complexities of the parallel that DeWitt is trying to draw between the two is mostly up to the reader to figure out. I don’t want to say anything more because the book is not so much about the plot. Suffice to say, The Last Samurai ties with I Know This Much Is True for my number one spot this year. Go read it.

72. All Tomorrow's Parties by William Gibson ★★★
Typical Gibson. The last book in his Bridge trilogy - liked it less than Idoru, but more than Virtual Light.

71. Nate the Great by Marjorie Weinman Sharmat ★★★
Short children's book with cute illustrations.

70. After You'd Gone by Maggie O'Farrell ★★★★
Not the best writing you'll find but very touching and essentially unputdownable. An extremely sad book dealing with grief.

69. Ghost World by Daniel Clowes ★★★★
As good as I expected it to be. The dialogue and characters are so realistic. Everything about this graphic novel rings true.

68. Plain Pleasures and Other Stories by Jane Bowles ★★★1/2
Jane Bowles was the wife of Paul Bowles and considered by may, including Truman Capote, John Ashberry and Tennessee Williams to be one of the most underrated writers of American fiction. Her style is very unique and peculiar, but there are some stunning moments in these short stories.

- I'm very happy that I reached my goal. I will keep adding books on LT and maybe review them once in a while too (but not on a thread). If you want to keep in touch, add me to your LT friends or Interesting Libraries. I've met so many wonderful people here on LT this year that I feel very sad not coming back. But realistically speaking I know I will not have time for the challenge. This summer I'll be graduating, moving to another country where I don't know anyone AND looking for a job so I know it's going to be busy busy busy. I hope you all have a great reading year and maybe see you in 2011!

184kidzdoc
Editado: Jan 3, 2010, 9:13 am

Good luck with school and your post-graduation plans, Eliza. I'm sure I'm not the only one who will miss your witty commentary and those wonderful travel photos. I hope to see you back with us in 2011!

185alcottacre
Jan 3, 2010, 9:24 am

I am sorry you will not be joining us for the 2010 challenge. I do hope you will drop in on us every now and again!

I have added you to my 'interesting libraries' list so I can keep up with your reading. Best of luck to you.

186FlossieT
Editado: Jan 3, 2010, 9:28 am

Congratulations on making 75, and I'm so sorry you won't be joining in for 2010 - I really hope your busy year goes as smoothly as well, with lots of exciting surprises.

187FAMeulstee
Jan 3, 2010, 1:05 pm

congratulations!

I am sorry you won't be joining us this year, but I hope to see you back in 2011!
What country are you going to?
Anita

188avatiakh
Jan 3, 2010, 1:28 pm

Congratulations on your 75 and hope you have a great 2010.

189drneutron
Jan 3, 2010, 4:07 pm

Congrats! And get back here where you belong! 8^}

190Carmenere
Jan 3, 2010, 4:38 pm

Happy New Year Eliza, sounds like it will be a busy one for you. I'll miss your wonderful reviews and reading recommendations, but I'll keep track of your library.
May every bookstore you enter be picture perfect and hold every book you desire. We'll be holding a spot for you!!! :) Lynda

191elliepotten
Editado: Jan 4, 2010, 7:28 am

Awww, I'll miss your thread Eliza! Do come back to us soon and have a wonderful year whatever you're up to. And of course, should you miss your thread too much, you can always drop by one of ours and say hi...

192girlunderglass
Jan 4, 2010, 9:23 am

When I get challenge-nostalgia I will definitely drop by your threads.Thanks for adding me as a friend, and I really hope to be back next year!

Anita, I'm moving to Spain :)

Happy reading everyone!

193Rebeki
Jan 4, 2010, 11:14 am

I will also miss your great reviews, but it sounds like you have a busy and exciting year ahead. Good luck with it all (moving to Spain sounds wonderful) and make sure to come back here when you're settled!

194elliepotten
Jan 4, 2010, 1:15 pm

And make sure you post lots of wonderfully eclectic and lovely photos of Spain on Facebook... I love your photos! It's like they just fell out of a quirky coffee table book or something. :-)

195VisibleGhost
Jan 4, 2010, 9:08 pm

Fare thee well, girlunderglass.

196Cauterize
Jan 5, 2010, 1:02 am

Eliza, I'll miss your exciting thread, I already have added you under IL, but hope you'll be back soon!

197tymfos
Jan 5, 2010, 8:38 pm

I wish you all the best in all your new adventures!

198flissp
Jan 6, 2010, 1:39 pm

Eliza - sorry you're not joining us again next year! I've very much enjoyed your comments/reviews. Happy New Year and good luck with graduation & re-locating!

199spacepotatoes
Jan 7, 2010, 11:25 am

You are going to have a big year! Best of luck with the move and the job hunt, you will definitely be missed around here but I know I'll be looking forward to your return!