1edella
Would it be possible to design a simple default eBook cover? ATM I am using the default gray cover with a blank oval in the middle of the cover.
This is nice, and serves the purpose, but a nifty dedicated ebook image would be even nicer.
Most nice of all would be each downloaded book title in the oval, but I appreciate that means programming, as opposed to just an all purpose default image!
This is nice, and serves the purpose, but a nifty dedicated ebook image would be even nicer.
Most nice of all would be each downloaded book title in the oval, but I appreciate that means programming, as opposed to just an all purpose default image!
2AnnaClaire
Why not create your own and upload it to the Wiki? There's a whole bunch of default covers here, for example.
Edit: Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything other than all-purpose for default covers. That said, you can choose which default cover to use, and on a book-by-book basis, so you can use one for printed books and another for e-books if you like.
Edit: Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be anything other than all-purpose for default covers. That said, you can choose which default cover to use, and on a book-by-book basis, so you can use one for printed books and another for e-books if you like.
3timspalding
We could take pictures of Kindles and etc.
4ragmana
I threw together a series of four ebook covers (two generations of Sony ebook readers and the first two Kindles; the rights holder to the orginal image gave me permission to make these as user-uploaded images to LibraryThing). How would I upload them without linking them to just one particular book or ebook?
5timspalding
Send them to me. Or post them on the wiki so people can talk them over first?
6ragmana
Uploaded to the wiki. I take it this is the correct page: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Default_cover_contest.
8ragmana
Bother. Looking at the uploaded images a day later, the jpeg compression artifacts are just too pronounced. (See espec. around the Sony logos on the first row.) I was able to reduce some of it by reducing the size of the image before uploading (see the re-edited Sony reader on the bottom), but I don't think it is clean enough.
The original image is large in size but low in resolution; reducing the size of that image and re-compressing in low resolution is still going to result in a lot of artifacts. If someone has high resolution, large photographs of ebook readers they would want as covers, then clearing away the background and getting a clean-looking thumbnail cover would be much easier.
The original image is large in size but low in resolution; reducing the size of that image and re-compressing in low resolution is still going to result in a lot of artifacts. If someone has high resolution, large photographs of ebook readers they would want as covers, then clearing away the background and getting a clean-looking thumbnail cover would be much easier.
9ForeignCircus
ragmana,
I've got a Kindle at home and can take some high res pictures if you want. Just let me know!
I've got a Kindle at home and can take some high res pictures if you want. Just let me know!
10timspalding
Questions:
1. We might want something non-device specific. I wouldn't want this row of Kindle images, mostly because I think the Kindle looks like a Timex crossed with a TRS80, but then I suppose that's one reason I don't have one.
2. On Amazon, they use this image that combines the Kindle and a book next to each other. Could be nice.
1. We might want something non-device specific. I wouldn't want this row of Kindle images, mostly because I think the Kindle looks like a Timex crossed with a TRS80, but then I suppose that's one reason I don't have one.
2. On Amazon, they use this image that combines the Kindle and a book next to each other. Could be nice.
11aethercowboy
How 'bout the book cover, only monochrome and pixelated?
12ragmana
>9 ForeignCircus:: ForeignCircus
That would be great! At least we could see whether a thumbnail of the device itself "looks right."
>10 timspalding:: TimSpalding & 11:aethercowboy
I don't care for the look of the Kindle either, but I can see how some users would think of it (or their own device) as the appropriate "cover" for their ebook collection.
Bouncing off aethercowboy's suggestion, perhaps an grey rectangle with some text ("Chapter One" in bold and some lorem ipsum or somesuch beneath it) representing an e-ink screen? Maybe make it in a couple different fonts for variety or categorization purposes? The trick is making it clear that this is an e-ink screen instead of just a drab box; clearly digital, but without betraying or clashing with the literary-ish sensibilities of LT's overall aesthetic. The other issue is that the default covers all have a "real object redrawn digitally" visual quality that would be hard to match or compliment when the original object is already digital! (Hence the backwards-complimentary approach of using real photos to represent digital texts.)
>11 aethercowboy:: aethercowboy's comment specifically
There are lots of interesting ways to approach the design by enabling LT to reprocess each cover. I am not sure programming for that belongs at the top of Tim's priority list (or ever should, absent significant user demand). Maybe if there were lots of additional uses for that bit of code it would be worth it, or maybe applicable code has already been written. Could the code used to place author names over author pictures on mouseover be used here (except requiring a user option or only invoked whenever a user adds an "ebook" tag to their copy)?
If the author names code is applied to this situation easily enough (as an extra option on the page where covers are chosen?), then there are several reasonable ways to apply it.
The simplest would be the white block with the text "ebook" somewhere over the regular book's cover.
Among the simplest would be a small icon overlaying one corner of a regular cover (or in a row along the bottom). This would be pretty extensible later on, wherever user interest arises (possible applications: ebooks, hardcover, softcover, first editions, signed copies, printed article, printed short story). Cons: The "little icon" look would be a tough aesthetic fit; at best they would fit in with the button bar running over the library but would not themselves be buttons, meaning the UI is now sending mixed signals.
Your idea idea of changing the appearance of the entire image, which suggests some cool-looking variations, would be harder to apply with this method. There are some ways to modify the image using semitransparent overlays (either through CSS or by overlaying an image with some transparency), but these generally desaturate the colors rather than eliminate them. (I guess that coule be construed as the future of e-ink displays?) The pixelation idea is tricky too; I played with some overlays to try mimicking a pixelated effect, but none looked good.
That would be great! At least we could see whether a thumbnail of the device itself "looks right."
>10 timspalding:: TimSpalding & 11:aethercowboy
I don't care for the look of the Kindle either, but I can see how some users would think of it (or their own device) as the appropriate "cover" for their ebook collection.
Bouncing off aethercowboy's suggestion, perhaps an grey rectangle with some text ("Chapter One" in bold and some lorem ipsum or somesuch beneath it) representing an e-ink screen? Maybe make it in a couple different fonts for variety or categorization purposes? The trick is making it clear that this is an e-ink screen instead of just a drab box; clearly digital, but without betraying or clashing with the literary-ish sensibilities of LT's overall aesthetic. The other issue is that the default covers all have a "real object redrawn digitally" visual quality that would be hard to match or compliment when the original object is already digital! (Hence the backwards-complimentary approach of using real photos to represent digital texts.)
>11 aethercowboy:: aethercowboy's comment specifically
There are lots of interesting ways to approach the design by enabling LT to reprocess each cover. I am not sure programming for that belongs at the top of Tim's priority list (or ever should, absent significant user demand). Maybe if there were lots of additional uses for that bit of code it would be worth it, or maybe applicable code has already been written. Could the code used to place author names over author pictures on mouseover be used here (except requiring a user option or only invoked whenever a user adds an "ebook" tag to their copy)?
If the author names code is applied to this situation easily enough (as an extra option on the page where covers are chosen?), then there are several reasonable ways to apply it.
The simplest would be the white block with the text "ebook" somewhere over the regular book's cover.
Among the simplest would be a small icon overlaying one corner of a regular cover (or in a row along the bottom). This would be pretty extensible later on, wherever user interest arises (possible applications: ebooks, hardcover, softcover, first editions, signed copies, printed article, printed short story). Cons: The "little icon" look would be a tough aesthetic fit; at best they would fit in with the button bar running over the library but would not themselves be buttons, meaning the UI is now sending mixed signals.
Your idea idea of changing the appearance of the entire image, which suggests some cool-looking variations, would be harder to apply with this method. There are some ways to modify the image using semitransparent overlays (either through CSS or by overlaying an image with some transparency), but these generally desaturate the colors rather than eliminate them. (I guess that coule be construed as the future of e-ink displays?) The pixelation idea is tricky too; I played with some overlays to try mimicking a pixelated effect, but none looked good.
13aethercowboy
>12 ragmana:.
Wow. My comment was intended as a joke. Sorry.
But, in actuality, using CSS, you could add a filter that takes img's, removes their color, and blurs them slightly. Would that complete the effect? Then, if there is some way for LT to know that that edition of the book is an ebook, it can give the img tag displaying the cover a class, and add a new CSS entry:
Wow. My comment was intended as a joke. Sorry.
But, in actuality, using CSS, you could add a filter that takes img's, removes their color, and blurs them slightly. Would that complete the effect? Then, if there is some way for LT to know that that edition of the book is an ebook, it can give the img tag displaying the cover a class, and add a new CSS entry:
img.ebook {
// filter code (left to the LT devs)
}
14AngelaB86
I like the idea of having the various ebooks as available covers: that way everyone can choose the one that applies to their collection.
15reading_fox
Most ebooks come with a cover image. This is sometimes extractable from the book file, using say Calibre. But as it's just a greyscale file of the paper book's image I just use a standard cover image, and tag/collection the information that it's an ebook.
16jjmcgaffey
There's a gorgeous version here - the (a) standard cover, shrunken slightly and put onto a 'screen'. It would be some work to do, but I love it. Note that I don't have whatever gadget that is (Sony?) but the concept it carries is fine with me. In ten years it'll look totally retro, though.
Oh yeah - I have that book as paper, so I haven't used that cover. I'm looking at it for my actual ebooks, though.
Oh yeah - I have that book as paper, so I haven't used that cover. I'm looking at it for my actual ebooks, though.
17PortiaLong
>16 jjmcgaffey: I think that one looks really nice but figuring out how to get the standard cover imbedded in a default e-book skin is beyond me.
I did a creative commons search last month and found this image to use for my ebooks:
http://www.librarything.com/work/8879461/book/50007762
(I'll just link to a book I have it on - I don't know what the etiquette is for posting images in this group.)
The problem is that I want to display this on all of my ebooks which means that I would be uploading this very same image several thousand times - that seems like a huge waste of resources. Not on my end (that's easy) but then LT is storing this same image on all of these work pages and then displaying it as a member-uploaded cover.
If I could persuade someone to at it as one of the default covers would that take up less space / create less clutter / be better in any way ? (I don't know enough about computers to know the where the data is actually taking up space after I upload it.)
I did a creative commons search last month and found this image to use for my ebooks:
http://www.librarything.com/work/8879461/book/50007762
(I'll just link to a book I have it on - I don't know what the etiquette is for posting images in this group.)
The problem is that I want to display this on all of my ebooks which means that I would be uploading this very same image several thousand times - that seems like a huge waste of resources. Not on my end (that's easy) but then LT is storing this same image on all of these work pages and then displaying it as a member-uploaded cover.
If I could persuade someone to at it as one of the default covers would that take up less space / create less clutter / be better in any way ? (I don't know enough about computers to know the where the data is actually taking up space after I upload it.)
18conceptDawg
Putting a regular cover in the kindle image (or sony, iTablet, etc.) is easy to do and could be done automatically. Just have to figure out if we want to do such a thing and how to enable/signify it from the users' perspective.
19WholeHouseLibrary
Throwing in my $0.02...
We don't display publisher's logos with hardcover or paperback books. Ergo, we ought not have shells of eBook devices to wrap around miniaturized book covers. Besides, how would you display the cover for an eBook that you read on a computer or a phone?
If someone were to design a generalized eBook device shell with the word "eBook" on it, we ought to use that rather than promote a particular device.
We don't display publisher's logos with hardcover or paperback books. Ergo, we ought not have shells of eBook devices to wrap around miniaturized book covers. Besides, how would you display the cover for an eBook that you read on a computer or a phone?
If someone were to design a generalized eBook device shell with the word "eBook" on it, we ought to use that rather than promote a particular device.
20Lman
I agree wholeheartedly with WholeHouseLibrary ( err..sorry bout that whole bit) - but I do!
I would love a logo over the normal cover denoting it is an eBook, and then it wouldn't matter where or how you read it, and not solicit (even if inadvertently) any commercial promotion at all. (not sure if that is grammatically correct - but you get the picture).
I would love a logo over the normal cover denoting it is an eBook, and then it wouldn't matter where or how you read it, and not solicit (even if inadvertently) any commercial promotion at all. (not sure if that is grammatically correct - but you get the picture).
21AngelaB86
19: but it wouldn't be promoting an individual device, unless I'm misunderstanding what others are suggesting. People who have the Sony e-reader could select that one, people with the Kindle could select that one, or whichever e-reader they happen to have.
22WholeHouseLibrary
But LT would have to provide a skin for ALL eBook readers, or the logo for B&N if you happen to use their eBook reading software, or Adobe, or (in my case) Gemstar and ebookwise... ad nausea. And it's possible you'd have to get their permission to do that. Maybe not, I don't know. It just doesn't seem practical or reasonable to have to maintain skins of the devices or services.
23Lman
21: you may not be meaning to, but adding the commercial name into the image does promote it somewhat, even (as I mentioned) if inadvertently. Same way Amazon etc have their name here...gives the thought of where to buy - in this case, what to is out there to buy. Whereas a generic logo tells it is an eBook, but not the device on which it can be read. and what if you read it off your computer screen (like me) as WHL suggested?
24bluetyson
23
And there will be people that live places that will never have a Kindle or Sony anything on sale for example.
A possible different approach to giving free advertising for rules lawyers like Amazon would be formats - pdf, html or whatever generic type covers.
Although again a fair number of those.
And there will be people that live places that will never have a Kindle or Sony anything on sale for example.
A possible different approach to giving free advertising for rules lawyers like Amazon would be formats - pdf, html or whatever generic type covers.
Although again a fair number of those.
25PortiaLong
If it is going to be a skin that the regular cover goes into then I would hope we could just have a generic one as well. My spouse does have an ebook reader but I read ebooks either on my XO or just on the computer with one of 3-4 programs.
The other thing is that I don't know which regular cover I would pick to go into the sleeve - I don't think about the ebooks as having covers (although I know they do/can have a file with a cover image).
I wouldn't mind different covers for .pdf, .lit, .htm etc. (but I wouldn't use them as I am considering all instances of the same book as one work and just tagging all the different file types I have it as) BUT all I am REALLY wanting right now is one of the DEFAULT covers to be a generic ebook logo - like this one:
http://www.e-book.com.au/mini%20New%20site%20logo.jpg
The other thing is that I don't know which regular cover I would pick to go into the sleeve - I don't think about the ebooks as having covers (although I know they do/can have a file with a cover image).
I wouldn't mind different covers for .pdf, .lit, .htm etc. (but I wouldn't use them as I am considering all instances of the same book as one work and just tagging all the different file types I have it as) BUT all I am REALLY wanting right now is one of the DEFAULT covers to be a generic ebook logo - like this one:
http://www.e-book.com.au/mini%20New%20site%20logo.jpg
26lquilter
I think we definitely need a generic "ebook" cover. I would not do any images of any particular ebook reader in the image. But maybe a genericized, abstracted ebook reader. An outline of a rectangle, with a smaller rectangle at the top with words, and a small number of obvious buttons below.
It absolutely promotes individual ebook readers to include their particular logos. Moreover it would be a freakin' nightmare to keep up with, as these things are going to continue to proliferate. And what if the companies change their logos?
One could argue that we ought to have generic covers for individual formats, of which amazon's might be one. Although this is a more appealing way to present the same thing to me -- I think of PDFs versus ASCII versus HTML -- I think it's the same painful update nightmare with all the many, many proprietary formats that currently and in the future will exist.
If there were a way for users to upload "generic covers" that would be best. Then the nightmare of updating for formats would be handled through crowd-sourcing. People could use covers to specify formats in their library, or not, as they please.
But in the meantime definitely just a single generic (or a few generic) ebook cover(s) without specifying format, ebook reader, etc.
It absolutely promotes individual ebook readers to include their particular logos. Moreover it would be a freakin' nightmare to keep up with, as these things are going to continue to proliferate. And what if the companies change their logos?
One could argue that we ought to have generic covers for individual formats, of which amazon's might be one. Although this is a more appealing way to present the same thing to me -- I think of PDFs versus ASCII versus HTML -- I think it's the same painful update nightmare with all the many, many proprietary formats that currently and in the future will exist.
If there were a way for users to upload "generic covers" that would be best. Then the nightmare of updating for formats would be handled through crowd-sourcing. People could use covers to specify formats in their library, or not, as they please.
But in the meantime definitely just a single generic (or a few generic) ebook cover(s) without specifying format, ebook reader, etc.
27jjmcgaffey
I agree with lquilter - what I was thinking about doing was either taking an ebook image (probably a Sony, that's pretty generic-looking) and removing any logos or unique oddities, or making an abstract ebook reader image from scratch - end result the same, an image that represents readers without being identifiable as any of them. I actually read on my Palm, and more rarely on either my desktop or my (one of my) laptops - but Kindle/Sony/iLiad/Cool-er says ebook to me (those features they all have in common!).
Since I generally get DRM-free books (either from Gutenberg or from Baen), I usually have them in at least two formats and frequently three or four, for reading on different devices (PDF is fine on the desktop, OK on the laptop, horrible on the Palm. Plain text gets modified to PRC/PDB for the Palm, but lacking links and images is boring to read on a desktop or laptop. Etc.). So personally I don't want to have different images for different formats - I just want something to mark it as being an ebook, for those collections where it's mixed in with paper books (Read, for instance).
Being able to trigger an ebook 'frame' around a chosen cover would be great (maybe a checkbox on the Covers page?). A generic cover that said ebook would also be very useful, for those that just want an ebook cover (though I really don't like PortiaLong's offering - it's so horizontal!).
Since I generally get DRM-free books (either from Gutenberg or from Baen), I usually have them in at least two formats and frequently three or four, for reading on different devices (PDF is fine on the desktop, OK on the laptop, horrible on the Palm. Plain text gets modified to PRC/PDB for the Palm, but lacking links and images is boring to read on a desktop or laptop. Etc.). So personally I don't want to have different images for different formats - I just want something to mark it as being an ebook, for those collections where it's mixed in with paper books (Read, for instance).
Being able to trigger an ebook 'frame' around a chosen cover would be great (maybe a checkbox on the Covers page?). A generic cover that said ebook would also be very useful, for those that just want an ebook cover (though I really don't like PortiaLong's offering - it's so horizontal!).
28countrylife
The "ebook 'frame' around a chosen cover" (27/jjmcgtaffey) sounds like a great idea!
29lampbane
Did anything ever come of this thread? I was just looking at my library and all the ebooks and was thinking it would be nice if I could have a cover that reflected its ebook status, especially for books that don't actually come with a cover.
It would be nice if we had default images for each brand of device (Kindle, Nook, Kobo, iPad) or even each different device (just ereaders on this one, since phones and tablets would get unwieldy super fast).
It would be nice if we had default images for each brand of device (Kindle, Nook, Kobo, iPad) or even each different device (just ereaders on this one, since phones and tablets would get unwieldy super fast).
30jjmcgaffey
Well, I did get around to making the frame, and have quite a few ebooks with the framed cover (take a look in my ebook collection). However, it requires having an image of the cover and my ebook frame (which is in .xcf, GIMP layer format) and compositing them on your computer then saving the resulting image as a .jpg (or .png or whatever) and uploading that to LT. Nothing on LT itself.
If you want the frame, ask - here or in a PM - and I'll email it to you.
If you want the frame, ask - here or in a PM - and I'll email it to you.
31r.orrison
I have ebooks, but wouldn't dream of tying their cover image to any particular device. I have Sony PRS-600 (?) which I don't use any more, I usually use my Nexus 7. Sometimes, though, I use my iPhone. I use Kindle software for books that I've bought on Amazon, but prefer to buy ebooks without DRM from other sources and use Aldiko. For me, relating an ebook cover to a particular device makes as much sense as relating a book cover to a particular chair. A generic "screen" border as an overlay could work.
For the most part, though, I choose an image that matches the cover that's within the ebook, or my generic ebook cover: http://www.librarything.com/work/4090068/covers/36863936
For the most part, though, I choose an image that matches the cover that's within the ebook, or my generic ebook cover: http://www.librarything.com/work/4090068/covers/36863936
32jjmcgaffey
Yeah, I like having a "real" cover - that is, one that matches what's on the paper book or (for most) what's on the ebook. Some ebooks don't have covers with them, or just have a generic-with-title cover, which I dislike - in that case I'll pick a nice cover from among the ones that were applied to the paper version. I like putting the frame on - I honestly don't know what device that was, I think it was one of the little ones that have pretty much faded from sight. It's not, as I mentioned in 27, the device I actually read them on - I don't use a Palm any more, but I read on the computer, on my Android phone or on my Android tablet. None of which say "ereader" to me. So I use that frame, which generically says "ereader" (to me. YMMV) and put in a cover I like (preferably, big enough to be at least reasonably recognizable).
33Jean-Louis
I would like to use photos of my book covers I have not found on the net. If it can be done how can I do that ?
34aspirit
>33 Jean-Louis: Does this Help page answer your question?
https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/HelpThing:Work/Covers
I'm guessing what you want to do is upload the photos from your computer. If you want to instead use a smartphone camera, then try the LibraryThing app. Find the book in the app, click on the outline of a camera around a plus sign that's below the cover image, then either take a photo or select one (by clicking on the bottom-right icons) from a gallery on your phone. You should be able to crop the photo.
https://wiki.librarything.com/index.php/HelpThing:Work/Covers
I'm guessing what you want to do is upload the photos from your computer. If you want to instead use a smartphone camera, then try the LibraryThing app. Find the book in the app, click on the outline of a camera around a plus sign that's below the cover image, then either take a photo or select one (by clicking on the bottom-right icons) from a gallery on your phone. You should be able to crop the photo.
35jjmcgaffey
I scan my covers rather than taking photos - assuming you have a decent scanner (or a recent printer), it's a lot easier to get them straight and well-lighted than by taking a photo (even in the LT app). I find it easier to upload them to the Change Cover page from my computer, as well.
36aspirit
>35 jjmcgaffey: You scan your ebook covers? I haven't seen a functional scanner in years, which might (probably) means I'm out of touch with the capabilities of the latest technology, but I have to admit I'm surprised that works.
37bnielsen
I scan my covers too. The Change Cover process could be a bit nicer, but it works fine. I have 8350 covers scanned at last count.
38AndreasJ
For e-book covers, I take a screenshot and crop appropriately.
(For e-books that don't have a proper cover image I use one of the standard covers.)
(For e-books that don't have a proper cover image I use one of the standard covers.)
39bnielsen
>38 AndreasJ: I do the same. (And I curse publishers of e-books who don't really have a standard for which cover they consider the "official" one.) For some audio-books and podcasts I crop the "cover" to match a standard cd-cover in size. But I don't have many of those.
40jjmcgaffey
>36 aspirit: Really? It's hard to find a printer that doesn't scan, these days. I've got a wide-format printer (almost) purely for scanning those big books, and an old stand-alone scanner that's more convenient.
Oh. No, I don't scan my _ebook_ covers. I scan my paper book covers, and sometimes apply them to the ebooks in calibre and on LT (though I've now given up on using the frame, it's not worth my time). calibre lets me open a cover in a program (I use Irfanview), then I resize it and often punch up the colors, then save it and upload to LT. It also lets me paste a cover in, when I've scanned it or downloaded it from LT or elsewhere on the web.
Oh. No, I don't scan my _ebook_ covers. I scan my paper book covers, and sometimes apply them to the ebooks in calibre and on LT (though I've now given up on using the frame, it's not worth my time). calibre lets me open a cover in a program (I use Irfanview), then I resize it and often punch up the colors, then save it and upload to LT. It also lets me paste a cover in, when I've scanned it or downloaded it from LT or elsewhere on the web.
41lorax
jjmcgaffey:
Really? It's hard to find a printer that doesn't scan, these days.
Most laser printers don't scan. After a couple years without a printer we opted for a laser printer at the beginning of virtual school, when we needed to print out worksheets for kiddo, and got a laser printer - if you don't need color it ends up being much cheaper.
Really? It's hard to find a printer that doesn't scan, these days.
Most laser printers don't scan. After a couple years without a printer we opted for a laser printer at the beginning of virtual school, when we needed to print out worksheets for kiddo, and got a laser printer - if you don't need color it ends up being much cheaper.
42jjmcgaffey
>41 lorax: Ah, ok, yeah. I mostly look at inkjets - or a mono laser as a primary printer for someone who mostly needs to print black and white, but also has an inkjet for occasional use. I don't think I've had a client who didn't have a scanner.
And I've never not had a scanner - my standalone is from before most printers had them, and still works great (thanks to VueScan, it's a replacement driver and scanner program. Paid, and _so_ worth it if you scan). "Everyone must be like me" conceptual error... (also known as "I'm normal").
And I've never not had a scanner - my standalone is from before most printers had them, and still works great (thanks to VueScan, it's a replacement driver and scanner program. Paid, and _so_ worth it if you scan). "Everyone must be like me" conceptual error... (also known as "I'm normal").
43rosalita
>42 jjmcgaffey: I don't want to blow your mind, but I don't have either a printer OR a scanner. :-)
I do have a phone with an excellent camera, though, that works just fine for scanning documents and book covers.
I do have a phone with an excellent camera, though, that works just fine for scanning documents and book covers.
44paradoxosalpha
I gave up on home printers after our last move. They just encourage me to make a lot of extra hardcopy that ends up in the trash. If I really need to print something, I go to the public library or the Staples print shop.
45jjmcgaffey
That (having no printer) would drive me nuts. I need to print about...every 6-8 weeks, and I scan a lot more frequently than that. I suppose I could print at a shop - but that would require me noticing that I need this thing printed out _before_ I'm on my way out the door to where I'll need it! I print an awful lot in a rush. I can and have used my phone for getting stuff - book covers, recipes, etc - but the scanner is a lot better and easier if I have whatever I want to scan at home. The phone is easier if I'm out and about, of course.
46paradoxosalpha
I used to print a lot of maps and directions on my way out the door. Not having a printer has imposed some paperless discipline on me. I do have a phone after all.
47lorax
rosalita (#43):
Yeah, I know plenty of people with neither. We didn't have a printer for a couple years, and still wouldn't if we hadn't needed one for virtual school.
Yeah, I know plenty of people with neither. We didn't have a printer for a couple years, and still wouldn't if we hadn't needed one for virtual school.
48livre-liebe
I've created my own generic cover for ebooks.
Is there somewhere I can upload it to be considered as an addition to the available blank covers?
Is there somewhere I can upload it to be considered as an addition to the available blank covers?
49Nicole_VanK
>48 livre-liebe: Not that I'm aware off. That would be nice. (I keep uploading my own for pretty much any ebook I can't find a proper cover for).