richardderus's sixteenth 2023 thread
É uma continuação do tópico richardderus's fifteenth 2023 thread.
Discussão75 Books Challenge for 2023
Entre no LibraryThing para poder publicar.
2richardderus
2023's madness
Reviews 018 through 025 (out of order) linked here.
Reviews through 025 linked here.
Reviews 026 through 033 linked here.
Reviews 034 up to 039 linked here.
Reviews 040 to 045 linked here.
Reviews 046 through 058 linked here..
Reviews 059 through 068 linked here.
Reviews 069 up to 075 are linked here.
Reviews 076 up to 092 are linked here.
Reviews 093 through 098 are linked here.
Reviews 099 through 104 are linked here.
THIS THREAD'S REVIEWS
105 THE WORLDS OF DUNE: The Places and Cultures that Inspired Frank Herbert in post #173.
106 THE SPICE MUST FLOW: The Story of Dune, from Cult Novels to Visionary Sci-Fi Movies in post #175.
107 Dolly Parton: 100 Remarkable Moments in an Extraordinary Life in post #188.
108 The Who & Quadrophenia in post #191.
109 In the Groove: The Vinyl Record and Turntable Revolution in post #198.
My Last Thread of 2009 Is Here:
Reviews are back-linked there.
My Last Thread of 2010 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2011 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2012 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2013 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2014 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2015 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2016 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2017 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2018 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2019 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2020 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2021 Is Here:
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My Last Thread of 2022 Is Here:
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#Booksgiving is my own version of Iceland's Jolabokaflod. As holiday celebrations go, few rival Yule (Christmas, Noël, Wiehnacht, Solstice celebrations all) in the economic reach. The reason today, the Friday after US "Thanksgiving", is called "Black Friday" is not just an acknowledgment that retail workers are in a justifiably horrible mood today but because their corporate masters are "in the black" with the sales rung up today. Later additions, like "Cyber Monday" and the like, are also based around the consumers of the country getting their shop on.
This year, I'm going to be posting the usual couple of weeks of book reviews...the things I've read this year that I particularly liked. I'll be using the hashtag #Booksgiving. At first I'll focus on things I think you'd give as Yule gifts, then switch to things you can feel good about gifting to yourselves. The idea's to make your own lists and your own versions of the "Yule Book Flood" come together in your minds.
Adopt/adapt this lovely gemütlicht custom for your own!
This year, I'm going to be posting the usual couple of weeks of book reviews...the things I've read this year that I particularly liked. I'll be using the hashtag #Booksgiving. At first I'll focus on things I think you'd give as Yule gifts, then switch to things you can feel good about gifting to yourselves. The idea's to make your own lists and your own versions of the "Yule Book Flood" come together in your minds.
Adopt/adapt this lovely gemütlicht custom for your own!
7richardderus
Very well, your post is welcome now.
8RebaRelishesReading
Hey do I get a crown again?
9RebaRelishesReading
Had to get that one posted quickly -- now...happy new thread Richard!! Hope you're well and have a fine day today.
10figsfromthistle
Happy new thread, Richard!
14richardderus
>9 RebaRelishesReading: Thanks, Reba! You're quick on the draw.
16richardderus
GBBO THOUGHTS
It was Party Week! The good bit first: Matty won star baker, because of one bake...the signature...that he smashed and Josh did not.
Sadder news: Cristy had a HORRIBLE week, poor execution of mediocre ideas. She has gone home. I'm a bit surprised because her capabilities are up to executing each of the ideas she had very, very well.
The signature bake was a sausage roll, of their choosing, inside pastry of their choosing. In season 14, no one in the entire UK should be in excused from having made rough-puff by now, and as it's a PHols original recipe, you'd be an eejit not to use it. Cristy was not an eejit, but just didn't bake her pork, sage, cranberry, garlic and onion filled roll long enough. The pastry looked *ghastly* and ghostly and soggy, and she didn't roll it out thinly enough. Tasha made a frankly stellar-sounding cider-glazed pork filling with apricots that would've won her the seg...if she'd baked her rough-puff longer. The dough looked raw inside, to me anyway. Dan went Asian again, making a shrimp-and-pork filling that sounded tasty; but really was not quite to the judges' taste. He basically got his pastry spot-on and his entire flavor profile, down to the soy dipping sauce and the sesame seeds on the pastry, wrong. Josh, bless his cotton socks, did Yule-dinner flavors in every bake. The turkey-sausage and cranberry rolls were, consistent theme warning!, underbaked rough-puff that made the filling gap under the pastry because they weren't through laminating.
Matty made the only basic, original sausage rolls in the tent. He made the rough-puff perfectly, rolled it thinly enough to allow it to bake into perfect lamination, and the chili flakes he added for kick kicked PHols into handshaking him! Excellent work, ringing only the slightest change on a well-made classic.
Come the showstopper: A chocolate swiss roll with cocoa swiss meringue buttercream filling, cut in a fancy little fussbudget design to look like a caterpillar when it's frosted with dark-chocolate ganache and ornamented with brightly colored meringue doodads to look like legs and spiracles and a chocolate face to give the little kids whose birthdays this will adorn nightmares. Matty came third. Tasha, first mostly because she mad th face look like Noel Fielding (!). Josh put a stake in his hopes for star baker by coming fourth; Dan came last becuse he didn't understand the instructions on how to cut the swiss roll into a caterpillar shape, so ended up with a terrible, tiny mess. Cristy's well-deserved second place finish was, sadly the first and last thing she did right.
Showstopper time! "Don't Be Beige" party buffet with at least three items, at least one savory. All of them must be colorful and very decorative when presented. Cristy was dooooomed, dooooomed! from the get-go because her Willy-Wonka-themed items were all beige doughy things, with the exception of a swiss-roll lollipop shaped slice coated in pink chocolate. Just not enough *oomph* and none of it very well executed. She looked to me like, about halfway through the four-and-a-half hours, she realized this was just not going right. Oh, and she made lemon-meringue CUPCAKES! As in a cupcake paper cup filled with pie filling topped with a baked meringue lid that all had to be eaten with a spoon! No buffet in the world would serve such a guaranteed mess-maker.
Dan, bless!, went way OTT with his dinosaur-themed reasonably colorful desserts in the shape of white chocolate dinosaur eggs, curry-filled pastry dino tracks, cookies shaped like fossils, ankylosaur-shaped mallomars, and the whole beautiful display just...slapdash. Matty made sportsball stuff: Filled crême-brulee flavored donuts decorated as basketballs, curry-filled pies decorated as cricket balls, lime macarons decorated as tennis balls, and chocolate-orange cupcakes iced like golf-course grass. The execution was okay, though his donuts didn't quite get cooked all the way through (it was the first time he'd ever used a deep fryer!), but his cupcakes (filled with orange curd) and macarons were spot-on. Tasha made a farmyard-themed birthday buffet with za'atar and sumac-flavored milk-bread pink pigs; wise of her, because she was star baker in bread week. This worked because they got praise. Her choux-bun lambs filled with blackberry crême diplomat were okay; the raspberry-pistachio viennese whirls that made wheels on her (unbaked) fruit wagons were so underbaked they crumbled at the touch.
Josh, had he done well in the signature, might've made star baker because his "It's Christmas!!!" buffet with white-chocolate and coconut snowman macarons were executed well, christmas-pudding flavored choux buns were properly baked, and a spinach and feta mini-couronne made into a beautiful green individual wreath, were flawless. Just that pestiferous sausage roll...! But honestly Matty deserved the honor because he was the ONLY baker to get the entire sausage roll challenge right in each element. Creditable performances in all the other challenges will lift you up to within grabbing distance of the crown!
On to Pâtisserie Week. It's Matty or Dan for outs there, if I had to guess it'll be Matty because he's not as arty as Dan.
Sadder news: Cristy had a HORRIBLE week, poor execution of mediocre ideas. She has gone home. I'm a bit surprised because her capabilities are up to executing each of the ideas she had very, very well.
The signature bake was a sausage roll, of their choosing, inside pastry of their choosing. In season 14, no one in the entire UK should be in excused from having made rough-puff by now, and as it's a PHols original recipe, you'd be an eejit not to use it. Cristy was not an eejit, but just didn't bake her pork, sage, cranberry, garlic and onion filled roll long enough. The pastry looked *ghastly* and ghostly and soggy, and she didn't roll it out thinly enough. Tasha made a frankly stellar-sounding cider-glazed pork filling with apricots that would've won her the seg...if she'd baked her rough-puff longer. The dough looked raw inside, to me anyway. Dan went Asian again, making a shrimp-and-pork filling that sounded tasty; but really was not quite to the judges' taste. He basically got his pastry spot-on and his entire flavor profile, down to the soy dipping sauce and the sesame seeds on the pastry, wrong. Josh, bless his cotton socks, did Yule-dinner flavors in every bake. The turkey-sausage and cranberry rolls were, consistent theme warning!, underbaked rough-puff that made the filling gap under the pastry because they weren't through laminating.
Matty made the only basic, original sausage rolls in the tent. He made the rough-puff perfectly, rolled it thinly enough to allow it to bake into perfect lamination, and the chili flakes he added for kick kicked PHols into handshaking him! Excellent work, ringing only the slightest change on a well-made classic.
Come the showstopper: A chocolate swiss roll with cocoa swiss meringue buttercream filling, cut in a fancy little fussbudget design to look like a caterpillar when it's frosted with dark-chocolate ganache and ornamented with brightly colored meringue doodads to look like legs and spiracles and a chocolate face to give the little kids whose birthdays this will adorn nightmares. Matty came third. Tasha, first mostly because she mad th face look like Noel Fielding (!). Josh put a stake in his hopes for star baker by coming fourth; Dan came last becuse he didn't understand the instructions on how to cut the swiss roll into a caterpillar shape, so ended up with a terrible, tiny mess. Cristy's well-deserved second place finish was, sadly the first and last thing she did right.
Showstopper time! "Don't Be Beige" party buffet with at least three items, at least one savory. All of them must be colorful and very decorative when presented. Cristy was dooooomed, dooooomed! from the get-go because her Willy-Wonka-themed items were all beige doughy things, with the exception of a swiss-roll lollipop shaped slice coated in pink chocolate. Just not enough *oomph* and none of it very well executed. She looked to me like, about halfway through the four-and-a-half hours, she realized this was just not going right. Oh, and she made lemon-meringue CUPCAKES! As in a cupcake paper cup filled with pie filling topped with a baked meringue lid that all had to be eaten with a spoon! No buffet in the world would serve such a guaranteed mess-maker.
Dan, bless!, went way OTT with his dinosaur-themed reasonably colorful desserts in the shape of white chocolate dinosaur eggs, curry-filled pastry dino tracks, cookies shaped like fossils, ankylosaur-shaped mallomars, and the whole beautiful display just...slapdash. Matty made sportsball stuff: Filled crême-brulee flavored donuts decorated as basketballs, curry-filled pies decorated as cricket balls, lime macarons decorated as tennis balls, and chocolate-orange cupcakes iced like golf-course grass. The execution was okay, though his donuts didn't quite get cooked all the way through (it was the first time he'd ever used a deep fryer!), but his cupcakes (filled with orange curd) and macarons were spot-on. Tasha made a farmyard-themed birthday buffet with za'atar and sumac-flavored milk-bread pink pigs; wise of her, because she was star baker in bread week. This worked because they got praise. Her choux-bun lambs filled with blackberry crême diplomat were okay; the raspberry-pistachio viennese whirls that made wheels on her (unbaked) fruit wagons were so underbaked they crumbled at the touch.
Josh, had he done well in the signature, might've made star baker because his "It's Christmas!!!" buffet with white-chocolate and coconut snowman macarons were executed well, christmas-pudding flavored choux buns were properly baked, and a spinach and feta mini-couronne made into a beautiful green individual wreath, were flawless. Just that pestiferous sausage roll...! But honestly Matty deserved the honor because he was the ONLY baker to get the entire sausage roll challenge right in each element. Creditable performances in all the other challenges will lift you up to within grabbing distance of the crown!
On to Pâtisserie Week. It's Matty or Dan for outs there, if I had to guess it'll be Matty because he's not as arty as Dan.
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>15 katiekrug: Thanks, Katie...my GBBO thoughts are up for when you've watched this week.
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>17 richardderus: - I will return to read them. We probably won't watch until sometime this weekend, as our usual Friday-evening viewing has been preempted :)
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>18 katiekrug: Party hearty!
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>20 Caroline_McElwee: Thanks, Caro! *smooch*
22alcottacre
Happy new thread, RD! I hope you have a wonderful weekend. ((Hugs)) and **smooches**
23RebaRelishesReading
>13 richardderus: Oh that's a real beauty!! Thank you Sir Richard :)
24richardderus
>22 alcottacre: Thank you, Stasia, I hope your weekend's as wonderful as the one you're wishing for me. *smooch*
25richardderus
>23 RebaRelishesReading: That creator, Thuriell, has a whole bunch of stunning crowns on Tumblr. No idea why, but hnoestly who cares when they're that beauteous?
26SilverWolf28
Happy New Thread!
27richardderus
>26 SilverWolf28: Thank you most kindly, Silver. Happy to see you here.
28PaulCranswick
Salutations on your sixteenth thread, dear fellow. Great to see you in such good trim.
29karenmarie
‘Morning, RDear! Happy new thread and happy Saturday to you.
>1 richardderus: Given how much you love turkey, it’s a viable alternative.
>6 richardderus: Great idea, I look forward to your reviews.
*smooch*
>1 richardderus: Given how much you love turkey, it’s a viable alternative.
>6 richardderus: Great idea, I look forward to your reviews.
*smooch*
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>29 karenmarie: Toast...popcorn...jelly beans...what's not to love? Turkey *ptooptoo* is as dry as unbuttered toast and popcorn, not half as yummy as jelly beans.
Thanks for all the lovely wishes, Horrible! *smooch*
Thanks for all the lovely wishes, Horrible! *smooch*
32richardderus
>31 Helenliz: Thank you, Helen! Happy weekend-ahead's reads.
33LizzieD
Happy New Thread, Richard! I'm looking forward to Booksgiving listings - great idea!
*smooch* for the day
*smooch* for the day
38atozgrl
Hello, Richard! I have finally made it over to your thread. Thanks so much for visiting mine!
I have to confess that I did stop by your thread way back when I first re-found my way to LT. Unfortunately, that was in the middle of January when you were missing due to your illness, and your thread was full of good wishes from all your LT friends. That was obviously not the time for me to try to introduce myself. And then when you made your recovery and were back on LT, your threads flew by so fast that I knew I couldn't keep up, so I felt a bit intimidated and didn't want to try to jump in. Of course, I've seen you around other threads, and I've been very impressed by the great range of your knowledge, which is also rather intimidating. But I was very pleased to see you drop by my thread, and I'm glad to return the visit. I know I won't be able to keep up, but I will keep visiting.
>1 richardderus: I love the Peanuts topper!
>6 richardderus: Jolabokaflod. That's a new one to me, but it sounds like fun! I look forward to your #Booksgiving.
I have to confess that I did stop by your thread way back when I first re-found my way to LT. Unfortunately, that was in the middle of January when you were missing due to your illness, and your thread was full of good wishes from all your LT friends. That was obviously not the time for me to try to introduce myself. And then when you made your recovery and were back on LT, your threads flew by so fast that I knew I couldn't keep up, so I felt a bit intimidated and didn't want to try to jump in. Of course, I've seen you around other threads, and I've been very impressed by the great range of your knowledge, which is also rather intimidating. But I was very pleased to see you drop by my thread, and I'm glad to return the visit. I know I won't be able to keep up, but I will keep visiting.
>1 richardderus: I love the Peanuts topper!
>6 richardderus: Jolabokaflod. That's a new one to me, but it sounds like fun! I look forward to your #Booksgiving.
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>37 SandDune: Thank you, Rhian! How lovely it is to see you here! *smooch*
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>36 ArlieS: Hi Arlie, welcome!
41richardderus
>38 atozgrl: Howdy do, Irene! I'm glad you stopped by and said hi. There's no such thing as keeping up...no one's taking roll here. Come by any time you like and you'll always be welcome. The conversation is eclectic and moves fast so jump in when you want.
The Peanuts topper made me giggle so I'm really glad you liked it too.
#Booksgiving will, I hope, be useful and informative. Let me know what you think!
The Peanuts topper made me giggle so I'm really glad you liked it too.
#Booksgiving will, I hope, be useful and informative. Let me know what you think!
42katiekrug
>16 richardderus: I was glad to see Christy go. She was vapid and boring. I did expect that Dan would get the heave-ho, but I don't mind seeing him survive to bake again.
43atozgrl
>41 richardderus: Thank you so much for the warm welcome! I will definitely jump in when I can. I'm sure #Booksgiving will be informative; the comments I've seen from you around the threads always have been. I look forward to seeing your suggestions.
44msf59
Happy Sunday, Richard. Happy New Thread! We have been enjoying Jackson the last few days. He returns home tomorrow. Have you read Blackwater Lightship? I just started it. Toibin is a fine writer.
>35 richardderus: I love that!
>35 richardderus: I love that!
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>42 katiekrug: Given the mess and slapdashery, that surprised and pleased me, too. On both prongs.
46richardderus
>43 atozgrl: ...and see them you shall, starting Friday. I hope your flatteringly elevated opinion survives contact with reality, Irene!
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>44 msf59: I remain astonished that a mean old man like you is so pleased to have a toddler around...so out of character for you...:-P
I read it in the Aughties. TBH, I remember nothing about it because I never reviewed it for some reason. Maybe it was in one of my periodic anti-Irish phases...? At all events, enjoy the read.
I read it in the Aughties. TBH, I remember nothing about it because I never reviewed it for some reason. Maybe it was in one of my periodic anti-Irish phases...? At all events, enjoy the read.
48karenmarie
'Morning, RD. Happy Sunday.
Reading and T-day shopping list will be finalized today, with 3 abandoned book explanations to add to my Lightning Round.
>37 SandDune: Beautiful photo of the moody ocean.
*smooch*
Reading and T-day shopping list will be finalized today, with 3 abandoned book explanations to add to my Lightning Round.
>37 SandDune: Beautiful photo of the moody ocean.
*smooch*
49LizzieD
Good morning, Richard! I do believe that November is finally here. I wish you some sunshine along the way. *smooch*
50richardderus
>48 karenmarie: Morning, Horrible. I'm pretty sure that genre overload is setting in chez vous. You're a story-abandonin' fool these days!
Isn't that a gorgeous image? I liked thid one, too:
Isn't that a gorgeous image? I liked thid one, too:
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>49 LizzieD: Morning, Peggy! It's November chilly here, but the sun's out so it's pleasant (for me, anyway).
Have a lovely!
Have a lovely!
52atozgrl
>46 richardderus: I suspect my opinion will survive!
>50 richardderus: That gave me a good laugh! Love it!
>50 richardderus: That gave me a good laugh! Love it!
54vancouverdeb
Happy New Thread, Richard, and week ahead! *smooch*
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>52 atozgrl: Aren't those glasses perfect? *smooch*
56richardderus
>53 bell7: Sunday *smooch* back, Mary.
57richardderus
>54 vancouverdeb: Thank you most kindly, Deb. You have a great week ahead, too. *smooch*
58LovingLit
>16 richardderus: woah! So much to tempt one...do I go there? It is about the Great British Bake Off though, no? In which case, I may not be as tempted. Just to illustrate my heathen-ness when it comes to baking, I actually ate/drank half a carton of instant custard while sat in the car *in the supermarket car park* today. I blame hormones.
59karenmarie
‘Morning, RDear! Happy Monday to you.
>50 richardderus: New authors are out there, new ways of finding them are still working for me. So far, so good. I love those specs.
*smooch*
>50 richardderus: New authors are out there, new ways of finding them are still working for me. So far, so good. I love those specs.
*smooch*
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>58 LovingLit: Hormones? Sounds like common sense to me...there it is, there you are, so...
Don't sweat the small stuff, Megan. I hope you're doing well (apart from that nascent custard addiction) and happy in life.
Don't sweat the small stuff, Megan. I hope you're doing well (apart from that nascent custard addiction) and happy in life.
61richardderus
>59 karenmarie: *smooch* Hoping your New Sunday has lovely discoveries in it!
62LizzieD
We're gorgeous again this morning, Richard, and the weather is pretty spectacular too. (I'm not sure how to punctuate that so that the world recognizes a joke of sorts.)
"Walk in Beauty" anyway! *smooch*
"Walk in Beauty" anyway! *smooch*
63SandyAMcPherson
Missed the last thread almost entirely.
Looks like life is good where you are...
I'm not reading much these days and wasn't up for posting on Talk threads but trying to skim past a few to assuage my readerly addictions.
Looks like life is good where you are...
I'm not reading much these days and wasn't up for posting on Talk threads but trying to skim past a few to assuage my readerly addictions.
64richardderus
>62 LizzieD: The gorgeous weather's here, too, so I think the weather goddesses put the whole thing on autopilot for a while while they dream up some horrible shocks to our systems for the rest of the year.
...who, me? Cynical? Maybe better described as "experienced." Possibly also "bitter."
*smooch* for my sunshiney friend
...who, me? Cynical? Maybe better described as "experienced." Possibly also "bitter."
*smooch* for my sunshiney friend
65richardderus
>63 SandyAMcPherson: Hi Sandy! I'm glad to see you whenever you care to be seen, so no worries. Those readerly addictions are a bear, aren't they? Anyway, hope all's well there on the great prairies. *smooch*
66alcottacre
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD! I hope you have a marvelous Monday!
67richardderus
>66 alcottacre: Happy New Sunday, Stasia...hoping it's a beautiful day there like it is here. *smooch*
68richardderus
Much giggling when my YGC sent me this.
70RebaRelishesReading
>68 richardderus: Love businesses (and people) with a sense of humor.
Hope you're having a fine Monday, Richard.
Hope you're having a fine Monday, Richard.
71msf59
Morning, Richard. Getting ready to go pick up my "kids". Raining steadily at the moment. Nothing else planned until I pick 'em up later. Books & Juno time.
>68 richardderus: Love it!
>68 richardderus: Love it!
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>69 drneutron: Thanks, Doc!
73richardderus
>70 RebaRelishesReading: It was a perfectly fine Monday indeed, Reba, so your mojo clearly worked, thanks! *smooch*
74richardderus
>71 msf59: This sounds like a perfect day to spend flipping pages and schmoozling ears without the nagging sense of should be doing" guilt. Enjoy it!
76richardderus
>75 karenmarie: Tuesday, is it? I seem to have fast-forwarded in my mind to Friday...deeply unsettling. Understandable, though, since I'm getting the Booksgiving gift-book stuff ready.
I needed that chuckle, and it seems others did, too. *smooch*
I needed that chuckle, and it seems others did, too. *smooch*
77Storeetllr
Happy new(ish) thread!
>35 richardderus: Gorgeous!
Hope you’re staying warm! I’m still sleeping with the window cracked open, but I think that’s going to end soon.
>35 richardderus: Gorgeous!
Hope you’re staying warm! I’m still sleeping with the window cracked open, but I think that’s going to end soon.
78richardderus
>77 Storeetllr: Hiya Mary! It is pleasant here just now, not more than a hint of cold...basically seasonably chilly still. Thank goodness it's not as sticky-icky humid as a week ago was.
I love that image, it looks like the kind of thing Ivan Aivazovsky painted:
Garish example, but it's got the intensity of color and light-on-water effects.
I love that image, it looks like the kind of thing Ivan Aivazovsky painted:
Garish example, but it's got the intensity of color and light-on-water effects.
79Storeetllr
>78 richardderus: Love it. Garish is good when it comes to sunrise and sunsets. And summer gardens. (Wish I could paint half as well.)
81RebaRelishesReading
>73 richardderus: Any time, Richard, any time :)
82alcottacre
>80 richardderus: I can see why you love that artist even though I know absolutely nothing about art. I know what I like though, and I like both of those paintings.
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD.
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD.
83richardderus
EARLY GBBO THOUGHTS
The first all-male final since season 3: Matty, Josh, and Dan. Like Brendan, John Whaite, and Dr. James Morton, all have some serious strengths but one is consistently above all the others. It is Josh's prize to lose.
I am so so sad that Tasha had such a *horrible* weekend. Unlike Cristy, Tasha has always come through under pressure except this time. She made serious errors of judgment and failed to execute up to standard. Terrible time to have a crap weekend but there it is.
I am so so sad that Tasha had such a *horrible* weekend. Unlike Cristy, Tasha has always come through under pressure except this time. She made serious errors of judgment and failed to execute up to standard. Terrible time to have a crap weekend but there it is.
84richardderus
>81 RebaRelishesReading: *smooch*
85richardderus
>82 alcottacre: Hi Stasia! I am not surprised you like the paintings, he was very famous for his seascapes in the 19th century even here in the US. Glorious, aren't they? *smooch*
86SandyAMcPherson
>68 richardderus: This is amusingly clever.
I had to re-read it as the quick skim didn't quite convey the irony (if irony is the word I should use.)
I had to re-read it as the quick skim didn't quite convey the irony (if irony is the word I should use.)
87Helenliz
>80 richardderus: That water looks very wet. Tough trick to pull off well. Not familiar with the artist, that's why I love LT, full of erudition as well as fun & frivolity.
88figsfromthistle
>78 richardderus: Wow! That is quite the green color. Interesting painting. I have to look up Aivazovsky. I could stare at this painting all day. Stunning!
Happy mid week * smooch*
Happy mid week * smooch*
89richardderus
>86 SandyAMcPherson: Humo(u)r is, like martinis, best served dry.
>87 Helenliz: It does look wet, Helen, and it's just astonishing how hard that effect is to pull off. As witness the infrequnce of its achievement in art. He and Turner and, to a lesser extent, Whistler all could do it. Fun fact: Turner and Aivazovsky met in 1842. The Russian scholars think so, anyway. Wrote him a love poem, too, did old JMW.
>87 Helenliz: It does look wet, Helen, and it's just astonishing how hard that effect is to pull off. As witness the infrequnce of its achievement in art. He and Turner and, to a lesser extent, Whistler all could do it. Fun fact: Turner and Aivazovsky met in 1842. The Russian scholars think so, anyway. Wrote him a love poem, too, did old JMW.
90richardderus
>88 figsfromthistle: He painted a LOT of seascapes, Anita, so happy hunting. The problem is, for me at least, even when I love an artist's signature style, after the first fifty, I just quit seeing the work. My little tiny brain says, "What, MORE?!" and goes into cold-lizard mode.
Have a gorgeous, dear lady. *smooch*
Have a gorgeous, dear lady. *smooch*
91karenmarie
'Morning, RDear. Happy Wednesday.
Jenna and I will be doing lots of prep work today, paced, of course.
*smooch*
Jenna and I will be doing lots of prep work today, paced, of course.
*smooch*
92richardderus
>91 karenmarie: ...but it'll be worth it...enjoy the process, Horrible, and recharge well on Friday. *smooch*
93richardderus
The only thing I will say regarding tomorrow's holiday:
Enjoy your feasts.
Enjoy your feasts.
94atozgrl
>78 richardderus: I don't care if this may be garish, I love the colors! I've never heard of that artist before, but I like those paintings. I'll have to look him up.
ETA >93 richardderus: posted while I was writing this comment. Colbert nailed it with that one.
ETA >93 richardderus: posted while I was writing this comment. Colbert nailed it with that one.
95richardderus
>94 atozgrl: Morning, Irene! I am so pleased so many of y'all like Aivazovsky's art! He's unjustly ignored in my never-humble opinion. An Armenian painter of Black-Sea port origins who found his métier early in life, became world-famous, and is now just...invisible...to people. Sad, really.
96SandyAMcPherson
>89 richardderus: Thank you for the (u)
97richardderus
>96 SandyAMcPherson: de rien, ma amie. A painless way for me to indulge y'all's weird overcomplicating fetish.
98alcottacre
>85 richardderus: Yes, they are glorious! Makes me wish that I had even the slightest amount of talent regarding arts, crafts, etc.
>93 richardderus: Very true, unfortunately.
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD!
>93 richardderus: Very true, unfortunately.
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD!
99johnsimpson
Hi Richard dear friend, a belated Happy New Thread.
100vancouverdeb
Lovely seascapes, Richard! I'm big fan on Colbert and his humour. Thanks for adding the " u". It's so important on this side of the border. I trust you say " touque' rather that beanie, as well ? I have also seen it spelled "tuque" which IMO, is completely wrong.
101msf59
>93 richardderus: Perfect, RD. Big wave from chilly Chicagoland.
102PaulCranswick
RD, much to be thankful for in a difficult year - you have your recovering health which I am relieved to celebrate with you and I have my little snip of a Granddaughter.
Happy Thanksgiving from an appreciative non-celebrator.
Happy Thanksgiving from an appreciative non-celebrator.
103FAMeulstee
I hope it is a happy Thursday for you, Richard dear.
Mine isn't as yesterday's election results in my country make me very sad. Back to ignoring climate change, and blaming immigrants and refugees :-(
>68 richardderus: Thanks for the chuchle, much needed and appriciated.
Also liked the Aivazovsky paintings.
Mine isn't as yesterday's election results in my country make me very sad. Back to ignoring climate change, and blaming immigrants and refugees :-(
>68 richardderus: Thanks for the chuchle, much needed and appriciated.
Also liked the Aivazovsky paintings.
104richardderus
>98 alcottacre: It would be so great to be able to convey emotional reality in those ways...alas, we can't...we can appreciate, and audiences are necessary.
Sad, no?
*smooch*
Sad, no?
*smooch*
105richardderus
>99 johnsimpson: Hi John! Happy to see you whenever you're here, so no belated required.
106richardderus
>100 vancouverdeb: "tuque"? *shudder* Given where I live, "beanie" is a loaded insult so it doesn't exist in polite conversation. The headgear itself is very common, though not until deep December as it's not really cold enough. Knitted caps aren't called "touque" here because there are so few French-speaking people compared to the population as a whole.
107richardderus
>101 msf59: Agreed! Colbert is routinely correct, but that one's uniquely apt.
Not-chilly waves back!
Not-chilly waves back!
108richardderus
>102 PaulCranswick: Thank you, PC, it's very true that we both have a LOT to be very grateful for. We're old enough to know celebration is the best appreciation, so cheers! To Pip!
109richardderus
>103 FAMeulstee: It is awful how much the wave of nasty, selfish stupidity is rising around the world. Argentina elected a Trump-equivalent, and the problems they face are epic, so one can only shudder at the misery to come.
Y'all won't be nearly so wretched, though more trying to come there will be. I hate this.
Y'all won't be nearly so wretched, though more trying to come there will be. I hate this.
110karenmarie
‘Morning, RD. Happy Thursday, Happy Thanksgiving.
>93 richardderus: God, yes. A friend of mine’s parents were devout Christians, and walked the walk. They volunteered tirelessly AND tithed to the point where the IRS audited them every single year because they couldn’t believe it. Lots of talkers out there, lots of just plain whack jobs who cherry pick, also lots of people who claim to be Christians who haven’t read the entire Christian Bible, all 27 books. It seems to me that if you’re going to claim a religion, you should know its teachings.
I’m listening to Lost Christianities by Bart D. Ehrman in my car these days, so am a bit riled up and learning all sorts of new things.
>106 richardderus: I’m a proud beanie wearer when I wear the one my mom knit for me in high school to go along with the 8’ scarf I have already brought out for fall/winter/early spring. Otherwise, I have a few cute hats.
*smooch*
>93 richardderus: God, yes. A friend of mine’s parents were devout Christians, and walked the walk. They volunteered tirelessly AND tithed to the point where the IRS audited them every single year because they couldn’t believe it. Lots of talkers out there, lots of just plain whack jobs who cherry pick, also lots of people who claim to be Christians who haven’t read the entire Christian Bible, all 27 books. It seems to me that if you’re going to claim a religion, you should know its teachings.
I’m listening to Lost Christianities by Bart D. Ehrman in my car these days, so am a bit riled up and learning all sorts of new things.
>106 richardderus: I’m a proud beanie wearer when I wear the one my mom knit for me in high school to go along with the 8’ scarf I have already brought out for fall/winter/early spring. Otherwise, I have a few cute hats.
*smooch*
111richardderus
>110 karenmarie: Bart Ehrman is a very interesting scholar of the subject. It's not one I follow religiously (!) but his influence is sufficiently broad that I have heard about him.
Your touque from high school will no doubt be of great interest to the Smithsonian, as there are so few textiles surviving from Antiquity. Care for it well!
Your touque from high school will no doubt be of great interest to the Smithsonian, as there are so few textiles surviving from Antiquity. Care for it well!
112FAMeulstee
>109 richardderus: Just when Brazil was giving us some breath, Argentina elected a new horror... A bit of positivity in Poland and Spain, and fascists in power in Italy. Now nationalists/populists/climate deniers winning the elections here. The world is a mess...
113richardderus
>112 FAMeulstee: ...and the mess could easily kill us all...
114richardderus
Turkey Holocaust blessings, everyone.
...makes about as much sense as the usual names for stuff in space...what are these folks smoking when they name stuff?
...makes about as much sense as the usual names for stuff in space...what are these folks smoking when they name stuff?
116richardderus
>115 jnwelch: Thanks, Joe! I'm honoring the dead avians by not eating them. Grilled cheese for me! (with a big ol' salad with tomatoes, cukes, olives, and les oignons)
117ArlieS
>93 richardderus: *sigh* Don't forget the need to hurt as many people as possible in gawd's name.
I won't wish you a happy Thanksgiving - neither of us celebrate it. But have a great end of week and into the weekend, and good luck avoiding the chaos that is Black Friday, as well as the rest of the lead up to Giftmas. (This is the month I avoid all malls, except that one does have to buy groceries somewhere.)
>106 richardderus: A toque is a specific type of knitted hat; IMO the shape is important.
>110 karenmarie: My maternal grandparents were sincere Christians. I try to remember them whenever the antics of some loud and vicious self-described Christians tempt me to stereotyping all Christians as just like the worst and loudest.
I won't wish you a happy Thanksgiving - neither of us celebrate it. But have a great end of week and into the weekend, and good luck avoiding the chaos that is Black Friday, as well as the rest of the lead up to Giftmas. (This is the month I avoid all malls, except that one does have to buy groceries somewhere.)
>106 richardderus: A toque is a specific type of knitted hat; IMO the shape is important.
>110 karenmarie: My maternal grandparents were sincere Christians. I try to remember them whenever the antics of some loud and vicious self-described Christians tempt me to stereotyping all Christians as just like the worst and loudest.
118PaulCranswick
>112 FAMeulstee: One thing that has always puzzled me, Anita, is why the right wing are always referred to as "populist" when in general terms they are appealing to the baser parts of human nature to derive their support. To me the opposite of a Progressive is a Regressive and that is what most of them are.
119richardderus
>117 ArlieS: Thanks, Arlie. Not celebrating is, as Jews and Muslims know, very weird in this strange culture. Your Yule should be as you want it, including not at all.
I think toques and touques are differen animals, at least that's how I learned it....
***
The Quest for the Great Gray Mossy, from the website The Art of Tomislav Tikulin
I am inflamed with a burning lust to possess this artwork.
I think toques and touques are differen animals, at least that's how I learned it....
***
The Quest for the Great Gray Mossy, from the website The Art of Tomislav Tikulin
I am inflamed with a burning lust to possess this artwork.
120richardderus
>118 PaulCranswick: It seems a strange thing to make into a slur to me as well, PC. "Reactionary" fills that spot for me.
121FAMeulstee
>118 PaulCranswick: >120 richardderus: Can live with calling them both regressive/reactionary.
But in this case the winning party is more nationalist with social tendencies, so not a complete right winged agenda, thus populist fits more. They are against anyone islamic and targeting refugees, although they say they will drop that for the short term to enable their place in the government. They also support workers rights (Dutch workers that is) and social security.
But in this case the winning party is more nationalist with social tendencies, so not a complete right winged agenda, thus populist fits more. They are against anyone islamic and targeting refugees, although they say they will drop that for the short term to enable their place in the government. They also support workers rights (Dutch workers that is) and social security.
122alcottacre
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for our non-turkey day, RD!
123johnsimpson
Hi Richard, Happy Thanksgiving dear friend.
124atozgrl
Happy Thanksgiving, Richard, or non-turkey day, as the case may be!
>106 richardderus: I've never heard the term "touque" before, that's a new one on me. We never called them beanies growing up either. I can't think of anything we called them except maybe knit hats. Bizarrely, when I moved to NC I discovered that people down here call them toboggans. Toboggans?!? That creates the bizarre mental picture of people wearing sleds on their heads.
>106 richardderus: I've never heard the term "touque" before, that's a new one on me. We never called them beanies growing up either. I can't think of anything we called them except maybe knit hats. Bizarrely, when I moved to NC I discovered that people down here call them toboggans. Toboggans?!? That creates the bizarre mental picture of people wearing sleds on their heads.
125vancouverdeb
Dare I ask what Beanie means in your part of the world? I even googled it and could not find an answer. Do you not like turkey, or is a food that makes your gout worse? I don't love eating turkey, but it's not bad with gravy, and I eat it at Christmas and at Thanksgiving. Enjoy that grilled cheese! Those are good. I am enjoying The Creak on The Stairs and I'm about 1/2 way through. I should be able to give you my final verdict soon.
*smooch*
*smooch*
126richardderus
>121 FAMeulstee: That's a lot better than our lot, Anita, but still pretty horrible.
"Regressive" is, goodness knows, a coldly accurate way to label these people.
"Regressive" is, goodness knows, a coldly accurate way to label these people.
127richardderus
>122 alcottacre: My salad was yummy! *smooch*
128richardderus
>123 johnsimpson: Thank you, John, hoping your Thursday was a good one.
129richardderus
>124 atozgrl: Toboggans? Sledrunners behind my ears?! NO!!
The tuque/touque/toque thing is, it seems on further delving, um...contentious...though I learned a "toque" was a sort of a fez-like headgear, many others think of them otherwise. If I call my various headgear anything at all, it's "hat." I assume a glance up will inform my conversation partner which one I'm referring to.
Hoping Leftovers Day will see your dagwoods bulging, Irene! *smooch*
The tuque/touque/toque thing is, it seems on further delving, um...contentious...though I learned a "toque" was a sort of a fez-like headgear, many others think of them otherwise. If I call my various headgear anything at all, it's "hat." I assume a glance up will inform my conversation partner which one I'm referring to.
Hoping Leftovers Day will see your dagwoods bulging, Irene! *smooch*
130richardderus
>125 vancouverdeb: Turkey, Deb, is blah, dry, stringy stuff. I like dark meat and, unless one is extremely persistent and insistent about it, one only gets breast meat. Then, in a facility, there is no choice whatsoever...it's industrial breast-meat rolls, a kind of log of offcuts that is plain ol' ghastly. So, why work that hard for something that's just not that good to start with? I'll have extra dressing, gravy, other stuff I like...except this is a kosher facility, so no dressing, certainly no stuffing, and what they call gravy I call consommé. Plenty of yams! Problem is I hate yams.
Salad, please, I have my own salad dressing and olives, I'll be fine.
"Beanie" is an insulting way to refer to yarmulkes. I don't think I'd heard the word outside refernces to Beanie and Cecil until I got to New York, to be honest. I know I got, by urgent request, a propeller beanie for my 40th birthday. That is still the only time I've ever owned something I've called a beanie.
Happy Leftovers Day!
Salad, please, I have my own salad dressing and olives, I'll be fine.
"Beanie" is an insulting way to refer to yarmulkes. I don't think I'd heard the word outside refernces to Beanie and Cecil until I got to New York, to be honest. I know I got, by urgent request, a propeller beanie for my 40th birthday. That is still the only time I've ever owned something I've called a beanie.
Happy Leftovers Day!
131msf59
Happy Friday, Richard. Of course, I was going to ask you about your Thanksgiving dinner but your reply to Deb up there answered that question. It sure doesn't sound appealing. Bummer. My cousin's wife put on a lovely spread, as usual, with vegan choices too, since her BIL's family is vegan. She also always has good beer and now has a good bourbon or two to choose from. We were happy.
132richardderus
>131 msf59: Hiya Birddude, Turkey Day was perfectly fine for all that I don't like the menu. Nothing dreadful, just the usual kind of day, so hooray for that. Good bourbon and beer sounds perfectly lovely. I'm amazed that there are vegan Turkey Day dishes! Good on her for finding them.
133SandyAMcPherson
>100 vancouverdeb: Yeah, in our neck of the woods, it's 'toque'.
For the Wordlers, that would stump them, huh?
For the Wordlers, that would stump them, huh?
134LizzieD
Behind 70 posts? Sheesh. I wish you a very good day after. I look forward to the personally dull and normal. *smooch*
135richardderus
GBBO THOUGHTS
Farewell, Tasha! I honestly expected you to be a finalist. The upside is you made it to the semis, better than eight other bakers, and did it in BSL!
Our first all-male final since season 3. Matty would've gone home this week...his two financiers were tiramisu-adjacemt, coffee-walnut sponge (that absolute classic British combo, so delish and I don't like walnuts!) with chocolate ganache through them and a vanilla buttercream piped (!) neatly(!!) on top; secondly mango, line, and coconut financiers with white chocolate ganache inside. The second ones got praise from both judges for being the proper texture, but the tiramisu ones were a wee bit overbaked. Then the technical, a bog-standard tarte aux pommes with a blind-baked flaky pastry case, baked frangipane middle, then apple purée atop that and super-thinly sliced (by hand! with a knife not even a mandolin!) apples decoratively set atop the purée and coated in home-made apricot napage (heated jam) for the patisserie sheen, where Matty came second to Josh. The showstopper was a miglie-foglie dessert, like the millefeuille we're used to on the show but served as a whole not in portions. Matty really screwed up, not in flavors or presentation but in crucial technical knowledge: His beautiful round pastry sheets were presented on a lovely tiered stand, filled with crème diplomat flavored in each layer with one being limoncello, one marsala wine, and one amaretto (a zabglione combo!) and topped with lemon and plum curds...goddlemitey does that sound deVOON!...and beautifully presented with various fruits. The issue is he used a cake tin to press the pastry into rounds before he baked them, so they never had a chance to properly laminate and were seriously underbaked in the middle. Had Tasha not had a total mare of a weekend, he'd've gone.
Tasha's financiers were hazelnut and coffee, and pistachio and raspberry..no fillings, just raspbery buttercream and coffee-chocolate ganache piped atop them. The coffee ones were perfectly baked and blandly pleasant to look at, but the pistachio ones, while tasty, were overbaked and poorly decorated with split buttercream. Her technical was DRAMATICALLY underbaked therefore the dreaded soggy bottom was present; the decorative apple-slice spiral was, frankly, horrible looking, her frangipane was underbaked and the puree too heavy; and the inevitable happened as a result when the sides actually fully broke open. The showstopper problems began when, inexplicably, she made INVERSE puff pastry (with miglie-foglie you can't use rough-puff as any normal mortal would because the sheets of pastry that are part of the presentation won't turn out right no matter what, so it MUST be full puff)! The idiot!! It is ***EXPONENTIALLY*** harder to make inverse puff and while the reward is supremely flat, ultraflaky pastry if absolutely nothing goes wrong, you're in the tent! That stuff needs a pastry marble, a full day to chill, and the fastest hands in the world to come close to being right. Honestly once I heard what she was planning I knew it was goodbye. Her flavors, mango and mojito, sounded icksome to me as a combo. Then the mango curd was gritty...happens with underpuréed mango...and her "decoration" was a mango rose in a misshapen white-chocolate cup that she made too thick, sitting atop a top pastry layer dusted with icing sugar. Not up to standard for patisserie week, even without it being predictably behind time and misshapen. To be fair, the judges liked the flavors and her pastry was gorgeously flaky, just not smooth, flat, and beautifully squared off.
Dan made financiers from GAWD! Matcha, pistachio, and pink-peppercorn sponge topped with yuzu gelée and tonka-bean whipped cream for one, and orange and vanilla topped with macerated peaches and raspberries for the other. The latter won him a handshake from Paul, and the judges liked both of them very much. Impressive because Paul, like me, hates matcha (nasty stuff, like lawn clippings with a soupçon of dirt added). His technical was absolutely abysmal, and as a result he came next to last. His pastry was underbaked, his frangipane underflavored, his decorative spiral looked like it was done while he was chemically impaired. Last place earned, had Tasha not imploded. The showstopper was shaped like an electric guitar and flavored like tiramisu with coffee and chocolate créme diplomat and amaretto mousse piped between full-puff layers. He decided to use a blue mirror glaze on the top, which was (of course) a failure since puff pastry isn't smooth enough to make that a good bet. It was gloopy, looked like hell, and added nothing to a fun presentation that otherwisw tasted fine and flaked well enough to guarantee him a deserved slot in the final.
Josh...well. Everything went his way, he planned and executed beautifully, he earned top marks on each bake and was star baker. Prue even said of his showstopper, "I want to clap, it's so perfect." You can watch him and his Nan fetish go all the way because nothing went wrong. It's his crown to lose. This time being all men, and all double star-baker winners, is as evenly matched as any I've ever seen in fourteen years. But Josh is so extremely good at finishing touches and at presentation, it seems to me that, barring one of the others having the weekend of his life, it's going to be his win.
On to the final!
Our first all-male final since season 3. Matty would've gone home this week...his two financiers were tiramisu-adjacemt, coffee-walnut sponge (that absolute classic British combo, so delish and I don't like walnuts!) with chocolate ganache through them and a vanilla buttercream piped (!) neatly(!!) on top; secondly mango, line, and coconut financiers with white chocolate ganache inside. The second ones got praise from both judges for being the proper texture, but the tiramisu ones were a wee bit overbaked. Then the technical, a bog-standard tarte aux pommes with a blind-baked flaky pastry case, baked frangipane middle, then apple purée atop that and super-thinly sliced (by hand! with a knife not even a mandolin!) apples decoratively set atop the purée and coated in home-made apricot napage (heated jam) for the patisserie sheen, where Matty came second to Josh. The showstopper was a miglie-foglie dessert, like the millefeuille we're used to on the show but served as a whole not in portions. Matty really screwed up, not in flavors or presentation but in crucial technical knowledge: His beautiful round pastry sheets were presented on a lovely tiered stand, filled with crème diplomat flavored in each layer with one being limoncello, one marsala wine, and one amaretto (a zabglione combo!) and topped with lemon and plum curds...goddlemitey does that sound deVOON!...and beautifully presented with various fruits. The issue is he used a cake tin to press the pastry into rounds before he baked them, so they never had a chance to properly laminate and were seriously underbaked in the middle. Had Tasha not had a total mare of a weekend, he'd've gone.
Tasha's financiers were hazelnut and coffee, and pistachio and raspberry..no fillings, just raspbery buttercream and coffee-chocolate ganache piped atop them. The coffee ones were perfectly baked and blandly pleasant to look at, but the pistachio ones, while tasty, were overbaked and poorly decorated with split buttercream. Her technical was DRAMATICALLY underbaked therefore the dreaded soggy bottom was present; the decorative apple-slice spiral was, frankly, horrible looking, her frangipane was underbaked and the puree too heavy; and the inevitable happened as a result when the sides actually fully broke open. The showstopper problems began when, inexplicably, she made INVERSE puff pastry (with miglie-foglie you can't use rough-puff as any normal mortal would because the sheets of pastry that are part of the presentation won't turn out right no matter what, so it MUST be full puff)! The idiot!! It is ***EXPONENTIALLY*** harder to make inverse puff and while the reward is supremely flat, ultraflaky pastry if absolutely nothing goes wrong, you're in the tent! That stuff needs a pastry marble, a full day to chill, and the fastest hands in the world to come close to being right. Honestly once I heard what she was planning I knew it was goodbye. Her flavors, mango and mojito, sounded icksome to me as a combo. Then the mango curd was gritty...happens with underpuréed mango...and her "decoration" was a mango rose in a misshapen white-chocolate cup that she made too thick, sitting atop a top pastry layer dusted with icing sugar. Not up to standard for patisserie week, even without it being predictably behind time and misshapen. To be fair, the judges liked the flavors and her pastry was gorgeously flaky, just not smooth, flat, and beautifully squared off.
Dan made financiers from GAWD! Matcha, pistachio, and pink-peppercorn sponge topped with yuzu gelée and tonka-bean whipped cream for one, and orange and vanilla topped with macerated peaches and raspberries for the other. The latter won him a handshake from Paul, and the judges liked both of them very much. Impressive because Paul, like me, hates matcha (nasty stuff, like lawn clippings with a soupçon of dirt added). His technical was absolutely abysmal, and as a result he came next to last. His pastry was underbaked, his frangipane underflavored, his decorative spiral looked like it was done while he was chemically impaired. Last place earned, had Tasha not imploded. The showstopper was shaped like an electric guitar and flavored like tiramisu with coffee and chocolate créme diplomat and amaretto mousse piped between full-puff layers. He decided to use a blue mirror glaze on the top, which was (of course) a failure since puff pastry isn't smooth enough to make that a good bet. It was gloopy, looked like hell, and added nothing to a fun presentation that otherwisw tasted fine and flaked well enough to guarantee him a deserved slot in the final.
Josh...well. Everything went his way, he planned and executed beautifully, he earned top marks on each bake and was star baker. Prue even said of his showstopper, "I want to clap, it's so perfect." You can watch him and his Nan fetish go all the way because nothing went wrong. It's his crown to lose. This time being all men, and all double star-baker winners, is as evenly matched as any I've ever seen in fourteen years. But Josh is so extremely good at finishing touches and at presentation, it seems to me that, barring one of the others having the weekend of his life, it's going to be his win.
On to the final!
136richardderus
>133 SandyAMcPherson: Where I am a "toque" looks like a fez made of fur. Funny how we're so close geographically and culturally so disparate.
*smooch*
*smooch*
137richardderus
>134 LizzieD: Dull and normal *aaahhh* I do love a dull, normal day. *smooch* for a very welcome visit.
138jessibud2
For me, a tuque, or toque, is a warm winter hat, usually knit, with or without a big pompom on top. I have always thought of it as a uniquely Canadian word, specifically from Quebec. I had no idea the word was even used outside of Canada. But then, I never wear hats of any kind so I am probably just out of the loop
139richardderus
>138 jessibud2: This is fascinating! Maybe more unusually than us and the Brits (given geographic proximity), us and the Canadians are divided by a common language.
140SandDune
I just tend to call it a woolly hat, or a beanie if it's more close and slightly less woolly.
141alcottacre
>127 richardderus: I thought you were having grilled cheese?
I received a couple of books that you recommended in this week. Not sure when I will get around to reading them though, lol.
((Hugs)) and **smooches**
I received a couple of books that you recommended in this week. Not sure when I will get around to reading them though, lol.
((Hugs)) and **smooches**
142richardderus
>140 SandDune: "Hat" always works, doesn't it, Rhian.
143richardderus
>141 alcottacre: That was lunch, not dinner...that was the standard stuff, so I requested a salad. I have my own dressing and olives, it was okay....
*smooch*
*smooch*
144alcottacre
>143 richardderus: The salad sounds much better than whatever they others were eating anyway! I am glad you had your own way of fixing it up. I love olives, lol.
145vancouverdeb
My DIL would agree with you that white turkey meat is not worth much. She also prefers the dark meat. I had to look up yarmulke. I was not sure if that was prayer scarf or what. I do see people around here wearing what I would call " a skull cap" . Learned a new word today, thanks RD. Interesting that Shelley would spell toque " tuque" as well.
As for my current read , The Creak on the Stairs, I have just about 30 pages to go this evening. I would say, yes, I think you will enjoy. I'm quite confident. I'm loving it.
As for my current read , The Creak on the Stairs, I have just about 30 pages to go this evening. I would say, yes, I think you will enjoy. I'm quite confident. I'm loving it.
146FAMeulstee
>126 richardderus: We do have some like your lot, Richard dear, but only a few parliament seats for them.
Most reactionary is a small far right christian party, with two or three seats for decades. And two new ones, one says he wants to go back to the times before the 'Age of Enlightenment', pretty regressive I think...
Most reactionary is a small far right christian party, with two or three seats for decades. And two new ones, one says he wants to go back to the times before the 'Age of Enlightenment', pretty regressive I think...
147richardderus
>145 vancouverdeb: Oh no! I'm sure I misread that...you meant to say I'd hate it, I'm quite sure, because I'd have to buy a copy and you're aware of how thinly stretched my "resources" are. There, confusion and poverty averted.
Your DiL sounds like a lady of refined taste and sound practical intelligence.
The hat's name and the spelling of same is just such a strange, garbled mess, it's a perfect example of how hard human communication really is. We all have different pictures attached to that word, and different words attached to the object...as simple as a hat! Other stuff is even tougher to get consensus on...the wonder is we ever get anything agreed on in "consensus reality."
Your DiL sounds like a lady of refined taste and sound practical intelligence.
The hat's name and the spelling of same is just such a strange, garbled mess, it's a perfect example of how hard human communication really is. We all have different pictures attached to that word, and different words attached to the object...as simple as a hat! Other stuff is even tougher to get consensus on...the wonder is we ever get anything agreed on in "consensus reality."
148richardderus
>146 FAMeulstee: before the 'Age of Enlightenment'
...
...
...but that's IMPOSSIBLE! It can not be done! Restore the Divine Right of Kings? Bring back the dear old corvée system of taxation? The man's an idiot!
...
...
...but that's IMPOSSIBLE! It can not be done! Restore the Divine Right of Kings? Bring back the dear old corvée system of taxation? The man's an idiot!
149FAMeulstee
>148 richardderus: Well, at least he wouldn't have a seat in parliament back there!
(although we Dutch would have our Republic back...)
Agreed, these are impossible, even unthinkable thoughts of an idiot.
(although we Dutch would have our Republic back...)
Agreed, these are impossible, even unthinkable thoughts of an idiot.
150richardderus
>149 FAMeulstee: I can but roll my eyes at them all.
151PaulCranswick
>121 FAMeulstee: I hope that you mean that they are against Islamists and not Islamic but most people are now unable to tell the difference unfortunately, Anita and all muslims are going to become tainted as zealots and terrorists in Europe if we are not more careful.
152PaulCranswick
By the way, RD, you have passed 5,000 posts on your 2023 threads today dear fellow. Quite an achievement considering you, erm, missed a scary chunk of it.
153richardderus
>151 PaulCranswick: Such a subtle distinction isn't likely to be made by the kind of people who hate based on fantasies.
>152 PaulCranswick: Wow! That *is* a surprise since, as you say, I missed a lot of the year. Good gravy.
>152 PaulCranswick: Wow! That *is* a surprise since, as you say, I missed a lot of the year. Good gravy.
154karenmarie
‘Morning, RDear! Happy Saturday to you.
>111 richardderus: Bart Ehrman is a professor up the road at UNC Chapel Hill, of course, and the Friends of the Library probably get more of his books in donations than we might otherwise. I take advantage at sales and by snagging them during book sort and paying for them at the next sale.
Ehrman went from Episcopalian to born-again evangelical to liberal Christian to agnostic atheist after “struggling with the philosophical problems of evil and suffering.” according to Wikipedia.
Heh. I just took a selfie of me w/scarf and beanie, not toque/tuque and posted it on my thread.
>130 richardderus: I like dark meat and that’s why I always make a whole turkey. I’m the only one who ever wants dark meat in our family except for one cousin we rarely get to see at Thanksgiving, but I’m selfish that way.
*smooch* from your own Horrible
>111 richardderus: Bart Ehrman is a professor up the road at UNC Chapel Hill, of course, and the Friends of the Library probably get more of his books in donations than we might otherwise. I take advantage at sales and by snagging them during book sort and paying for them at the next sale.
Ehrman went from Episcopalian to born-again evangelical to liberal Christian to agnostic atheist after “struggling with the philosophical problems of evil and suffering.” according to Wikipedia.
Heh. I just took a selfie of me w/scarf and beanie, not toque/tuque and posted it on my thread.
>130 richardderus: I like dark meat and that’s why I always make a whole turkey. I’m the only one who ever wants dark meat in our family except for one cousin we rarely get to see at Thanksgiving, but I’m selfish that way.
*smooch* from your own Horrible
155richardderus
>154 karenmarie: Astonishing how well that tuque held its color after all this time...looks lovely on you, of course.
Ehrman's approach to religion is, like his journey, what mine would've been absent the gay-intolerant abuses of the religious nuts I knew. I was always, always going to end up an atheist but it would've taken longer.
Considering the hugeness of modern turkeys, I don't think anyone suffers from dearth in your cooking of a whole bird. An alternate-history story series I liked a lot had caucasians moving across the Pacific instead of the Denisovan/Siberian folk who did in our timeline. They didn't bring domestic fowl because they wouldn't've had them yet when that migration began. They domesticated turkeys instead, and the hero was very surprised when he ate his first scrambled egg....
Ehrman's approach to religion is, like his journey, what mine would've been absent the gay-intolerant abuses of the religious nuts I knew. I was always, always going to end up an atheist but it would've taken longer.
Considering the hugeness of modern turkeys, I don't think anyone suffers from dearth in your cooking of a whole bird. An alternate-history story series I liked a lot had caucasians moving across the Pacific instead of the Denisovan/Siberian folk who did in our timeline. They didn't bring domestic fowl because they wouldn't've had them yet when that migration began. They domesticated turkeys instead, and the hero was very surprised when he ate his first scrambled egg....
156FAMeulstee
>151 PaulCranswick: I am afaid not, Paul, they would like the Koran forbidden, same for headscarfs, and all muslims to leave the country. And yes, that would include you, if you lived here :'(
But that part would be put aside (they say) for a chance to get into the government.
But that part would be put aside (they say) for a chance to get into the government.
157richardderus
>156 FAMeulstee: Put aside for how long, and to what extent? That's the problem with hate politics, there's no reason to trust the haters will not act out their hatred at the very first opportunity.
158FAMeulstee
>157 richardderus: No clue on that, Richard dear, I don't trust them either. They give me an eerie Germany in the 1930s feel...
159richardderus
>158 FAMeulstee: Exactly that. Unnerving to those who read, and understood, history.
160Storeetllr
Happy weekend, Richard! Though for us, every day is a weekend, eh? Delurking to push into your conversation with Anita.
>146 FAMeulstee: That idiot only wants to go back to before the Enlightenment because he imagines he would be one of the aristos and live like a king. If he were like the majority of people back then, i.e. peasants, it wouldn’t be fun at all. Honestly, he’s fantasizing and needs to read more history, and not of the historical fiction variety.
>154 karenmarie: Coming over to your thread to see.
>146 FAMeulstee: That idiot only wants to go back to before the Enlightenment because he imagines he would be one of the aristos and live like a king. If he were like the majority of people back then, i.e. peasants, it wouldn’t be fun at all. Honestly, he’s fantasizing and needs to read more history, and not of the historical fiction variety.
>154 karenmarie: Coming over to your thread to see.
161FAMeulstee
>160 Storeetllr: A little more complicated than that, Mary, as in that time we had the Dutch Republic, where aristo's didn't have that much to say. The rich traders (and some ministers of the Dutch Reformed Church) ruled the country, that was almost as much polarised as it is now.
Indeed, still in the majority were the poor workers, and small farmers, who didn't have much to say.
And indeed, he is an idiot.
Indeed, still in the majority were the poor workers, and small farmers, who didn't have much to say.
And indeed, he is an idiot.
162ArlieS
>125 vancouverdeb: To me a beanie is more or less symmetrical (round), and not large enough to cover the ears. Extra points if it has something in the center. It should also be made of materials not optimized for warmth. It also shouldn't have a significant brim, which would make it a sunhat. A skullcap is similar but smaller, and generally minus any center decoration.
A toque is designed to keep your head warm, including your ears. Like a beanie, it's radially symmetrical, and should have something noticeable in the center.
These definitions come from Montreal in the 1960s or so, though beanies pretty much didn't exist locally.
>154 karenmarie: It's hard to believe in a _good_ deity that's also omnipotent, given the human condition, or for that matter the condition of all life. Every terrible thing that happens is necessarily "god's will". There's only so much rationalization one can do, either that anything else possible would be worse, or that all this misery serves a greater good - particularly if that greater good is supposed to be good for everyone, including the sufferers.
>155 richardderus: My religious journey was shaped by radical parents, with an anti-Church father and a mother in her atheist phase during my childhood. It was also shaped by grandparents who took me to Anglican services whenever I stayed at their house over a weekend.
If I hadn't had "religious experiences", I'd have stayed the atheist I was raised to be, in spite of finding some of the details fascinating. As it was, my experiences turned me into a seeker, and my feminism ruled out just about all the choices on offer. (If your god requires that clergy be male, as e.g. better resembling deity, then to me it's obvious you should have no female members of your sect. Ditto if the sect has rules for females which are onerous and don't apply to males, with a possible exception for rules dealing with biology - menstrual taboos, post-childbirth rituals, etc.)
Net result: I'm something of a theologian, find polytheism more plausible than monotheism, but mostly get read as a dyed-in-the-wool atheist. (I can't possibly be serious about the polytheism, from the POV of most monotheists, so I *must* be affecting it in a spirit of parody....)
If I have to label myself, I'm a polytheist agnostic, who sometimes practices the "hard polytheistic" sub-branch of the heathen branch of neo-paganism. When it comes to the mono-gods, I'm a hard atheist, except emotionally - how can one hate something one truly doesn't believe to exist? No matter what the worshippers say, their imaginary friend is imaginary, and so cannot possibly have committed the evils they attribute to Him, nor demanded that they commit additional evils in His name.
A toque is designed to keep your head warm, including your ears. Like a beanie, it's radially symmetrical, and should have something noticeable in the center.
These definitions come from Montreal in the 1960s or so, though beanies pretty much didn't exist locally.
>154 karenmarie: It's hard to believe in a _good_ deity that's also omnipotent, given the human condition, or for that matter the condition of all life. Every terrible thing that happens is necessarily "god's will". There's only so much rationalization one can do, either that anything else possible would be worse, or that all this misery serves a greater good - particularly if that greater good is supposed to be good for everyone, including the sufferers.
>155 richardderus: My religious journey was shaped by radical parents, with an anti-Church father and a mother in her atheist phase during my childhood. It was also shaped by grandparents who took me to Anglican services whenever I stayed at their house over a weekend.
If I hadn't had "religious experiences", I'd have stayed the atheist I was raised to be, in spite of finding some of the details fascinating. As it was, my experiences turned me into a seeker, and my feminism ruled out just about all the choices on offer. (If your god requires that clergy be male, as e.g. better resembling deity, then to me it's obvious you should have no female members of your sect. Ditto if the sect has rules for females which are onerous and don't apply to males, with a possible exception for rules dealing with biology - menstrual taboos, post-childbirth rituals, etc.)
Net result: I'm something of a theologian, find polytheism more plausible than monotheism, but mostly get read as a dyed-in-the-wool atheist. (I can't possibly be serious about the polytheism, from the POV of most monotheists, so I *must* be affecting it in a spirit of parody....)
If I have to label myself, I'm a polytheist agnostic, who sometimes practices the "hard polytheistic" sub-branch of the heathen branch of neo-paganism. When it comes to the mono-gods, I'm a hard atheist, except emotionally - how can one hate something one truly doesn't believe to exist? No matter what the worshippers say, their imaginary friend is imaginary, and so cannot possibly have committed the evils they attribute to Him, nor demanded that they commit additional evils in His name.
163Storeetllr
>161 FAMeulstee: Sorry, I meant wealthy, not necessarily nobility. And it’s not only the lack of a say in governance, it was also the filthy living conditions and backbreaking work most had to endure 24/7. Although things might have been better in the Netherlands back then, it still would be offputting to most modern first world citizens of any country.
164FAMeulstee
>163 Storeetllr: You are right, Mary.
Only slightly better/different here, traders are a larger, more differentiated group.
But no serfdom, or required days to work for an owner.
And I think he was just boasting when he said wanting to go back there.
Only slightly better/different here, traders are a larger, more differentiated group.
But no serfdom, or required days to work for an owner.
And I think he was just boasting when he said wanting to go back there.
165alcottacre
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD.
I hope you have a wonderful weekend!
I hope you have a wonderful weekend!
166PaulCranswick
>158 FAMeulstee: That is ominous for the future of your wonderful country, Anita.
Would be quite ironic if I was shown the door, Anita, given my passionate dislike of organized religion, fundamentalism of all kinds and my views as a self-created Social Libertarian.
Would be quite ironic if I was shown the door, Anita, given my passionate dislike of organized religion, fundamentalism of all kinds and my views as a self-created Social Libertarian.
167richardderus
>162 ArlieS: "Polytheist(ic) agnostic" sounds a lot like the only religion I don't disparage: Shinto. Feminists as a group ought to be the most atheistic part of the population, given religion's attitude towards women in such huge swaths of its varying expressions. Likewise LGBTQIA2S+ people, for the same reasons. I do not know of a religion with an historical record of supporting the right of my personal minority-membership group to exist, still less be full participants in their fantasy fandom.
168richardderus
>164 FAMeulstee:, >163 Storeetllr: Political professionals never seem to identify with the lower orders for very long, or very consistently.
169richardderus
>165 alcottacre: *smoochiesmoochsmooch* The same wishes heartily returned.
170richardderus
>166 PaulCranswick: The problem with membership in a religion is that you, as a member, are liable for all the beliefs and behaviors publicly espoused by that religion's mainstream, its minority opinions, its historical track record, all of it. There's no cherry-picking. If you don't agree with all of them, don't identify as one of them or you are them.
171atozgrl
>129 richardderus: Today was our Leftovers Day, as yesterday was the home-cooking Thanksgiving, and yes, our dagwoods are bulging! *smooch*
>168 richardderus: So then why do the Trump cultists, most of whom are among the lower orders, continue to be mesmerized by him? That's one of the things about his continued popularity that has me most bumfuzzled.
>168 richardderus: So then why do the Trump cultists, most of whom are among the lower orders, continue to be mesmerized by him? That's one of the things about his continued popularity that has me most bumfuzzled.
172richardderus
>171 atozgrl: I'm glad, if a tiny bit envious, that y'all had good ol' bulging dagwoods, Irene. Someday maybe you will feel adventurous and try my leftovers day favorite: buttered corn tortilla, dressing, and cranberry sauce with a scrambled egg. I know it's weird. It's also yummy.
Why doe 45 have cultists? That's where I completely lose the thread. He's repulsive, sleazy, and a complete sociopath. What makes that a good thing to anyone?
Why doe 45 have cultists? That's where I completely lose the thread. He's repulsive, sleazy, and a complete sociopath. What makes that a good thing to anyone?
173richardderus
105 THE WORLDS OF DUNE: The Places and Cultures that Inspired Frank Herbert by Tom Huddleston
Rating: 4* of five
The Publisher Says: Some writers build worlds. Others birth entire universes.
In the decades since its publication, Frank Herbert’s Dune has become arguably the best-selling and certainly the best-known science fiction novel ever written. So how did an ex-Navy newspaperman from Washington State come to write such a world-conquering novel? And how was he able to pack it with so many layers of myth and meaning?
Herbert’s boundless imagination was sparked by a dizzying array of ideas, from classical history to cutting-edge science, from environmentalism to Zen philosophy, and from Arabic texts to Shakespeare’s tragedies.
Beginning on Arrakis and going planet by planet, The Worlds of Dune offers a supremely deep dive into Herbert's universe—detailing along the way the many diverse strands that he wove into his epic creation to offer a visually rich accompaniment to this sci-fi legend.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: Glorious illustrated companion to the Duneiverse was published in October 2023 to coincide with the pre-WGA/SAG strikes release of Dune Part Two. Now scheduled for release on 1 March 2024 in the US (per IMDb), the companion film to 2021's gorgeous Dune means we can finally show the marketing case for a beautiful, informative arty book about how Frank Herbert came up with the ideas, and examined the cultures, that he based his utterly engrossing work on.
Take a gander at this table of contents...the in-book design's beautiful to my eye, the clarity of information presentation is usable, and the synopsis is amply supported by the part and chapter titles:
Part One: ARRAKIS
Chapter One Desert Planet
Chapter Two The Fremen
Chapter Three The Spice
Part Two: CALADAN
Chapter Four House Atreides
Chapter Five Paul Muad'dib
Chapter Six Lady Jessica and the Bene Gesserit
Part Three: GIEDI PRIME
Chapter Seven House Harkonnen
Chapter Eight Piter De Vries and the Mentats
Chapter Nine The CHOAM Corporation
Part Four: KAITAN
Chapter Ten House Corrino and the Padishah Emperor
Chapter Eleven The Landsraad
Chapter Twelve The Spacing Guild
An introduction to Herbert's life whizzes along in just over ten pages, and there are the usual things in the back matter: An Epilogue, notes, credits, sources, etc.
This is not a long book, nor is it a scholarly evaluation of Dune in all its genre glory. This is a book for the aficionado of the world of to have for their display and their aesthetic pleasure. It will not elucidate matters of great debate within the Duneiverse, nor will it enlighten most long-time fans about most matters around the creation of the Duneiverse in print or on screens. The point of it is to make the reality of the great work beautiful and ready to seduce the eyes:
A gift to give that shows you listened, a gift to yourself if you're a genre fan, a beautiful object to have and enjoy.
Rating: 4* of five
The Publisher Says: Some writers build worlds. Others birth entire universes.
In the decades since its publication, Frank Herbert’s Dune has become arguably the best-selling and certainly the best-known science fiction novel ever written. So how did an ex-Navy newspaperman from Washington State come to write such a world-conquering novel? And how was he able to pack it with so many layers of myth and meaning?
Herbert’s boundless imagination was sparked by a dizzying array of ideas, from classical history to cutting-edge science, from environmentalism to Zen philosophy, and from Arabic texts to Shakespeare’s tragedies.
Beginning on Arrakis and going planet by planet, The Worlds of Dune offers a supremely deep dive into Herbert's universe—detailing along the way the many diverse strands that he wove into his epic creation to offer a visually rich accompaniment to this sci-fi legend.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: Glorious illustrated companion to the Duneiverse was published in October 2023 to coincide with the pre-WGA/SAG strikes release of Dune Part Two. Now scheduled for release on 1 March 2024 in the US (per IMDb), the companion film to 2021's gorgeous Dune means we can finally show the marketing case for a beautiful, informative arty book about how Frank Herbert came up with the ideas, and examined the cultures, that he based his utterly engrossing work on.
Take a gander at this table of contents...the in-book design's beautiful to my eye, the clarity of information presentation is usable, and the synopsis is amply supported by the part and chapter titles:
Part One: ARRAKIS
Part Two: CALADAN
Part Three: GIEDI PRIME
Part Four: KAITAN
An introduction to Herbert's life whizzes along in just over ten pages, and there are the usual things in the back matter: An Epilogue, notes, credits, sources, etc.
This is not a long book, nor is it a scholarly evaluation of Dune in all its genre glory. This is a book for the aficionado of the world of to have for their display and their aesthetic pleasure. It will not elucidate matters of great debate within the Duneiverse, nor will it enlighten most long-time fans about most matters around the creation of the Duneiverse in print or on screens. The point of it is to make the reality of the great work beautiful and ready to seduce the eyes:
A gift to give that shows you listened, a gift to yourself if you're a genre fan, a beautiful object to have and enjoy.
174karenmarie
‘Morning, RDear. Happy Sunday to you.
>155 richardderus: hugeness of modern turkeys. Yup.
>173 richardderus: Excellent review, and I'm almost tempted to get it for Jenna for Christmas. I read Dune a very long time ago and loved it, but never continued reading the series.
*smooch*
>155 richardderus: hugeness of modern turkeys. Yup.
>173 richardderus: Excellent review, and I'm almost tempted to get it for Jenna for Christmas. I read Dune a very long time ago and loved it, but never continued reading the series.
*smooch*
175richardderus
106 THE SPICE MUST FLOW: The Story of Dune, from Cult Novels to Visionary Sci-Fi Movies by Ryan Britt
Rating: 4* of five
The Publisher Says: Geek-culture expert Ryan Britt takes us behind the pages and scenes of the science-fiction phenomenon Dune, charting the series' life from cult sci-fi novels to some of the most visionary movies of all time.
Using original, deep-access reporting, extensive research, and insightful commentary, The Spice Must Flow brings the true popularity of Dune out into the light for the very first time. With original interviews with the beloved actors and directors behind the films—including Timothée Chalamet, Kyle Maclachlan, Denis Villeneuve, Patrick Stewart, Rebecca Ferguson, Alec Newman, and many more—The Spice Must Flow also examines the far-reaching influence of Dune on art, music, politics, and, most notably, its status as the first ecological science-fiction story specifically concerned with climate change.
Britt skillfully and entertainingly guides readers through the history of how the Dune universe has unfolded, including the novel’s unlikely evolution from a failed piece of journalism about Oregon sand dunes into an epic science-fiction story, the way Herbert’s work inspired George Lucas, untold stories from the 1984 David Lynch film, the knife-edge balance between blockbuster hit and indie film Timothée Chalamet brings to the 2021 movie, and the exciting future of the franchise. Through a blend of narrative, oral history elements, and fascinating trivia, The Spice Must Flow is the new essential guide to the behind-the-scenes story of Dune. The fiction of Dune is deadly serious, but the real-life story of how it came into existence is full of wonder, surprises, and spice.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA NETGALLEY. THANK YOU.
My Review: What I said the book above wasn't this book is. It's by archgeek Ryan Britt of Luke Skywalker Can't Read: And Other Geeky Truths fame, so he's got the chops and knows both the beat and the drill. Plume's published three of his books now, so clearly he commands the geek-culture street cred to make it profitable. Plus he's got a witty way with words that makes his deep familiarity with the subject less...creepy, more fun and funny.
This fictional universe has a lot of hot-button topics in it: Religion, climate change, religion, anti-technological bias, religion, and sheer unsurpassed-in-SF canon-guarding/gatekeeping/incel-friendly detail. Britt doesn't exactly dwell on the toxic parts of the fandom but neither does he ignore them. There are lots of worldbuilding details that he discusses and there are lots of ideas pinned under them, set in stories that are brimful of unapologetically partisan points of view. This is guaranteed to make some people go into full-on rages when their preferred interpretation of some detail is argued against.
This makes me sad, and reminds me of Kit Connor (of Heartstopper fame) feeling forced to reveal his private sexuality to stop muttered accusations of queerbaiting. As he said at the time this was occurring:
"I'm bi. Congrats for forcing an 18-year-old to out himself. I think some of you missed the point of the show. Bye."
(emphasis added to point up the disconnect between messages in the original and fannish gatekeeping)
That's the downside of passionate fandom. Anyone who has been in the Geek Culture world for more than A Minute has seen/been caught up in a pile-on when someone dares to be/say/assert an opinion or a take or even present a closely-reasoned analysis of that fandom's shared object that somehow rubs (some of) the fans the wrong way.
Quite a lot of people, myself included, stay away from fandoms for this reason. This book is a gentle, explanatory rebuke of our skittishness in the form of a reasonable geek-culture maven's informed, excited (almost besotted) explainer of just why this fandom came to be. Also a gentle chiding of the obsessive gatekeeping by some groups of fans. The book makes the point that Frank Herbert, and his son Brian after him, have created and are curating an immense, expansive Duneiverse of fiction, films, comics, and cosplay that contains literal multitudes. There is such astonishingly varied information in this fiction! Letting new players into the sandbox is Author Britt's aim in much of what he's doing...yet he never loses sight of the established fan's desire to see the whole Duneiverse from a wide-angled view...at least as far as the 2021 film...the 2024 one was filming as he wrote, so details and gossip were all embargoed.
I need to be reminded from time to time that fandom can be fun, and fascinating, and an all-around good experience. I hope this book will do the same for you, as a gift to yourself, and your other giftees
Rating: 4* of five
The Publisher Says: Geek-culture expert Ryan Britt takes us behind the pages and scenes of the science-fiction phenomenon Dune, charting the series' life from cult sci-fi novels to some of the most visionary movies of all time.
Using original, deep-access reporting, extensive research, and insightful commentary, The Spice Must Flow brings the true popularity of Dune out into the light for the very first time. With original interviews with the beloved actors and directors behind the films—including Timothée Chalamet, Kyle Maclachlan, Denis Villeneuve, Patrick Stewart, Rebecca Ferguson, Alec Newman, and many more—The Spice Must Flow also examines the far-reaching influence of Dune on art, music, politics, and, most notably, its status as the first ecological science-fiction story specifically concerned with climate change.
Britt skillfully and entertainingly guides readers through the history of how the Dune universe has unfolded, including the novel’s unlikely evolution from a failed piece of journalism about Oregon sand dunes into an epic science-fiction story, the way Herbert’s work inspired George Lucas, untold stories from the 1984 David Lynch film, the knife-edge balance between blockbuster hit and indie film Timothée Chalamet brings to the 2021 movie, and the exciting future of the franchise. Through a blend of narrative, oral history elements, and fascinating trivia, The Spice Must Flow is the new essential guide to the behind-the-scenes story of Dune. The fiction of Dune is deadly serious, but the real-life story of how it came into existence is full of wonder, surprises, and spice.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA NETGALLEY. THANK YOU.
My Review: What I said the book above wasn't this book is. It's by archgeek Ryan Britt of Luke Skywalker Can't Read: And Other Geeky Truths fame, so he's got the chops and knows both the beat and the drill. Plume's published three of his books now, so clearly he commands the geek-culture street cred to make it profitable. Plus he's got a witty way with words that makes his deep familiarity with the subject less...creepy, more fun and funny.
This fictional universe has a lot of hot-button topics in it: Religion, climate change, religion, anti-technological bias, religion, and sheer unsurpassed-in-SF canon-guarding/gatekeeping/incel-friendly detail. Britt doesn't exactly dwell on the toxic parts of the fandom but neither does he ignore them. There are lots of worldbuilding details that he discusses and there are lots of ideas pinned under them, set in stories that are brimful of unapologetically partisan points of view. This is guaranteed to make some people go into full-on rages when their preferred interpretation of some detail is argued against.
This makes me sad, and reminds me of Kit Connor (of Heartstopper fame) feeling forced to reveal his private sexuality to stop muttered accusations of queerbaiting. As he said at the time this was occurring:
"I'm bi. Congrats for forcing an 18-year-old to out himself. I think some of you missed the point of the show. Bye."
(emphasis added to point up the disconnect between messages in the original and fannish gatekeeping)
That's the downside of passionate fandom. Anyone who has been in the Geek Culture world for more than A Minute has seen/been caught up in a pile-on when someone dares to be/say/assert an opinion or a take or even present a closely-reasoned analysis of that fandom's shared object that somehow rubs (some of) the fans the wrong way.
Quite a lot of people, myself included, stay away from fandoms for this reason. This book is a gentle, explanatory rebuke of our skittishness in the form of a reasonable geek-culture maven's informed, excited (almost besotted) explainer of just why this fandom came to be. Also a gentle chiding of the obsessive gatekeeping by some groups of fans. The book makes the point that Frank Herbert, and his son Brian after him, have created and are curating an immense, expansive Duneiverse of fiction, films, comics, and cosplay that contains literal multitudes. There is such astonishingly varied information in this fiction! Letting new players into the sandbox is Author Britt's aim in much of what he's doing...yet he never loses sight of the established fan's desire to see the whole Duneiverse from a wide-angled view...at least as far as the 2021 film...the 2024 one was filming as he wrote, so details and gossip were all embargoed.
I need to be reminded from time to time that fandom can be fun, and fascinating, and an all-around good experience. I hope this book will do the same for you, as a gift to yourself, and your other giftees
176richardderus
>174 karenmarie: Happy Sunday, Horrible. I don't at all recommend you read any more of the Dune saga. The writing was never the point, but it gets incredibly wearing to read clunk after clank upon plonk after a while. Maybe Jenna would like >175 richardderus: better?
*smooch*
*smooch*
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>172 richardderus: - Why does 45 have cultists? That's where I completely lose the thread. He's repulsive, sleazy, and a complete sociopath. What makes that a good thing to anyone?
The only answer to that question, other than the obvious *I can't fathom*, is that he legitimizes, normalizes and validates scum of the earth behaviour for all those of that ilk and other such low life. What I will never understand is the so-called *intelligent* humans who drink that kool aid. Surely not ALL members of the republican party can be that ignorant and disgusting. I would never fall into the cesspool of that party, if I were American, but I do know that there are members of that party who have some values and some, if only a tad, intelligence. Yet still they support him, are afraid to call him out or turn their backs on him. Do they truly not see or understand that he will never be *good* for them or anyone because he cares for no one but himself? That by supporting him, they are creating a future for themselves that they will never truly benefit from. It's terrifying to witness, even from this distance.
The only answer to that question, other than the obvious *I can't fathom*, is that he legitimizes, normalizes and validates scum of the earth behaviour for all those of that ilk and other such low life. What I will never understand is the so-called *intelligent* humans who drink that kool aid. Surely not ALL members of the republican party can be that ignorant and disgusting. I would never fall into the cesspool of that party, if I were American, but I do know that there are members of that party who have some values and some, if only a tad, intelligence. Yet still they support him, are afraid to call him out or turn their backs on him. Do they truly not see or understand that he will never be *good* for them or anyone because he cares for no one but himself? That by supporting him, they are creating a future for themselves that they will never truly benefit from. It's terrifying to witness, even from this distance.
178richardderus
>177 jessibud2: I've spent my entire adulthood defining myself by being "not Republican" yet I could still see that their wrongheadedness had within it some granules of common sense. Once. That time, to my sorrow has gone. I wanted to get the Greens off the ground back in the 80s...nothing with the word "socialist" in it will fly in the US...banking on environmentalism to get the social programs I wanted, and worked for, and voted based on, into law.
Forty years on, the kids are about ready for it. *sigh* Like being an abolitionist in the 1790s. (Of course, now I've moved on to being an abolitionist when that's even unpopular among the kids. Still forty years in front, me.)
Forty years on, the kids are about ready for it. *sigh* Like being an abolitionist in the 1790s. (Of course, now I've moved on to being an abolitionist when that's even unpopular among the kids. Still forty years in front, me.)
179ArlieS
>177 jessibud2: It may be useful to think about the various ways humans commonly misperceive and misunderstand their experiences.
That tends to explain a lot of counter-factual beliefs.
Add a few virtues, like loyalty (to a group), presumption of good intent, etc. and you get a lot of people believing and doing self-destructive things.
Fortunately humans also come complete with extra circuitry for detecting cheating, as otherwise abusing other people's perceptual distortions and virtues would be even more of a winning strategy than it currently is.
And since this is LibraryThing, there's clearly a need for book references. My collection contains 6 books I've tagged with "human perceptual distortions". It probably contains others I've simply omitted to tag.
Daniel Kahneman Thinking, Fast and Slow
Hans Rosling Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World -- and Why Things are Better Than You Think
Dean Buonomano Brain Bugs: How the Brain's Flaws Shape Our Lives
Barry Schwartz The Paradox of Choice: why more is less
(social scientist)Keith Payne The broken ladder: how inequality affects the way we think, live, and die
Steven Pinker Rationality: what it is, why is seems scarce, why it matters
That tends to explain a lot of counter-factual beliefs.
Add a few virtues, like loyalty (to a group), presumption of good intent, etc. and you get a lot of people believing and doing self-destructive things.
Fortunately humans also come complete with extra circuitry for detecting cheating, as otherwise abusing other people's perceptual distortions and virtues would be even more of a winning strategy than it currently is.
And since this is LibraryThing, there's clearly a need for book references. My collection contains 6 books I've tagged with "human perceptual distortions". It probably contains others I've simply omitted to tag.
Daniel Kahneman Thinking, Fast and Slow
Hans Rosling Factfulness: Ten Reasons We're Wrong About the World -- and Why Things are Better Than You Think
Dean Buonomano Brain Bugs: How the Brain's Flaws Shape Our Lives
Barry Schwartz The Paradox of Choice: why more is less
(social scientist)Keith Payne The broken ladder: how inequality affects the way we think, live, and die
Steven Pinker Rationality: what it is, why is seems scarce, why it matters
180atozgrl
>176 richardderus: I read Dune way back when and remember very little of it. I did see the 2021 movie. I was just thinking I should go back and re-read it, as well as pick up the sequels, but from what you say, maybe the sequels aren't worth it? You certainly made The Worlds of Dune sound enticing!
181richardderus
As I predicted, Prophet Song won the Booker this evening.
182richardderus
>179 ArlieS: Great list, Arlie!
183richardderus
>180 atozgrl: The book series is pretty much the Superfan effort. If you aren't superultra in love with the story telling, maybe use the library?
I hope you get The Worlds of Dune before the new film hits. So much good stuff to add to the pleasure.
I hope you get The Worlds of Dune before the new film hits. So much good stuff to add to the pleasure.
184SilverWolf28
>155 richardderus: What series is that? It sounds interesting.
185richardderus
>184 SilverWolf28: H. Beam Piper's Lord Kalvan of Otherwhen as finished by John Carr
186atozgrl
>183 richardderus: Trying the library is a good suggestion. I don't need to keep buying too many books! The question always is, do they have everything in the series? I'll have to check.
OK then, onto the Wishlist with The Worlds of Dune. One more added to the ever expanding TBR list.
OK then, onto the Wishlist with The Worlds of Dune. One more added to the ever expanding TBR list.
188richardderus
107 Dolly Parton: 100 Remarkable Moments in an Extraordinary Life by Tracey Laird
Rating: 5* of five
The Publisher Says: Dolly Parton: 100 Remarkable Moments in an Extraordinary Life is a beautifully illustrated celebration of a timeless icon who has shaped what it means to be a superstar.
Explore 100 remarkable moments in the extraordinary life of Dolly Parton with this illustrated retrospective of her most amazing achievements.
Everyone’s favorite country music star and American icon, Dolly Parton, has accomplished incredible things in her life, from releasing the hit “I Will Always Love You” to creating a nonprofit for children. This beautiful volume will take you on a journey through Dolly’s life. Look back on her star roles, hit songs, and philanthropic aspirations, all accompanied by photos from throughout the years.
Some of the notable moments you will find include:
At 13 years old, Dolly graced the stage at The Grand Ole Opry, easily the most prestigious country venue in Nashville
Dolly’s start in show business: Dolly launched her first country album, Hello, I’m Dolly, in 1967
Dolly’s rise to superstardom: her famous song “I Will Always Love you” hits the country music charts
Classic movie moments from 9 to 5 to The Best Little Whorehouse in Texas to Steel Magnolias
The creation of her incredibly popular resort and theme park, Dollywood
Dolly’s philanthropy efforts and her $1 million donation for COVID vaccine research
And so much more!
Dolly Parton: 100 Remarkable Moments in an Extraordinary Life is a stunning tribute to your favorite all-American icon.
Each book in the 100 Remarkable Moments series is a stunning tribute to a different pop culture icon, visually chronicling 100 extraordinary events that define their legacy. Interviews with friends and colleagues, and over 100 magnificent photographs, combine to create an illustrated retrospective of achievements and contributions readers of all ages will enjoy.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: If you hate her music...think she's a crap actress...believe COVID vaccines are a hoax...you should still revere Miss Dolly. She created The Imagination Library, distributing books free to its 2.8 million (and counting) registered children in the US, the UK, Canada, Australia, and Ireland...with intentions to expand to even more countries.
I, for the record, think she never got the credit she deserved as an actress, love her music, am grateful as hell for the COVID vaccines I've gotten that she helped fund, and think the Imagination Library is the crowning achievement of a long lifetime of making a positive difference in the world.
Think that's just hot air? I am far from the only person to think very, very highly of Miss Dolly, and the interviews collected by Editor Tracey Laird (a professor of music at Agnes Scott College in Decatur, Georgia; the author or editor of four books, and has contributed a chapter on “Country Music and Television” to the collection The Oxford Handbook of Country Music) come from every moment of the past sixty years Miss Dolly's been in the public eye.
This is definitely an illustrated gift book, make no mistake; but it is also a wonderful, involving overview of the life and times of an American icon. The casual country-music fan, the Dolly superfan, and the serious reader of lives of businesswomen (though this is vastly less thorough on that subject than UNLIKELY ANGEL: The Songs of Dolly Parton (q.v.) will all find a lot to enjoy in this book. If I hadn't already read this book, I'd be asking for it for Yule this year.
A sample illustration for you.
Rating: 5* of five
The Publisher Says: Dolly Parton: 100 Remarkable Moments in an Extraordinary Life is a beautifully illustrated celebration of a timeless icon who has shaped what it means to be a superstar.
Explore 100 remarkable moments in the extraordinary life of Dolly Parton with this illustrated retrospective of her most amazing achievements.
Everyone’s favorite country music star and American icon, Dolly Parton, has accomplished incredible things in her life, from releasing the hit “I Will Always Love You” to creating a nonprofit for children. This beautiful volume will take you on a journey through Dolly’s life. Look back on her star roles, hit songs, and philanthropic aspirations, all accompanied by photos from throughout the years.
Some of the notable moments you will find include:
And so much more!
Dolly Parton: 100 Remarkable Moments in an Extraordinary Life is a stunning tribute to your favorite all-American icon.
Each book in the 100 Remarkable Moments series is a stunning tribute to a different pop culture icon, visually chronicling 100 extraordinary events that define their legacy. Interviews with friends and colleagues, and over 100 magnificent photographs, combine to create an illustrated retrospective of achievements and contributions readers of all ages will enjoy.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: If you hate her music...think she's a crap actress...believe COVID vaccines are a hoax...you should still revere Miss Dolly. She created The Imagination Library, distributing books free to its 2.8 million (and counting) registered children in the US, the UK, Canada, Australia, and Ireland...with intentions to expand to even more countries.
I, for the record, think she never got the credit she deserved as an actress, love her music, am grateful as hell for the COVID vaccines I've gotten that she helped fund, and think the Imagination Library is the crowning achievement of a long lifetime of making a positive difference in the world.
Think that's just hot air? I am far from the only person to think very, very highly of Miss Dolly, and the interviews collected by Editor Tracey Laird (a professor of music at Agnes Scott College in Decatur, Georgia; the author or editor of four books, and has contributed a chapter on “Country Music and Television” to the collection The Oxford Handbook of Country Music) come from every moment of the past sixty years Miss Dolly's been in the public eye.
This is definitely an illustrated gift book, make no mistake; but it is also a wonderful, involving overview of the life and times of an American icon. The casual country-music fan, the Dolly superfan, and the serious reader of lives of businesswomen (though this is vastly less thorough on that subject than UNLIKELY ANGEL: The Songs of Dolly Parton (q.v.) will all find a lot to enjoy in this book. If I hadn't already read this book, I'd be asking for it for Yule this year.
A sample illustration for you.
189richardderus
>186 atozgrl: ::nail-buff:: My aim is true, he boasted smugly.
I seriously doubt your library will have all ~27 of the books, but the first three will almost certainly be there as they are the famous ones. Enjoy the exploration!
I seriously doubt your library will have all ~27 of the books, but the first three will almost certainly be there as they are the famous ones. Enjoy the exploration!
190richardderus
>187 humouress: Thank you, Nina! I am, as always, happy to see you here.
191richardderus
108 The Who & Quadrophenia by Martin Popoff
Rating: 5* of five
The Publisher Says: The Who & Quadrophenia offers a generously illustrated deep dive into all aspects of one of the most popular rock albums of all time. Take a deep dive into one of the best-selling albums ever on the 50th anniversary of its release with this beautifully produced and authoritatively written slipcased edition.
Veteran rock critic Martin Popoff leaves no stone unturned in taking apart The Who’s generation-spanning masterpiece, Quadrophenia, while exploring each of the album’s 17 tracks and their themes of identity, anxiety, and mental health. Chapters cover:
The state of The Who as of 1973, including their role in Mod culture The recording sessions at famed Olympic Studios and the band’s own Battersea location, including techniques used Song-by-song studies of each album side, including analyses of lyrics and the guitars, drums, keyboards, and synthesizers employed by members Pete Townshend, Roger Daltrey, John Entwistle, and Keith Moon The 1979 motion picture based on the album’s song cycle The continent-hopping tours that supported the album
The rock group’s trajectory post-Quadrophenia, including notable albums and tours
Popoff also takes you on side journeys examining each band member, mod vs. rocker culture, the album’s famous graphic design, manager/producers Chris Stamp and Kit Lambert, Quadrophenia collectibles, and more.
There’s even a brief discography and complete LP tour dates.
Presented in a 10" × 10" slipcased book, The Who & Quadrophenia is illustrated with stunning performance and candid off-stage photography as well as rare memorabilia.
The result is a richly presented celebration and your ultimate tribute to the rock opera masterpiece.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: They're rising 80, Daltrey and Townshend, and yet The Who are still touring. People are still buying the album discussed here FIFTY YEARS LATER.
Getting old is as simple as just not dying, but nothing can prepare you for the weirdness of your youth being History to most of the world's population. My parents remembered the 1930s vividly and felt that the Second World War was a recent event my whole life. To me, of course, they were History. I knew somewhere in my logic circuits that, if I just didn't die (not a sure thing as a gay man in the early 1980s) it would happen to me, too.
But one of my most coveted albums, one I begged for all during 1973 (didn't get it), is now historically important enough to warrant an expensive, lavishly produced, slipcased hardcover book. That feels...weird, unsettling, a little shocking. Millions upon millions of us Boomers are left in the world sitting atop a vast pile of pilf to plonk down for gift items like this. We can afford, most of us, to give it to ourselves as well as to other old people.
Old People! Books about ROCK MUSIC for Old People!
The book itself is on-brand for Author Popoff, he of Rush: The Illustrated History and Queen: Album by Album and Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers: The Rise of Motörhead among others. He does an admirable job of delving into the songs, the ideas in, the people behind, and the legacy of this astoundingly influential and important album, treating it with the historian/fan's eye that it as a concept and as an item can easily support. The photographic documentation of the Who began before this album was released, but it definitely makrked a sea change in the intensity and the completeness of that documentation.
The table of contents, as you see above, is a beautiful design. It's also demonstrating Author Popoff's characteristic completeness of view. His analyses, and takes on the events of the day, his credibility as a rock writer with publication credits in the likes of Revolver, Guitar World, Goldmine, and Record Collector assures the fussy reader of an informed, well-presented opinion. Let me end with a page spread, which (let's be honest when it's just us here) is the real reason you'll buy the book whether for yourself or someone you really, really want to spoil:
Rating: 5* of five
The Publisher Says: The Who & Quadrophenia offers a generously illustrated deep dive into all aspects of one of the most popular rock albums of all time. Take a deep dive into one of the best-selling albums ever on the 50th anniversary of its release with this beautifully produced and authoritatively written slipcased edition.
Veteran rock critic Martin Popoff leaves no stone unturned in taking apart The Who’s generation-spanning masterpiece, Quadrophenia, while exploring each of the album’s 17 tracks and their themes of identity, anxiety, and mental health. Chapters cover:
Popoff also takes you on side journeys examining each band member, mod vs. rocker culture, the album’s famous graphic design, manager/producers Chris Stamp and Kit Lambert, Quadrophenia collectibles, and more.
There’s even a brief discography and complete LP tour dates.
Presented in a 10" × 10" slipcased book, The Who & Quadrophenia is illustrated with stunning performance and candid off-stage photography as well as rare memorabilia.
The result is a richly presented celebration and your ultimate tribute to the rock opera masterpiece.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: They're rising 80, Daltrey and Townshend, and yet The Who are still touring. People are still buying the album discussed here FIFTY YEARS LATER.
Getting old is as simple as just not dying, but nothing can prepare you for the weirdness of your youth being History to most of the world's population. My parents remembered the 1930s vividly and felt that the Second World War was a recent event my whole life. To me, of course, they were History. I knew somewhere in my logic circuits that, if I just didn't die (not a sure thing as a gay man in the early 1980s) it would happen to me, too.
But one of my most coveted albums, one I begged for all during 1973 (didn't get it), is now historically important enough to warrant an expensive, lavishly produced, slipcased hardcover book. That feels...weird, unsettling, a little shocking. Millions upon millions of us Boomers are left in the world sitting atop a vast pile of pilf to plonk down for gift items like this. We can afford, most of us, to give it to ourselves as well as to other old people.
Old People! Books about ROCK MUSIC for Old People!
The book itself is on-brand for Author Popoff, he of Rush: The Illustrated History and Queen: Album by Album and Beer Drinkers and Hell Raisers: The Rise of Motörhead among others. He does an admirable job of delving into the songs, the ideas in, the people behind, and the legacy of this astoundingly influential and important album, treating it with the historian/fan's eye that it as a concept and as an item can easily support. The photographic documentation of the Who began before this album was released, but it definitely makrked a sea change in the intensity and the completeness of that documentation.
The table of contents, as you see above, is a beautiful design. It's also demonstrating Author Popoff's characteristic completeness of view. His analyses, and takes on the events of the day, his credibility as a rock writer with publication credits in the likes of Revolver, Guitar World, Goldmine, and Record Collector assures the fussy reader of an informed, well-presented opinion. Let me end with a page spread, which (let's be honest when it's just us here) is the real reason you'll buy the book whether for yourself or someone you really, really want to spoil:
192karenmarie
‘Morning, RDear! Happy Monday to you.
>176 richardderus: - >173 richardderus: or >175 richardderus:.
>177 jessibud2: and >178 richardderus: Friend Karen in Montana assures me that the Gang of Psychos US Senator and his wife, who live ‘next door’ – i.e., live a mile down the road – are good neighbors, meaning that they all help one another when needed, but Karen quails at how awful Daines is politically. I don't see how he can look at himself in the mirror. He is power hungry and ambitious. Not a good look, especially for someone who says he’s Christian.
>184 SilverWolf28: and >185 richardderus: Should have asked, but didn’t, but realistically, I won’t ever search it out.
>188 richardderus: I loved Parton in Steel Magnolias and 9 to 5. She’s a good actress and a genuinely good woman whose generosity is from the heart.
*smooch*
>176 richardderus: - >173 richardderus: or >175 richardderus:.
>177 jessibud2: and >178 richardderus: Friend Karen in Montana assures me that the Gang of Psychos US Senator and his wife, who live ‘next door’ – i.e., live a mile down the road – are good neighbors, meaning that they all help one another when needed, but Karen quails at how awful Daines is politically. I don't see how he can look at himself in the mirror. He is power hungry and ambitious. Not a good look, especially for someone who says he’s Christian.
>184 SilverWolf28: and >185 richardderus: Should have asked, but didn’t, but realistically, I won’t ever search it out.
>188 richardderus: I loved Parton in Steel Magnolias and 9 to 5. She’s a good actress and a genuinely good woman whose generosity is from the heart.
*smooch*
193SilverWolf28
>185 richardderus: Thanks!
194richardderus
>192 karenmarie: New-Sunday orisons, Horrible. Is Jenna a serious-dive-level fan of Dune? That's what >175 richardderus: is offering. Really getting into the machinations and social stuff.
Being in the GOP and being A Christian are equivalents in awfulness to me.
Miss Dolly's amazing. It is less and less about what she *does* for me, more and more about who she *is* that impresses me.
I don't think you would like the Kalvan books, TBH. They are very high-context reads and never on sale or free-to-read because he knows he has the audience power to do that.
*smooch*
Being in the GOP and being A Christian are equivalents in awfulness to me.
Miss Dolly's amazing. It is less and less about what she *does* for me, more and more about who she *is* that impresses me.
I don't think you would like the Kalvan books, TBH. They are very high-context reads and never on sale or free-to-read because he knows he has the audience power to do that.
*smooch*
195alcottacre
>173 richardderus: I am definitely not an " aficionado of the world." I thought Dune was boring and never went beyond the first book, so I am giving that one a pass. Thanks for the review in any case, RD.
>175 richardderus: Passing on that one too.
>181 richardderus: I was extremely happy about that!
>188 richardderus: Adding that one to the BlackHole! Although I am not a country music fan, I am a fan of Dolly Parton (as a person). Thanks for bringing the book to my attention, RD!
>191 richardderus: I think that one would probably go over my head completely. I know pretty much nothing about popular music - all of Paul's suggestions go over my head too.
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD!
>175 richardderus: Passing on that one too.
>181 richardderus: I was extremely happy about that!
>188 richardderus: Adding that one to the BlackHole! Although I am not a country music fan, I am a fan of Dolly Parton (as a person). Thanks for bringing the book to my attention, RD!
>191 richardderus: I think that one would probably go over my head completely. I know pretty much nothing about popular music - all of Paul's suggestions go over my head too.
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD!
196RebaRelishesReading
"I, for the record, think she never got the credit she deserved as an actress, love her music, am grateful as hell for the COVID vaccines I've gotten that she helped fund, and think the Imagination Library is the crowning achievement of a long lifetime of making a positive difference in the world." - right you are Richard!! I'm not a big country-western fan but there is so much quality behind her facade that I just love her
197richardderus
>195 alcottacre: I think you will really take to the Dolly book, Stasia. She is the kind of person we all love to hear about, and her life story really reads like a movie plot.
You are wise to pass on the Dune books as they'd be wasted eyeblinks...nothing to offer you except some insights into a geek culture I think you'd find tedious. The almost-80-year-old men in The Who would LOVE you for calling their music "popular"!
*smooch*
You are wise to pass on the Dune books as they'd be wasted eyeblinks...nothing to offer you except some insights into a geek culture I think you'd find tedious. The almost-80-year-old men in The Who would LOVE you for calling their music "popular"!
*smooch*
198richardderus
109 In the Groove: The Vinyl Record and Turntable Revolution by Various Authors (listed below)
Rating: 5* of five
The Publisher Says: Celebrate the 75th anniversary of the first commercial LP with this authoritative, highly illustrated, and multi-faceted look at the history and culture of vinyl record collecting and turntables.
Vinyl records continue to be hot commodities among everyone from obsessive audiophiles to newbie collectors getting their toes wet. In the Groove: The Vinyl Record and Turntable Revolution is the book for both—and everyone in between. Published to mark the 75th year since the introduction of the commercial LP, In the Groove is written by a roster of well-known music journalists, vinyl junkies, and stereophiles teaming up to present a gorgeous tribute to the vinyl LP and the culture it has spawned:
Richie Unterberger explores the history of the 33 1/3 LP, including its predecessor, the 78rpm record, the first commercial LPs, the pressing process, stereo vs. mono, and formats like the 7-inch/45rpm record.
Gillian Gaar tackles those temples to the turntable: record stores. Inside, she examines the history of LP merchandising everywhere from department stores to headshops, Record Store Day, the artist in-store appearance, and swap meets and record shows.
Martin Popoff pens a paean to the physical object itself, discussing the advent of the sleeve, the great LP covers, famous sleeve designers, liner notes and packaging, colored vinyl, and more.
Matt Anniss looks at the collecting hobby and topics like obsessive collectors, what makes a great listening space, playing and caring for vinyl, collecting and vinyl in DJ and hip-hop cultures, and the mixtape phenomenon.
Ken Micallef, a top hifi journalist, has the gearheads covered with explanations of turntables from portables to audiophile-quality units, the workings and parts of a turntable from motors and tonearms to plinths and cartridges, and the components of a system.
In the Groove is illustrated throughout with images of gear, listening spaces, record stores, sleeve art, and celebrities and musicians enjoying the vinyl hobby through the decades. Brief, entertaining sidebars cover topics like famous labels from Stax to Sub Pop, famous EPs, well-known record stores, milestone LP covers, a beginner’s guide to grading, and formats that have challenged the supremacy of the LP, including 8-track, reel-to-reel, and cassette.
Feel the groove with this effervescent ode to vinyl.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: Collecting vinyl records was about listening to the recordings to me, back when they were ubiquitous, and had mass-market stores dedicated to their sale. There have always been people who collected the objects as objects but, back in the 1970s when I worked in a record store, I was even then not tempted to join their ranks.
Foley's records looked a lot like this in 1979
All that said, I was not the most likely person to read this book cover to cover, or drool over the photos in it. It seemed to me to be one of those love-it-or-leave-it things. I was surprised at how piercingly sweet the nostalgia for that wonderful feeling of being surrounded by things I had no idea what they were about, and having the chance to discover whole new-to-me areas of music, would be. The infrastructure of turntables, speakers, speaker wires, amplifiers, needles!...so many needles...came rushing back. It was a lovely, immersive experience.
The record stores the authors discuss were mostly familiar as names to me. I loved my time in the world of vinyl because I wanted the music in my ears. The vinyl collectors will, I feel sure, be just as transported just for other reasons.
Enjoy some lovely page spreads below.
The collector, the older relative, the nostalgic Boomer are all likely to enjoy the read, and the look, of this book.
Rating: 5* of five
The Publisher Says: Celebrate the 75th anniversary of the first commercial LP with this authoritative, highly illustrated, and multi-faceted look at the history and culture of vinyl record collecting and turntables.
Vinyl records continue to be hot commodities among everyone from obsessive audiophiles to newbie collectors getting their toes wet. In the Groove: The Vinyl Record and Turntable Revolution is the book for both—and everyone in between. Published to mark the 75th year since the introduction of the commercial LP, In the Groove is written by a roster of well-known music journalists, vinyl junkies, and stereophiles teaming up to present a gorgeous tribute to the vinyl LP and the culture it has spawned:
Richie Unterberger explores the history of the 33 1/3 LP, including its predecessor, the 78rpm record, the first commercial LPs, the pressing process, stereo vs. mono, and formats like the 7-inch/45rpm record.
Gillian Gaar tackles those temples to the turntable: record stores. Inside, she examines the history of LP merchandising everywhere from department stores to headshops, Record Store Day, the artist in-store appearance, and swap meets and record shows.
Martin Popoff pens a paean to the physical object itself, discussing the advent of the sleeve, the great LP covers, famous sleeve designers, liner notes and packaging, colored vinyl, and more.
Matt Anniss looks at the collecting hobby and topics like obsessive collectors, what makes a great listening space, playing and caring for vinyl, collecting and vinyl in DJ and hip-hop cultures, and the mixtape phenomenon.
Ken Micallef, a top hifi journalist, has the gearheads covered with explanations of turntables from portables to audiophile-quality units, the workings and parts of a turntable from motors and tonearms to plinths and cartridges, and the components of a system.
In the Groove is illustrated throughout with images of gear, listening spaces, record stores, sleeve art, and celebrities and musicians enjoying the vinyl hobby through the decades. Brief, entertaining sidebars cover topics like famous labels from Stax to Sub Pop, famous EPs, well-known record stores, milestone LP covers, a beginner’s guide to grading, and formats that have challenged the supremacy of the LP, including 8-track, reel-to-reel, and cassette.
Feel the groove with this effervescent ode to vinyl.
I RECEIVED A DRC FROM THE PUBLISHER VIA EDELWEISS+. THANK YOU.
My Review: Collecting vinyl records was about listening to the recordings to me, back when they were ubiquitous, and had mass-market stores dedicated to their sale. There have always been people who collected the objects as objects but, back in the 1970s when I worked in a record store, I was even then not tempted to join their ranks.
Foley's records looked a lot like this in 1979
All that said, I was not the most likely person to read this book cover to cover, or drool over the photos in it. It seemed to me to be one of those love-it-or-leave-it things. I was surprised at how piercingly sweet the nostalgia for that wonderful feeling of being surrounded by things I had no idea what they were about, and having the chance to discover whole new-to-me areas of music, would be. The infrastructure of turntables, speakers, speaker wires, amplifiers, needles!...so many needles...came rushing back. It was a lovely, immersive experience.
The record stores the authors discuss were mostly familiar as names to me. I loved my time in the world of vinyl because I wanted the music in my ears. The vinyl collectors will, I feel sure, be just as transported just for other reasons.
Enjoy some lovely page spreads below.
The collector, the older relative, the nostalgic Boomer are all likely to enjoy the read, and the look, of this book.
199richardderus
>196 RebaRelishesReading: I don't like country much either, Reba, with a few exceptions, and Miss Dolly's only one because I love *her* and therefore support her every way I have to do so.
Lovely to see you! *smooch*
Lovely to see you! *smooch*
200benitastrnad
Out in Kansas we call knitted winter hats "stocking caps or stocking hats." It doesn't matter if it is a Beanie (which I thought was a term for a stocking hat that originated in Boston, MA), a toque (which is a term for a stocking hat that came from Canada - the Voyageurs and the knitted cap that they wore), or a bobble hat (a term that orginated in merry old England). Even Santa Claus wore a stocking hat - according to Kansans.
When I moved to Alabama I was caught off-guard several times when people down there called a stocking hat a tobogganer. Lately, I have heard that term shortened to 'Boggener. Another name for them that I have heard more in the Northeastern U.S., and seen used in knitting pattern books is "watch cap."
When I moved to Alabama I was caught off-guard several times when people down there called a stocking hat a tobogganer. Lately, I have heard that term shortened to 'Boggener. Another name for them that I have heard more in the Northeastern U.S., and seen used in knitting pattern books is "watch cap."
201richardderus
>200 benitastrnad: I have never once heard the term "tobogganer" anywhere I've ever lived. Weird how many names these things have, though "watch cap" is one I haven't heard since the last time I talked to one of the really old ladies here.
Happy to see you, Benita!
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My #Booksgiving blogfest of reviews, despite the fact that I've been working on them since JUNE, is proving to be harder to schedule than I expected. This Wednesday just became Juvenile & YA day. Then Thursday became Enviromental/Green/Nature day. Kinda flows from the young person day in my mind. Arty stuff on Friday? Maybe...I've got years worth of stuff tagged #Booksgiving, so there's no shortage of ideas to be had. Just the organizing that's harder for me now.
Happy to see you, Benita!
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My #Booksgiving blogfest of reviews, despite the fact that I've been working on them since JUNE, is proving to be harder to schedule than I expected. This Wednesday just became Juvenile & YA day. Then Thursday became Enviromental/Green/Nature day. Kinda flows from the young person day in my mind. Arty stuff on Friday? Maybe...I've got years worth of stuff tagged #Booksgiving, so there's no shortage of ideas to be had. Just the organizing that's harder for me now.
202laytonwoman3rd
>201 richardderus: My husband is not a "really old lady", but he has a woolen knitted watch cap...standard issue to Coast Guardsmen in the 1970s, apparently. It hasn't fit his head since they let him grow his hair out, though.
Charles Emerson Winchester, III (of Bahstun and Cape Cod) referred to this
as his "toboggan cap".
Charles Emerson Winchester, III (of Bahstun and Cape Cod) referred to this
as his "toboggan cap".203richardderus
>202 laytonwoman3rd: He isn't a really old lady? Why do you kee him around then, Linda3rd?
Come to think on it, that's a very logical explanation why the older folk around the Northeast call them watch caps. There woulda been lots more Coast Guardsmen around before the automation of lighthouses and general reduction of the military footprint in this part of the country in the 1980s.
I probably ought to know who that guy is, but I don't, sorry.
Come to think on it, that's a very logical explanation why the older folk around the Northeast call them watch caps. There woulda been lots more Coast Guardsmen around before the automation of lighthouses and general reduction of the military footprint in this part of the country in the 1980s.
I probably ought to know who that guy is, but I don't, sorry.
204karenmarie
Hi RD! Happy Tuesday to you.
>185 richardderus: First one’s $.99 for Kindle, second one’s on Kindle Unlimited or $2.99, the rest $8.49 or more. Hardcover and paperback are ridiculously expensive. I just made a note to check out our SF/fantasy section for next book sale to see if we have any that snuck through and should be up-priced.
>198 richardderus: We have hundreds of vinyl albums upstairs, no serious sound system to listen to them on although we have a very good portable turntable we got Jenna. It’s currently upstairs in the Media Room. Sigh.
>200 benitastrnad: I’ve also heard it called simply a toboggan.
>202 laytonwoman3rd: and >203 richardderus: TV show M*A*S*H.
*smooch*
>185 richardderus: First one’s $.99 for Kindle, second one’s on Kindle Unlimited or $2.99, the rest $8.49 or more. Hardcover and paperback are ridiculously expensive. I just made a note to check out our SF/fantasy section for next book sale to see if we have any that snuck through and should be up-priced.
>198 richardderus: We have hundreds of vinyl albums upstairs, no serious sound system to listen to them on although we have a very good portable turntable we got Jenna. It’s currently upstairs in the Media Room. Sigh.
>200 benitastrnad: I’ve also heard it called simply a toboggan.
>202 laytonwoman3rd: and >203 richardderus: TV show M*A*S*H.
*smooch*
205richardderus
>204 karenmarie: The later ones of the Kalvan series are the ones where Carr has full copyright so he keeps the prices up...he scrapes Alibris and Paperback Swap the like and requests or buys copies that are "too cheap" and resells them more to his liking. I'm glad he's had to cheapen the Kindle edition for the second one! It was $8.49 for years.
It makes me a little sad to think of all the vinyl I've left in my wake being basically unplayable except by hobbyists. Time marches over the graves of our youths, no?
Toboggan! In a place where one can almost never actually toboggan! (A truly terrifying experience, let me tell you.)
M*A*S*H was one of the reasons I stopped watching TV in 1974. After the Watergate hearings I realized the "entertainment" I was getting from those shows was negligible compared to the information I needed to pack into my head in order to make sense of my world. Reading became my obsessive focus and the library my sacred space for the rest of the 1970s and into the 1990s. I inherited a TV in 1992, and discovered Star Trek: The Next Generation, so started watching again. Never much, usually just to know what the hell people were talking about...much like today.
*smooch*
It makes me a little sad to think of all the vinyl I've left in my wake being basically unplayable except by hobbyists. Time marches over the graves of our youths, no?
Toboggan! In a place where one can almost never actually toboggan! (A truly terrifying experience, let me tell you.)
M*A*S*H was one of the reasons I stopped watching TV in 1974. After the Watergate hearings I realized the "entertainment" I was getting from those shows was negligible compared to the information I needed to pack into my head in order to make sense of my world. Reading became my obsessive focus and the library my sacred space for the rest of the 1970s and into the 1990s. I inherited a TV in 1992, and discovered Star Trek: The Next Generation, so started watching again. Never much, usually just to know what the hell people were talking about...much like today.
*smooch*
207msf59
Hey, RD. I am back and trying to make the rounds, albeit at a snail's pace. I hope you are doing well. I see that you are reading, per usual, some interesting books. Who doesn't love Dolly Parton? An absolute American treasure. I just saw that she just surpassed the 2 million mark on donating children's books. Wow.
The WHO book also sounds interesting, although Quadrophenia was never a favorite of mine, that belongs to Who's Next.
When I was picking up my "kids" this AM, it was 15F. WTH? At least I am not having to trudge around in it for several hours. Whew!
The WHO book also sounds interesting, although Quadrophenia was never a favorite of mine, that belongs to Who's Next.
When I was picking up my "kids" this AM, it was 15F. WTH? At least I am not having to trudge around in it for several hours. Whew!
208LizzieD
Good morning, Richard. I can't catch up although I tried.
The hat's a toboggan here. I thought a beanie was the little cloth hat with the suggestion of a brim that college freshmen were forced to wear long ago.
*smooch*
(I think I need to have a session with Nine to Five.)
The hat's a toboggan here. I thought a beanie was the little cloth hat with the suggestion of a brim that college freshmen were forced to wear long ago.
*smooch*
(I think I need to have a session with Nine to Five.)
209humouress
>201 richardderus: I recently (in the last few months) came across the term 'toboggan' as headwear in a book. I remember remarking in my review that it seemed strange to put a sled on your head to keep it warm. If we came across such things (they weren't the height of fashion when I was growing up) when I lived in England, I think we called them ski hats or bobble hats ... since I have no need for such things now, I can no longer remember. I've heard my Aussie cousins refer to 'beanies' but I couldn't tell you what one looks like.
210laytonwoman3rd
>208 LizzieD: "I thought a beanie was the little cloth hat with the suggestion of a brim that college freshmen were forced to wear long ago." Yes! And I still have mine.
>203 richardderus: "Why do you keep him around then" Well, among other things, he can keep a full sound system functional so we can continue to listen to our vinyl and CD collections; he can make repairs when the little plastic elbows in the piano crack and crumble; he knows how to select all sorts of electronics, connect computers to a home network etc.; he loves my cooking; he's a financial wizard AND he's cute as the dickens. So...
>203 richardderus: "Why do you keep him around then" Well, among other things, he can keep a full sound system functional so we can continue to listen to our vinyl and CD collections; he can make repairs when the little plastic elbows in the piano crack and crumble; he knows how to select all sorts of electronics, connect computers to a home network etc.; he loves my cooking; he's a financial wizard AND he's cute as the dickens. So...
211alcottacre
>198 richardderus: That one appeals to me. I still have my record collection from when I was younger. Thanks for the recommendation, RD!
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD
((Hugs)) and **smooches** for today, RD
212benitastrnad
>210 laytonwoman3rd:
I love those reasons for keeping the "really old lady" around. They sound like very good reasons to me, as I have trouble doing all of that. And making repairs on the little plastic elbows in the piano are way beyond me.
I love those reasons for keeping the "really old lady" around. They sound like very good reasons to me, as I have trouble doing all of that. And making repairs on the little plastic elbows in the piano are way beyond me.
214richardderus
>207 msf59: Lunch proved to be complicated, Mark, so I am just now getting back to my thread. I can see the bus would be less bone-chilling than the old postiemobile.
The Dolly book is a treasure! I hope you can source a copy. Be as slow as you need to get around, after all we'll all still be here.
Enjoy the beautiful winter day.
The Dolly book is a treasure! I hope you can source a copy. Be as slow as you need to get around, after all we'll all still be here.
Enjoy the beautiful winter day.
215richardderus
>208 LizzieD: 9 to 5 will give you such a chuckle! I hope it makes it onto a screen near you soon.
That definition of a beanie is why it's used as an insult to yarmulke-wearing Jews.
Keep on keepin' on, Peggy me lurve. *smooch*
That definition of a beanie is why it's used as an insult to yarmulke-wearing Jews.
Keep on keepin' on, Peggy me lurve. *smooch*
216richardderus
>209 humouress: I'm guessing the Aussie beanie is the tuque/toboggan thing. I suppose I could go ask one of the Aussies I know...might do that yet, but I'd have to remember.
No guarantees, then, but still thinking.
No guarantees, then, but still thinking.
217richardderus
>210 laytonwoman3rd: I suppose, all things considered, the pros outweigh the con, then. I don't know anything about piano innards...are these things prone to breakage?
218richardderus
>211 alcottacre: It's really cool, Stasia, but it's also a cool $40. THINK of how many Kindlebooks on sale that would get you!
*smooch*
*smooch*
219richardderus
>212 benitastrnad: LOL
Did you know pianos had little plastic elbows before today, Benita? I didn't....
Did you know pianos had little plastic elbows before today, Benita? I didn't....
220ArlieS
>191 richardderus: As a fellow old person (TM) I second this. Aspects of "history" seem to me to have happened just yesterday; things my grandparent's recalled still seem like they are "in living memory". They were both born in 1902, so somewhat more than a century seems "recent" to me. Meanwhile, plenty of young people proudly announce "no one remembers that" for things I clearly remember. And worse, they tell just-so stories about the unremembered-by-them past, that would be have been laughed off as blatant rubbish by the people who lived through it. (A certain Canadian politician blew a lot of hot air about Canada's participation in World War I, as part of its centennial anniversary. My father's off-hand recollections of his father's comments primed me to disbelieve, and historians gave me the details. Wall to wall rubbish, but I bet the politician's version is now being taught in Canadian K12 schools...)
>194 richardderus: There's a huge range among Christians, both in what they do and in what they believe. Some of them believe their God wants them doing things that actually seem good to me; some of them do good themselves, whether motivated by what they believe God wants or in spite of it. Sadly, of course, the loudest ones in the US rarely seem to belong in either category.
>194 richardderus: There's a huge range among Christians, both in what they do and in what they believe. Some of them believe their God wants them doing things that actually seem good to me; some of them do good themselves, whether motivated by what they believe God wants or in spite of it. Sadly, of course, the loudest ones in the US rarely seem to belong in either category.
221richardderus
>220 ArlieS: I've corrected any number of oddball "ideas" my YGC had about space exploration. The quite appalling readiness of people in general to believe absurdities (a favorite of mine is that the Three Gorges Dam in China caused the Earth's orbit to wobble. No. Really) that have no evidence anywhere to back them up (or the historical farrago about Elagabalus having gender-reassignment surgery, though they put it in cruder terms, and surviving!) honestly just...stuns me.
Spectra of belief are always and forever the norm in all areas of human knowledge and opinion. The fact is, you put your name to something, you own your piece of it for good and/or ill. I don't belong to the Democratic Party because I will not sign my name to their venal and corrupt dealings with billionaires. I vote for 'em, I donate money to the candidates most likely to unseat GOP idiot bastards, but joining their merry band of plutocrats? Perish forbid!
Spectra of belief are always and forever the norm in all areas of human knowledge and opinion. The fact is, you put your name to something, you own your piece of it for good and/or ill. I don't belong to the Democratic Party because I will not sign my name to their venal and corrupt dealings with billionaires. I vote for 'em, I donate money to the candidates most likely to unseat GOP idiot bastards, but joining their merry band of plutocrats? Perish forbid!
222laytonwoman3rd
>217 richardderus:, >219 richardderus: Spinet pianos made in the 50s and 60s, like mine, have those plastic parts at the base of the hammer mechanism.
That old plastic is prone to getting dry and brittle. When one breaks, you have a dead key. Apparently the newer stuff he uses to replace them is expected to last longer, but I doubt if it will be something I can ever attest to, since even the inferior stuff has lasted over 60 years in this particular piano.
That old plastic is prone to getting dry and brittle. When one breaks, you have a dead key. Apparently the newer stuff he uses to replace them is expected to last longer, but I doubt if it will be something I can ever attest to, since even the inferior stuff has lasted over 60 years in this particular piano.
223richardderus
>222 laytonwoman3rd: Sixty years, in the life of a piano, really is not that great...but as we are not pianos, it sure as heck works.
224laytonwoman3rd
>223 richardderus: Yeah, I neither expect or desire to stick around for the next 60 years...even my daughter may not hang on to the piano that long. (She has asserted her right to inherit it, not that there was anyone else in line.)
