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March Community List: Science Fiction by Women

1megbmore
Mar 1, 2021, 3:34 pm

Each month I am going to be a site-wide community list. For March, the topic is Science Fiction by Women. I figured this group would have a lot of books to add to the list!

2tardis
Mar 1, 2021, 4:34 pm

Neat! I can see I'm going to be adding to my library holds list!

3igorken
Mar 1, 2021, 4:48 pm

I shouldn't be making fun of people's typos, but I am imagining Meg dressed in a dress that looks like a blackboard and all of us scribbling our suggestions on to her. Power to you, Meg, be the list you want to be ;)

Anyhow before I let myself out, I do think this is a nice list. I've recently realized my reading habits heavily favour male authors (and it's probably worse in sf), so I can do with a few pointers.

4paradoxosalpha
Editado: Mar 8, 2021, 12:56 pm

This is a great idea. I think the Science Fiction Fans group could probably generate our own new community list worth contributing to and looking at each month, with topics relating to subgenera, themes, authors, and so on:

First Contact Stories
SF translated to English
Mars!
Space Opera
Sword and Planet
Cyberpunk
Dying Earths
Time Travel

etc., etc.

5Maddz
Mar 1, 2021, 5:39 pm

>3 igorken: Of course, a lot of the science fiction I purchased in the 1980s and on, was by women.

6SilverWolf28
Editado: Mar 1, 2021, 9:29 pm

The Murderbot series by Martha Wells is really good.

8SChant
Editado: Mar 3, 2021, 4:42 am

Try the Otherwise award site (formerly Tiptree award). Not all works are by women, but most of them are. https://otherwiseaward.org/

9dustydigger
Editado: Mar 2, 2021, 7:44 am

I just dont dare get involved with this list,I have too much on my TBR already,(I will go crazy trying to squeeze in even more reads to my already insane TBR if I even look at the lists lol) but WWEnd has several great lists on this topic.eg
http://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_women_winners.asp
http://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_200SFBooksByWomen.asp
http://www.worldswithoutend.com/lists_SFbyWomen.asp

10SeanNicholls
Mar 2, 2021, 7:41 am

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11megbmore
Mar 2, 2021, 7:58 am

>3 igorken: Ha ha--I'm not even going to fix it. I am the list and the list is me!

12igorken
Mar 2, 2021, 3:19 pm

>7 iansales: The short fiction list looks very interesting. If only there was a way I could add them all to my e-reader with a single click. Even though you added the source references, I'm not likely to start chasing them down individually...

13iansales
Mar 3, 2021, 2:15 am

>12 igorken: What you mean is, if only someone had turned it into an anthology :-) There is a Mammoth Book of SF by Women anthology, which is available as an ebook. And quite cheap too, at the moment.

14karenb
Editado: Mar 3, 2021, 4:04 am

Note: Some of the authors are nonbinary (but some of those have identified as female in the past). FYI.

(AsyouknowBo, gender isn't really just M/F.)

15Aquila
Mar 3, 2021, 5:21 am

At least one book has been removed for having a non-binary author. Others haven't. I feel like changing the list to Women and NB might be more useful than removing.

Comparing the list with the "science fiction"+"woman authors" tagmash - the highest book in the tagmash that isn't on the list is Grass.

There are other Tepper books on the list (and since most people have only put 2-3 books by any author on the list), so the highest book where the author has no other books on the list is The Giver.

16andyl
Mar 3, 2021, 6:13 am

>15 Aquila:

Hmm who has been removed / down voted?

Yeah I only tend to add one or two works by a particular author.

>1 megbmore:

I certainly hope that this endeavour is made the most of with a prominent post / blog post highlighting the number of different authors etc. and I hope it becomes a regular thing.

17aspirit
Editado: Mar 3, 2021, 1:16 pm

>16 andyl: K.B. Wagers is an author who has been downvoted and removed from the list. They've previously corrected people for adding them to a list of women who write science fiction.

I've added more works and will keep going through the month. Does the group have a general preference regarding book series: first book vs. collection?

18andyl
Editado: Mar 3, 2021, 1:10 pm

Mensagem removida pelo autor.

19tardis
Mar 3, 2021, 1:05 pm

I was the one who added K.B. Wagers in the first place, just going off their picture. I didn't know they'd asked to be removed from lists of women in SF in the past. A fine author, though. Maybe in future we can have a list of NB authors?

>17 aspirit: I've been adding only first book in a series, because it's my preference to read series in order starting with the first book and I feel like that's what serves most people best, too. I have no objection to people listing other books in the same series, but it is making the list a bit unwieldy.

20Maddz
Mar 3, 2021, 1:13 pm

Perhaps there's a case for SF series written by women? Let's face it, I could easily add around 20 books by C J Cherryh alone.

21tardis
Mar 3, 2021, 2:01 pm

Yikes! Just realized nobody put Zenna Henderson on the list yet! Had to fix that.

22AnnieMod
Mar 3, 2021, 2:41 pm

>20 Maddz:

Just 20? You do not like the Alliance-Union novels and the standalones or something? :)

23Maddz
Mar 3, 2021, 2:49 pm

>22 AnnieMod: Don't forget half her output is fantasy, and I don't own the Foreigner series any more (I didn't actually enjoy the first 3 enough to continue).

I own (in one format or another) pretty well all the Alliance-Union series (which looks like it needs attention wrt omnibuses).

24AnnieMod
Mar 3, 2021, 2:53 pm

>23 Maddz: I am not but just Foreigner is 21 books and definitely SF (thus me asking about the rest of her SF - A-U is well into the 30s by now) ;)

25igorken
Mar 3, 2021, 2:54 pm

>13 iansales: Well, yes. Unfortunately the Mammoth Book of SF by Women is rated and reviewed quite poorly though...

I've just realized I've actually got a fair few unread sf books by female authors that I obtained from various e-book bundles. Maybe I should give one of those a go soon.

26lorax
Mar 3, 2021, 3:24 pm

Aquila (#15):

I feel like changing the list to Women and NB might be more useful than removing.


I'd rather see a separate list for NB authors. Several NB people have mentioned that "women and non-binary" groups and lists can make it seem like NB people are considered "women lite". The intention from the binary people creating these lists is usually good - it's basically a way of saying "not men" - but that particular phrasing, at least, rankles some.

27Karlstar
Mar 3, 2021, 4:23 pm

I had to add Crossroad by Barbara Hambly. I read it recently and I thought for a Star Trek novel, it was really outstanding.

28Aquila
Mar 3, 2021, 9:10 pm

As the author has been asked to be removed from similar lists in the past, fair enough.

>26 lorax: I agree that the purpose of lists like this is to highlight that it's not just men that write science fiction (a belief that lingers despite the last 5 Hugos for best novel being won by women writing science fiction) but I can also understand that it makes people feel like an afterthought addition to a category they don't belong in.

>17 aspirit: I feel like for series that the first book (or the most prominent - especially for series like Alliance-Union, the Hainish Cycle or even Vorkosigans) works better than adding a collection, but I've used Lord of the Rings instead of Fellowship of the Ring for lists in the past even though most of us own it in separate volumes, because it's just more elegant.

I hate the gappyness of my library not listing things I read in the past but don't own at times like these. Who else have I forgotten?

29iansales
Mar 4, 2021, 2:10 am

>25 igorken: Hmm, it also contains a Sriduangkaew story, and I've no desire to support her in any way.

30SChant
Mar 4, 2021, 7:30 am

>19 tardis: I've been adding only first book in a series, because it's my preference to read series in order starting with the first book and I feel like that's what serves most people best, too. I have no objection to people listing other books in the same series, but it is making the list a bit unwieldy.

I agree that new readers might be confused where to start with many books in a series added , but it depends on why the list is being complied, and who is likely to use it. I will use it to pick up on new (to me) authors, but also don't mind being completist for prolific authors like Bujold and Cherryh in case there's something that I've missed.

31andyl
Editado: Mar 4, 2021, 8:12 am

>30 SChant:

But how completist should you be, I see you've added a short story Articulated Restraint even though Mary Robinette Kowal is well represented?

I think a number of us could add individual short stories (and by women who are not otherwise represented on the list) but I am uneasy about doing so. It would make the list totally unwieldy IMO.

32Maddz
Editado: Mar 4, 2021, 8:14 am

What we should be able to do is to add authors and series as well as individual titles...

In some ways, the concept of a list of SF written by women comes across as somewhat patronising and ghettoising; is there a similar list of SF written by men? Rather than lists based on protected characteristics (gender etc), I would be more comfortable for lists based on sub-genre, e.g. a List of SF featuring Alternate Universes or a List of Cyberpunk novels or SFF novels made into films.

Another idea would be written by authors of a particular nationality; similar to the Locus country round-ups they used to do (I haven't looked a Locus for a while). The gender of the author should be immaterial to the list.

33Maddz
Mar 4, 2021, 8:14 am

>31 andyl: Unless they've only ever written in short form.

34SChant
Mar 4, 2021, 8:27 am

>32 Maddz: What we should be able to do is to add authors and series as well as individual titles...
That would certainly make it easier :)

>31 andyl: But how completist should you be
As shown upthread there are lots of sites where info about women SF authors/works are catalogued, so it comes back to my question of why the list is being compiled and who will use it?

35anglemark
Mar 4, 2021, 8:52 am

>34 SChant: my question of why the list is being compiled and who will use it

To be perfectly honest, the list is being compiled because Meg is LibraryThing's social media specialist and her job is to create activity and discussions on the site.

But I don't mind, compiling lists is always fun.

36SChant
Mar 4, 2021, 9:29 am

37aspirit
Mar 4, 2021, 10:31 am

I've added at least one short story-- the author was known for challenging John W. Campbell's misogynist statements with it-- but that's temporary. I believe we need a separate list so we can keep this list of books manageable.

38megbmore
Mar 4, 2021, 10:49 am

>34 SChant: I think >35 anglemark: 's answer at least partially covers the purpose of the list: to create activity and discussion. Here's a slightly longer version:

I was thinking about book lists. They are common in libraries, of course, but also on book-related sites. The power of LibraryThing, I think, is the knowledge of our members. A list curated by LibraryThing readers is going to be a very good list indeed. So, last month I tried my first community list: Must-Read books by Black Authors for Black History Month. When I promoted the list on Facebook, a suggestion was made that such a list was too broad and should be broken down by sub-genres. I liked that idea, so I put polls out on Twitter and Facebook to see what the sub-genre should be for March. I focused on women creators because it's Women's History Month in the U.S. and International Women's Month. Science Fiction was the clear winner.

My hope with any booklist is that both the creation of the list and the books themselves will spark discussion--as they have done here. It is indeed my job to do this, but I chose this job because I believe in building community around and through books.

39anglemark
Mar 4, 2021, 10:57 am

>38 megbmore: A very good comment! And we are of course all here for similar reasons, employees or not. We love books and reading.

40lorax
Mar 4, 2021, 11:47 am

If the purpose of the thread is for Women's History Month, then absolutely non-binary authors should not be included. Doing so, however well-intentioned, is perilously close to misgendering them.

41timspalding
Mar 4, 2021, 12:54 pm

I think we should consider changing the description to say "your favorite" or whatever. A list of all sci-fi by women would be a giant metadata project, and actually something LT could "do" using existing data. The real question is what is YOUR list of sci-fi by women.

42anglemark
Mar 4, 2021, 1:11 pm

>41 timspalding: I took that for granted, but it is of course good to have it explicitly stated.

43aspirit
Editado: Mar 5, 2021, 5:51 pm

>41 timspalding: LT has multiple tools already to determine what's popular or what an individual likes.

44iansales
Mar 5, 2021, 2:04 am

>32 Maddz: Perhaps it would be, if there were equal representation in genre discussions and commentary. Go and look for a list of "ten best sf novels", and the only woman writer on it is likely to be Le Guin. I started up SF Mistressworks because a lot of people seemed to think women writing science fiction was a recent phenomenon. Until the last few years, women were under-represented in all the major sf awards (and even then, it was only a handful of women who won multiple awards). Anything which demonstrates that women have been contributing significantly to science fiction since the first issue of Amazing Stories was published is doing good work.

45ChrisRiesbeck
Mar 5, 2021, 4:53 pm

>44 iansales: I noticed a while ago that Rebecca Ore was not in the category list on Mistressworks. Just never read her, or was there a reason not to include her?

46aspirit
Editado: Mar 5, 2021, 5:51 pm

The list is now "Favorite Science Fiction by Women Authors".

47gypsysmom
Mar 6, 2021, 12:56 pm

I notice there are only a few works by Anne McCaffrey on the list. She was probably one of the first women sf writers that I read. Any objection if I include more?

48tardis
Mar 6, 2021, 2:15 pm

>47 gypsysmom: I've been focusing on the first book of a series, rather than pad the list with everything by my fave authors, so I suggest adding the first of each of MccCaffrey's series. HOWEVER, that's just me, so do what you like :)

49iansales
Mar 7, 2021, 3:09 am

>45 ChrisRiesbeck: I've only read one of her books, Becoming Alien, and wasn't familiar enough with her work to include her.

50Karlstar
Mar 7, 2021, 9:22 pm

>47 gypsysmom: Good catch!

51vwinsloe
Mar 8, 2021, 9:02 am

Probably should change the title to "Favorite Books of Speculative Fiction By Women Authors." I've mentioned this list in several places and keep getting the inevitable push back about what is science fiction, what is fantasy and the usual squabbles about sub-genre classifications.

52anglemark
Mar 8, 2021, 9:14 am

>51 vwinsloe: Really? I would have expected the opposite, that people would start listing fantasy if it were changed to speculative fiction. This is the SF group after all, not The Green Dragon.

53vwinsloe
Editado: Mar 8, 2021, 12:12 pm

>52 anglemark:. That's what they are listing currently, e.g., Anne McCaffrey as noted above.

To be clear, the site-wide list for this month is "Favorite Science Fiction By Women" as per the first post here by megbmore.

https://www.librarything.com/list/42911/all/Favorite-Science-Fiction-by-Women-Au...

Lots of works are listed there that one would not consider science fiction. The push back that I got was mostly about The Handmaid's Tale being not science fiction. Of course, Margaret Atwood herself has always been a little squirrelly about her work being categorized as genre.

54lorax
Mar 8, 2021, 12:24 pm

gypsymom (#47):

Please don't. Seeing dozens of works by a few very popular authors everyone has heard of doesn't help, IMO. Let's list works by authors who aren't household names.

55aspirit
Mar 8, 2021, 12:39 pm

One of the problems with a list of favorites is that lesser-known names likely won't be listed. It's easier to think of and defend the inclusion of someone who's currently popular.

56megbmore
Mar 8, 2021, 1:40 pm

>46 aspirit: I did change it to "Favorite" in response to the call for some sort of framing mechanism. That did mean that I, myself, had to take some books off of my list since they were books I want to read and therefore not (yet?) favorites.

57andyl
Mar 8, 2021, 1:57 pm

>53 vwinsloe:

If you do not consider a book on the list to be SF then please down-vote it and leave an explanation

58aspirit
Mar 8, 2021, 2:13 pm

>56 megbmore: I know. I removed my list when the title changed because it was mostly books I'd recently heard about and wanted to remember.

59anglemark
Mar 8, 2021, 3:55 pm

>53 vwinsloe: The Pern books are technically science fiction, and those were the only McCaffrey ones I saw on the list.

60timspalding
Mar 8, 2021, 5:41 pm

>43 aspirit: LT has multiple tools already to determine what's popular or what an individual likes.

Right. But a list of sci-fi works by women would be ENORMOUS, and also, if we really wanted to do just that, we could mash up tags (sci-fi) and gender.

61paradoxosalpha
Mar 8, 2021, 6:04 pm

Lists seem to me to be implicitly about "picks," not just comprehensive aggregation.

62aspirit
Mar 8, 2021, 7:22 pm

>61 paradoxosalpha: Same to me. A group-cultivated list isn't the same as a tagmash. Otherwise, we wouldn't have so many lists of works that aren't "favorite" or "best of".

63aspirit
Mar 8, 2021, 7:33 pm

We do have related lists that should be larger. I've belatedly learned of Recommended Speculative Fiction by Women and People of Color.

By the way, I hope members contributing to the Favorite Science Fiction by Women Authors list are considering or have already added the books to Best Science Fiction Novels.

64anglemark
Mar 9, 2021, 1:45 am

>63 aspirit: Yes, that list could do with refreshing. At the moment it adheres to the old rule "To write good SF you need to be male or Ursula K Le Guin."

65vwinsloe
Editado: Mar 9, 2021, 10:26 am

>59 anglemark:. Huh, it has been a long time since I have read the Pern books. A cursory online search calls them Fantasy. I guess that is my biased thinking-
dragons =fantasy
Spaceships and/or aliens = science fiction

In any event, I was surprised at the pushback that I got about The Handmaid's Tale since I thought that dystopian fiction (ala 1984 and Brave New World) was pretty much classic science fiction. People just like to argue I guess.

66paradoxosalpha
Editado: Mar 9, 2021, 9:53 am

>65 vwinsloe:

The "cursory online search" isn't a good standard. The Pern books are definitely SF, set on an exoplanet with a SFnal rationale for the dragons. It's been a long while since I read them too, but that much was quite clear.

67vwinsloe
Editado: Mar 9, 2021, 10:20 am

>66 paradoxosalpha: Someone definitely should edit Wikipedia which calls it "science fantasy." Where would be a better place to look for a better standard? Perhaps it will inform my argument with those who say that The Handmaid's Tale is not science fiction.

68sturlington
Mar 9, 2021, 10:29 am

>38 megbmore: To the topic of curated lists, I think the reason why the Must-Read Black Authors list works is because you limited the choice to three, so someone adding to the list is forced to curate their selections. For my part, I chose three books that I felt were indeed must-reads and that weren't already represented. Organically, you grow a nicely curated list that way.

But then if you want to use it as a reading list, you have no option for checking off books. I've long wanted a feature added to LT lists that is a box for "want to read" separate from the current add to my list/thumbs down binary. So you could truly use these lists as reading lists, checking off when you have read a book. Ideally, of course, there would also be some sort of "don't want to read" option that doesn't seem as harsh as thumbing down.

I also wanted to point out this list: Best Feminist Science Fiction, which is a bit more focused on SF, mostly by women writers, with specifically feminist themes, although that list has gotten cluttered with some fantasy and non-feminist SF. But it may be of interest, and additions would be welcome.

69Maddz
Mar 9, 2021, 10:34 am

>65 vwinsloe: I'd say much dystopian fiction is science fiction; but not all. Although set in a post-WWIII future, I would hesitate to classify On the Beach as pure SF. I'm not sure about The Handmaid's Tale as I've not read it yet (dystopian fiction is not something that usually appeals to me and the past year has reinforced that).

Perhaps the reason for the push-back is (a) the author does not consider it SF and (b) (AIUI) there's no real technological reason for it to be SF; just an unpleasant extrapolation of some current sociological trends.

70vwinsloe
Mar 9, 2021, 10:51 am

>69 Maddz:. I'd consider On the Beach to be classified in the post-apocalyptic sub-genre of science fiction. But I also consider extrapolation of sociological trends to be "soft" science fiction or the sub-genre "social science fiction."

Reasonable minds may differ. For some people only technological or "hard science fiction" is science fiction. For those folks, The Handmaid's Tale certainly would not be classified as such.

71anglemark
Mar 9, 2021, 10:51 am

>67 vwinsloe: >69 Maddz: There has long been a rift between science fiction professionals and academics on the one hand and the general reading public on the other hand, when it comes to what is science fiction. I'd classify everything set in the future or in a non-magical alternate history as science fiction. That is the standard definition within the SF camp, but the general public usually want space ships or advanced technology to call something SF (or rather "sci fi").

I don't think there's much to be done about this.

72paradoxosalpha
Mar 9, 2021, 11:02 am

>71 anglemark:

Too true. And yet in the case of Pern, there are spaceships (at least in the backstory) and menacing alien life-forms, but they get drowned out by the trope-engine of !!dragons!!, because genre's not about writing or reading--it's about selling books.

73lorax
Mar 9, 2021, 11:03 am

vwinsloe (#65):

The Pern books, though, are dragons and space ships. And time travel. Later books get much more explicit about the science fiction aspect, but the very first novella ("Weyr Search") was published in Analog.

That said, though, I think arguments about where the line is between science fiction and fantasy are tremendously boring, and I also think there's little value in listing fifty-year-old works that anyone who has read SF has heard of and either read or chosen not to on a list like this. Add one to acknowledge the historical importance and move on.

vwinsloe (#67):

Edit it yourself if you think it matters. I wouldn't touch editing Wikipedia for a million bucks.

74AnnieMod
Editado: Mar 9, 2021, 12:41 pm

>69 Maddz: "I'd say much dystopian fiction is science fiction; but not all"

If it is dystopian, it is SF. Regardless of the author's ideas that they are not a SF writer (yes, they are in this book) :) What is pure SF? SF has spawned a lot of subgenres but a story in the future is definitely a SF story (edited to add: unless they are obviously fantasy (I thought it was implied but apparently it was just in my head so making sure it is clear what I mean)).

The whole "but this is not SF, this is Literature" nonsense is the long held position of people who think that all SF is pulp and that it is underneath them to read or like such a low-brow literature - ergo "it cannot be SF" :)

It it quacks as a duck and moves as a duck, it is a duck. Even if you don't believe that you like ducks usually. ;)

75Karlstar
Mar 9, 2021, 12:34 pm

>74 AnnieMod: I think I have to disagree a bit. Just because it is set in the future, does not make it SF. For example, in S. M. Stirling's Change series, one of the plot lines is a future where nothing more complicated than lead-acid batteries work, in terms of technology and there is definitely magic. Not sure if his books are dystopian or post-apocalyptic but I was say it is fantasy, not SF, even though it is definitely set in the future.

76AnnieMod
Editado: Mar 9, 2021, 12:42 pm

>75 Karlstar: Agree - magic unexplained with science is fantasy (my comment kinda ignored all of these as they are clearly different in my mind so I considered that implied - apparently only in my head) . I will edit to make it explicit. Thanks! :)

77Maddz
Mar 9, 2021, 1:20 pm

>75 Karlstar: I don't recall The Change was ever given an explanation in any of that series or in the Island in the Sea of Time series. The Aditi Shards multiverse is very similar, and that was explained as the 'Ring of Fire' was a side effect of an alien art installation, where the aliens are wiped out by one of the branches in the future when they refuse to stop using their dangerous technology.

The trouble is that SF covers such a range of fiction types. I tend not to classify dystopias as SF unless there's a strong element of science to the story. Speculative fiction, yes, but not necessarily science fiction - unless it's something like cyberpunk.

To me there's got to be a reason for the story to count as SF, and a drift into totalitarianism (or any other political 'ism) doesn't qualify (for me) a story as SF even if we're looking at the consequences years in the future. Basically, there's got to be something new or disruptive to the existing order - whether it's WWIII, space travel, aliens, parallel universes or technology.

If anything, On the Beach comes across more as anti-science fiction, as it's part of the anti-nuclear movement of the 1950s & 60s. (Similar to the films that we were shown at school detailing the awful consequences of nuclear war.)

>76 AnnieMod: My rule of thumb is that if the handwavium is magic, it's fantasy, if it's psionics, it's SF!

78AnnieMod
Mar 9, 2021, 1:29 pm

>77 Maddz: That rule works for me :)

79vwinsloe
Mar 10, 2021, 9:24 am

>73 lorax:. Okay, I am fairly certain that I did not get that far in the Pern series.

>73 lorax:, >74 AnnieMod: I agree that classification arguments are silly and boring. My only reason for raising it was the vehement argument that I got about The Handmaid's Tale being on this list of science fiction.

80Karlstar
Mar 10, 2021, 10:59 am

>77 Maddz: I don't think it was ever explained either, other than a mention of some kind of alien intervention. They can't really investigate it, since in one timeline there's no science and some magic; in the other they were sent way back in time.

To me On The Beach, which I really enjoyed, is just speculative fiction.

81quondame
Editado: Mar 16, 2021, 11:14 pm

I don't generally think of F & SF as easy to separate, and don't consider them different genres, but for the purpose of this list I think I can toe the line. But it sure would be great to have a list of authors only, no works, to be able to check whether an author has been included or not.

>23 Maddz: I'm pretty sure C.J. Cherryh's SF titles outnumber her fantasy titles by 3 to 1 if not more. Especially if the Morgaine novels are counted as SF (I don't, but see above)

>77 Maddz: Nope, psionics is only SF if it's solidly in the future. In the past F, in the present urban fantasy.

82cindydavid4
Editado: Mar 16, 2021, 11:14 pm

>27 Karlstar: Hambly has a huge number of Fantasy novels, including the Darkwrath Trilogy which is one of my favorite fantasy series of all time. She also wrote historic fiction such as A Free Man of Color and The Emancipators wife

Speaking of Fantasy, NK Jemisin has put out some amazing new work the last several years.

83Karlstar
Mar 17, 2021, 5:54 am

>82 cindydavid4: I am a big fan of Hambly, particularly the Darwath trilogy! I've read and re-read those quite a few times. I like a lot of her fantasy work and the James Asher novels are some of the few vampire novels I'll read. I've read some NK Jemisin too.

84cindydavid4
Mar 17, 2021, 8:25 am

Have you read Jemisins collection of shorts, How Long 'til Black Future Month? aside from the great title, lots of good stories.

85SarahAwa
Mar 17, 2021, 2:03 pm

I'd like to add The Cosmic Turkey by Laura Ruth Loomis and the Firebird trilogy by Kathy Tyers. :)

The first is absolutely hilarious and reminiscent of Catherynne Valente and Douglas Adams books. The second is space opera, written by a Christian but not overtly religious. The Firebird books (and HHGG) got me into sci-fi when I was in high school. :)

86randyernstmeyer
Mar 17, 2021, 2:25 pm

Wow, this is an amazing list. I will need to check our collection to make sure what we have. I think R.A. MacAvoy deserves a place here. Her Lens of the World trilogy is lovely, great characters.

87DeniseBrush
Mar 17, 2021, 5:44 pm

Hello all, just joined this group. Wanted to be sure my favorite women sci-fi authors were included on your list. I see you've already got Anne McCaffrey so I 'd like to suggest Connie Willis and Elizabeth Moon. Hope everyone is familiar with those great writers, if not I'd be happy to supply specific titles. -Denise B.

88cindydavid4
Mar 17, 2021, 6:06 pm

Nancy Kress has written several excellent sci fi books over the years, my favorite is Beggars in Spain about what happens when children start getting genes for sleeplessness, and what happens next. Been awhile since I checked to see what she has out recently

89Karlstar
Mar 17, 2021, 11:20 pm

>84 cindydavid4: I haven't read that, no, I'm kind of off short stories lately, though collections by the same author are usually better.

>87 DeniseBrush: Elizabeth Moon definitely made the list!

90iansales
Mar 18, 2021, 4:22 am

>86 randyernstmeyer: The Lens of the World trilogy is very good, but it's also high fantasy. This list is science fiction. McAvoy's The Third Eagle qualifies, however.

91andyl
Mar 18, 2021, 5:17 am

>87 DeniseBrush:
I think they have been added previously but anyone can add to the list. Just click the link in the first post and you can look through the list. Just click the Green plus sign in the top left and add a work yourself.

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