Cursor's Fury (potential for spoilers)

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Cursor's Fury (potential for spoilers)

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Nov 21, 2007, 1:14pm

Here is a place to discuss the third book in the Codex Alera series Cursor's Fury.

Summary from

The power-hungry High Lord of Kalare has launched a rebellion against the aging First Lord, Gaius Sextus, who with the loyal forces of Alera must fight beside the unlikeliest of allies-the equally contentious High Lord of Aquitaine.

Meanwhile, young Tavi of Calderon joins a newly formed legion under an assumed name even as the ruthless Kalare unites with the Canim, bestial enemies of the realm whose vast numbers spell certain doom for Alera. When treachery from within destroys the army's command structure, Tavi finds himself leading an inexperienced, poorly equipped legion-the only force standing between the Canim horde and the war-torn realm.

Publishers Weekly
Butcher deftly mixes military fantasy and political intrigue in the rollicking third Codex Alera book (after 2005's Academ's Fury). Gaius Sextus, the First Lord of Alera, plants his nephew Tavi in a new legion, where Tavi can gather information on the rebellious High Lord of Kalare. Tavi, now a full-fledged Cursor, or spy, infiltrates the legion under the assumed identity of an officer, a station the green young man has not yet actually achieved. Treachery from a supposed ally opens the legion to attack from its bestial enemies, the Canim, incapacitating the captain and catapulting Tavi to the rank of the legion's commanding officer. Cut off from contact with the First Lord and with few seasoned officers to guide him, he must lead the troops in a defense of the Imperium against a horde of frenzied Canim warriors set on annihilating the Aleri people. Readers will cheer Tavi every step of the way. (Dec.) Copyright 2006 Reed Business Information.

Jan 28, 2008, 7:29pm

I should not have started this book. For all I want to do is read it....and by doing so I am neglecting the early reviewer book that I should be reading. I made a pact with myself last week that THIS week I would read Cursor's Fury in the morning and my early reviewer book in the afternoon. Yeah, I so failed in that today. Maybe tommorow?

In other thoughts...if watercrafters are so great at what they do then why is there sickness at all? Characters keep mentioning a blight and other devistating illnesses but the watercrafters can't or don't seem to do anything about them. And why can't they fix scares like those that Amara has that prevent her from having children.


Ok...minor points of the story I know...but still they are thoughts that occupy my thoughts. Am I the only one who has thought about this? If so, tell me and I will keep such random rants to myself.

Jan 31, 2008, 8:51am

To those that have read the it just me or does time seem to move differently for each character?

At one point when Isana is trying to heal Fade someone mentions that 29 days had past since the siege on the city had begun. But then went the narrative moved to Tavi it seemed as though far less time had passed. Currently I am at the section where Amara and company are sneaking into Kalarus's citadel and again I just get the impression that their timeline is a little different than that of both Isana and Tavi.

Now I know that when characters are all in different places that things aren't always going to progress on a linear fashion. But I think that I'd ave preferred the narrative to have that small section with Isana appear later than it did in the story. For me at least, it would have made the timeline appear more consistent with the rest of the main characters.

Also, I am loving the battle between the First Aleran army and that of the Canim. It is awesome and Tavi makes a great Captain. I am almost hating the fact that JB decided to leave Tavi just as the Canim Regulars were about to attack the city to go see what Amara & Bernard were up to. Yes I wonder about them as I read about Tavi.....but compared to the battle their story just seems so slow. Though since I want to get back to the battle I am more likely to try to read this section faster.

Fev 1, 2008, 8:56am

I finished this book last night and can I just say....Harry who? This series is now officially my favorite. No more hovering on the fence and debating mentally between the two. This book was simply amazing. Even better then one before it.

Tavi has truly come into his own. I loved being able to read through his thought process to see how much he has changed and grown since he was a boy living on an unknown steadholt in the Valley of Calderon. How Gaius Sextus can continue to deny him is completely baffling to me. Of all the people that we have met so far in this series, Tavi is the best one to be able to unite the various people and races into a strong and united force.

I loved the flashbacks of Isana and Fade to the days of the First Battle of Calderon. Learning about their past gives a deeper understand to their actions in the present. JB also has a great gift of heightening the suspense...of knowing just the right moment to cut away from one character to go to the next...building the desire to turn the pages faster to get back to where he pulled you away from.

Loved it! Loved it! Loved it!

Fev 11, 2008, 12:31am

So I found a message/thing written by Butcher on the army set up and I shortened it and put it in an easier form. So for those of you on Cursor's Fury or Captain's Fury hopefully this helps.

Name - Size - (Size Broken Down) - (Leaders Title)

Spear – 8 legionares (File Leader)
Century – 80 legionares – (10 spears) (Centurion)
Cohort – 320 legionares – (4 centuries, 40 spears) (Tribune)
Legion – 4480 - 6400 legionares (14 - 20 cohorts) (Legion Captain)

Prime Cohort – 640 legionares – (double-sized of normal cohorts) (Legion Captain/First Spear)
First Spear – Senior Centurion

A Spear is made up of 8 legionares. These men do all of their work together and share a single common tent when the legion is in the field. In formation, they stand in a line, with the file leader standing in the front rank of the formation, the second man in the second rank, etc, 8 ranks deep.

There are fourteen to twenty cohorts in every legion. The specifics change from legion to legion, depending upon the needs of the various legions. Placida, for example, has a lot of big open land around it, and so carries more than the normal number of cavalry in each legion. Antillus is a northern city, in mountainous territory, whose legions primarily defend the Shieldwall, so they run with fewer scouts and skirmishers.

All legions are mainly heavy infantry units. Most carry at least one cohort of auxiliaries (scouts and cavalry). All of them try to have at least a century of Knights (which is referred to as a "cohort" in organizational terms, even though it isn't--except for the Crown Legion, which has something approaching an actual cohort-sized contingent of Knights.). Each cohort is led by a Tribune (except for the Prime Cohort, which is led, on paper, by the Legion's Captain, but is actually run by the senior Centurion in the Legion, the First Spear). And each Legion, which numbers between around 4000 to 6500 legionares, is led by a Captain.

Fev 11, 2008, 6:56am

That is helpful. Thanks!

Mar 14, 2008, 5:44pm

I finished the book last night. I've got to say that all three books had me confused about how much time was passing and this one seemed to be the worst of the bunch.

Unfortunately, I don't like these books as much as the Dresdens. They are extremely predictable - albeit I was surprised by Fidelias and Gaius at the end - and they are in that vein of fantasy where nothing permanent ever happens to anyone and everyone overcomes everything by being smarter, faster, etc. than the bad guys. I'm almost willing to bet that Amara and Bernard wind up with twins (a boy and a girl) at the end of the series.

Abr 4, 2008, 12:59pm

I'm sorry to hear that you didn't enjoy them all that much. I loved them and wish everyone could enjoy them as I did.

I am curious why you think they'll have twins?

Editado: Abr 25, 2008, 12:57am

Wow awesome book just finished it. I think so far my favorite in the series.

I noticed the time line jumping around though I think if you look at the individual timelines and ignore them being liner to each other, then they sort of make sense. Tavi's action time line is shorter maybe a week all up from the invasion? then I think they are recovering and rebuilding while the other events in the book take place.

From the initial attack in Ceres by Kalare Isana is just over 4 weeks roughly and Amara is Im guessing 4 weeks as well as it took them 3 weeks to get from Ceres to Kalare's capital.

The main flaw to my theory is the sky's clearing up, I am unsure if that is a result of what Crassus did or if that was a separate event to the sky's clearing? If it was a separate event then that explains why it took so long for everyone to find out about the battle in Tavi's story and my theory kinda works? If it was related then I have no idea about the time line. Hope that made sense.

Also I have wondered about the water crafters healing my only theory is that perhaps your "level" dictates what you can cure. The "ruling" class do not seem to suffer the illnesses such as blight and the ruling class is very powerful with their fury crafting. Where as the poorer people seem to be afflicted with it and might not have access to strong healers?

Also another thought perhaps the illnesses attack the furies as well?

Still digesting the book so more thoughts may follow :)

Maio 1, 2008, 4:07am

Just adding another thought. Was it just me or did anyone else think it strange that after spending months studying the furyless romans at the ruins that Tavi did not think to implement anything he had learned during the battle. Like the catapult. That would have been pretty damn effective against the Cainim.

I just thought it strange considering how intelligent Tavi is that at least one of those thoughts (except right at the end with the wind magnifying glass) were not implemented.

But perhaps that is just me :)

Maio 2, 2008, 1:33am

I thought the same thing, but wondered if Rufus Scipio would have access to that knowledge? Would he even have the materials? (prob. on the second)

Also when he was in power to actually implement these things did he even have time between when he was made captain and when the main battle happens?

Maio 8, 2008, 3:38am

That is a good point about Rufus Scipio however Tavi as Rufus could just say it was his idea? no you're right about as Rufus he probably couldn't use that knowledge as it wasn't published what him and Magnus had been doing.

I dont think the book ever mentions how long it took to build the catapult. But no I dont think he had time it seemed to me when Tavi was not fighting for his and the other life he was sleeping or preparing.