Spam reporting thread #45

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Nov 11, 2015, 9:53 am


Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:

-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.

-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.

Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors:
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post:
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page:
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.

Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.

For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam:
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting:

(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)

Nov 12, 2015, 9:38 am

Editado: Nov 13, 2015, 9:41 pm

Nov 14, 2015, 9:22 pm

Spam link in profile picture comment

Editado: Nov 16, 2015, 6:56 am

Editado: Nov 16, 2015, 7:19 am

Editado: Nov 16, 2015, 7:32 am
Korean. Don't know why they are getting through today.

Gone. They don't last long, anyway.

Nov 17, 2015, 12:23 am

Ug, I mean hooray! Both gone before I posted this message.

Editado: Nov 17, 2015, 8:41 am

needs flagged to death, found on the Spam? page

Editado: Nov 17, 2015, 9:12 am

>20 2wonderY: Unless the profile needs more flags, it appears the spam is stuck! I flagged quite a few of the posts but even I have my limit!

Nov 17, 2015, 9:43 am

>20 2wonderY: >21 MsMaryAnn: I flagged every post and the profile's still up there. I'm still working on my "Talk Spam-Fighting" badge to move up from silver to gold, though, so this guy's like shooting fish in a barrel. :-)

Nov 17, 2015, 9:51 am

>22 CurrerBell: You did good work, young man. Profile is now gone.

Editado: Nov 18, 2015, 9:31 am

Spam links in profile pics.

Edit: oops, repeat of >27 2wonderY:.

Nov 18, 2015, 10:11 am

There are 4 profiles that are still visible on the Spam? page and 1 spam post still wants rescuing even though the poster has been removed. Not sure if they need flags or if they are stuck.

Nov 18, 2015, 10:26 am

>29 MsMaryAnn: I noticed earlier that the processes that handle this seemed to have come unstuck in time (so to speak). Someone should probably poke Tim on this; it looks like a process needs to be restarted somewhere.

Nov 18, 2015, 10:45 am

>30 Lyndatrue: I left Tim a message.

Nov 18, 2015, 10:49 am

>31 MsMaryAnn: The profiles are gone. Thank you, Tim.

Nov 20, 2015, 2:32 pm

This member :

In the "about me" section, this : "Chuyên cung cấpvé máy bay đi Trung Quốc của các hãng hàng không. Với giá thấp và sự chuyên nghiệp đem đến cho bạn sự hài lòng. Xem thêm tại lòng."
means :
"Professionals offer Book flights to China by the airlines. With low prices and professionalism gives you satisfaction. More at" (Google traduction)

Nov 20, 2015, 3:22 pm

Editado: Nov 21, 2015, 10:09 am

Favorite books for 4th graders spam genre,

ETA: spam post finally gone, but spammer account needs more flags, apparently

Nov 22, 2015, 5:09 pm

Books for flipping' first graders (instead of fourth graders):

Nov 22, 2015, 5:26 pm

Is there really a point in reporting things here that are already in the spam area?

Nov 22, 2015, 5:33 pm

>42 MarthaJeanne: I didn't think so because the new system has been pretty efficient, and thus haven't done it much. That is, until yesterday when some took forEVER to get "headstoned," especially the spammers, so I posted this one here.

Nov 23, 2015, 1:02 am

>43 rybie2: Yep, it took quite a while for them to 'die' yesterday. Nearly did the same thing myself for a couple.

Nov 23, 2015, 3:32 am


Nov 25, 2015, 8:07 am

spam profile

Translation of about me is "Seo firms in general all of Turkey in Ankara are working to make the first page SEO consulting services along with corporate Seo service."

Nov 26, 2015, 2:52 am

I left a message on Tim's profile earlier, but just want to suggest that to visiting the spam area and flagging the obvious candidates might be helpful.

They don't seem to be going away, and haven't been most of the day. My guess is it's a server issue, but who can say?

Nov 26, 2015, 5:14 am

>51 Lyndatrue: I noticed there were 3 names that sat all day, dunno what was up with that!

Nov 26, 2015, 8:32 am

Spam profiles with spam links:

PS: >51 Lyndatrue:, >53 .Monkey.: Yeah, spammer profiles are still there after a day; they aren't being headstoned like they used to, and it takes a long time for the spam posts to go away, too.

Editado: Nov 26, 2015, 8:48 am

Yeah after posting I went to check and saw more had been added to the lingering pile. :/ At least they're relegated to the spam area.

Yikes, ShaAli is not only a spammer but trying to freaking sell email lists. Disgusting. Go flag their works as spam, too, folks! (And Rybie, you didn't vote!)

Nov 26, 2015, 9:11 am

Problem with these "spammers" is that their posts have been tombstoned so I can't read them. Even when I can tell from the subject line that the post was almost certainly spam, I'm really reluctant to flag an account like a lemming without actually seeing the spam itself.

Nov 26, 2015, 9:28 am

>55 .Monkey.: Ah, you noticed? That's my routine. When I flag a work as spam, I usually leave it to 4 other members to vote on it. I'll vote on the works I flag as spam only if there's some uncertainty by others, but I have no problems voting on works flagged by others. If I had to explain why, I suppose I'd say that with a lower threshold for squashing spam works (4 vs. 8 votes for photo flagging, for example), I've already put my opinion out there, and others can weigh in.

Editado: Nov 26, 2015, 9:48 am

ShaAli's "reviews" have just disappeared but the profile is still there.

Nov 26, 2015, 9:51 am

I could understand not voting on something that was questionable, but clear-cut ought to always be voted on, get it gone!

Nov 26, 2015, 10:57 am

>58 Taphophile13: >59 .Monkey.: It looks like spam profiles are stuck whether in the spam area or not. It irritates me that they aren't six feet under yet. Grrr.

Nov 26, 2015, 11:42 am

I suspect that whatever's stuck is going to stay stuck until today ends. Too bad, too, since that means those profiles can just go on misbehaving. The topics showing as tombstoned are gone, but if the profile is redflagged, then it's still able to spew. :-(

I dunno. Maybe someone wants to try sending an email to the info account? Maybe Seth (aka sryder)? I'm not volunteering to do this, merely pointing it out as a potential avenue.

Nov 26, 2015, 12:29 pm

It's a holiday. They're stuck in the spam area, and not making new posts. Relax, they'll get to it when they have time.

Editado: Nov 28, 2015, 3:37 am

A Korean got through. Several threads.


Editado: Nov 29, 2015, 9:52 am

Author spam

Already has a note from Lorannen from the last time s/he tried it.


BTW, the author just sent me the following message:

Today, 9:09am
I'm not spamming I'm just trying to get some feedback on my book that's not spamming

For what it's worth, the $10.99 paperback (36 pages long) is written with the same disregard for grammar and punctuation. The author is the only LT member to have entered it.

Nov 29, 2015, 10:28 am

>66 MarthaJeanne: "36 pages long"

Well, at least s/he stopped when s/he had no more to say. That's better than most.

Nov 29, 2015, 11:49 am

Sorry, folks, I figured out who it was, and flagged the account. Yeah, I'm heartless. No, I'm not naming names (I actually searched through the URL history to find it, and it'll take work by anyone else who is thinking about flagging it).

There comes a time when "enthusiastic author" no longer excuses bad behavior. There are so many over there in the Hobnob with Authors group trying to do the right thing; I see no reason to give any further kindness or courtesy to someone who clearly doesn't grasp even the vague principles of how to behave in society.

Editado: Nov 29, 2015, 11:59 am

It's not about being heartless or not, we are explicitly told not to flag overzealous authors, but to let staff deal with it.

Off the flagging page itself, in big bold letters:
Important rules

Flagging is for commercial spam only.
Overzealous bookstores, authors and publishers should be reported by email.
Misuse of this feature is a violation of the Terms of Use.

Editado: Nov 29, 2015, 12:01 pm

You can find the name more easily than that. I haven't flagged the profile yet, but if s/he spams again, I won't hesitate.

Nov 29, 2015, 1:16 pm

I understand and agree (usually) with the arguments against flagging authors. In this case, I claim it is the right thing to do. This is not someone who intends to change. I prefer to encourage the putative author to move elsewhere. I didn't name the profile deliberately, since the number of "flag without question" folks might have gone off and done so, and (especially in this case) it ought to be a deliberate act, with awareness that sometimes there is an exception to everything.

This is one of them.

{It is as much to encourage the positive behavior as it is to punish the negative in this case. We have a little community of struggling authors over on the Hobnob groups. Many of them started out making a similar mistake, and changed their ways. One truly believes in the metaphor implied in discussions of the tragedy of the commons. The "September that never ended" is a prime example.}

Nov 29, 2015, 1:45 pm

I am by no means suggesting bad behavior be ignored. But the terms state that it is staff who is to deal with them, and that flagging them is itself a TOS violation. You are meant to let Loranne know and let her deal with it, not to flag yourself.

Editado: Nov 30, 2015, 3:21 am

Korean spam

Gone. That was fast.

Editado: Nov 30, 2015, 3:28 am

Dez 3, 2015, 8:20 am

author spam, though not very effective

I left a note on her profile.

Dez 3, 2015, 11:42 pm

Dez 5, 2015, 2:26 pm

I saved one tonight! First time I've been able/had to do that.

Dez 8, 2015, 4:06 am

Este utilizador foi removido como sendo spam.

Dez 8, 2015, 4:18 am

If the spam is right here, we can flag it quickly.

Dez 8, 2015, 4:33 am

Dez 8, 2015, 7:30 am

New strategy for spammers? Lots and lots of posts in ongoing threads. Seems the new system is taking care of those adequately. Thank you Tim!

Dez 8, 2015, 9:05 am

It's not new, just lesser used.

Dez 11, 2015, 10:50 am

Creator of a spam venue ( which I have archived:

Editado: Dez 12, 2015, 4:51 am

Self-promoting author. Post flagged but no flag to member.

ETA: Same poster:

Have not sent private message to him. At this hour of morning, I'm too cranky and I'll leave explanation of TOS to someone who can be more diplomatic.

Editado: Dez 12, 2015, 7:41 am
Author spam. Probably the same member.

Author, for reference only.(

Dez 12, 2015, 11:15 am

>114 CurrerBell: and >115 MarthaJeanne: I'm finding it amusing that the two books authored actually appear in multiple copies in his library.

There's actually another member (not the same one) that has each book. On the other hand, at least he's not rating or reviewing his own books. I'm kind of disappointed not to have seen the author spam (curiosity, more than anything).

Hopefully he's seeing that this approach is not going to work out.

Dez 12, 2015, 11:19 am

He added them on .com,, and the .com books music movies source. Nothing amusing about it, he simply doesn't understand how catalogs here work.

Dez 12, 2015, 11:28 am

Fairly long post advertising free book through Amazon.

Dez 14, 2015, 7:47 am

>121 anglemark: Not sure that really counted as Spam - counterflagged the post but by the time I went back to the member, they'd both been killed ...

Dez 14, 2015, 8:36 am

What was the post?

Editado: Dez 14, 2015, 8:45 am

Editado: Dez 14, 2015, 8:48 am

>123 .Monkey.: Drive-by registrant posting link to youtube video promoting his religious leader. But OK, if the spammer isn't selling anything, it isn't spam? I'm still learning, I guess.

Dez 14, 2015, 10:37 am

>125 anglemark: Enough people thought it was spam that it no longer exists. That's all that matters.

Dez 14, 2015, 11:02 am

>125 anglemark: I would call that spam. If they were in a religious group and made an effort to engage while sharing a vid, maybe, though as a first post I'd still be iffy. But just a random religious clickbait for views? Nope, spam.

Dez 14, 2015, 11:06 am

>127 gilroy: Sure, but someone posting the links here might lower the bar.
>128 .Monkey.: That's what I thought as well. In any case, next time I'll post in the Is this spam? thread first.

Dez 14, 2015, 11:13 am

>127 gilroy:

That's not all that matters. I have seen posts/profiles/groups that weren't spam flagged because people didn't bother to check and just jumped the gun.

Dez 14, 2015, 11:20 am

>130 lilithcat:

That assumes all the flags came from here.
(I never saw post or user.) For all we know, the group members killed it.

Dez 14, 2015, 11:46 am

>123 .Monkey.: & >125 anglemark: It was a link to a YouTube video about BKS Iyengar, commenting on the fact that he's also the Google doodle today because it's would have been his 97th birthday today, also mentioning that he wrote a lot of books (which he did). In Book Talk ... which is a general catch all. Maybe the poster was 'drive-by' but they weren't selling or converting and if it's Google doodle for the day, it's hardly random. Not saying it added much but to the discussion but I wouldn't say it was obvious Spam personally. Moot anyway ... gone now.

Editado: Dez 15, 2015, 4:23 am -- a Korean who made it through

Edit: Gone now.

Editado: Dez 15, 2015, 8:51 am korean again

gone, but there were at least 6 topics.

Editado: Dez 15, 2015, 8:56 am

Dez 15, 2015, 11:53 pm

How do I rescue topics and profiles from Spam? thread? There are two topics right now.

Dez 16, 2015, 12:01 am

Click on the life ring at the left end. I just saved bookieworm's posts.


Dez 16, 2015, 12:20 am

Thank you!

Editado: Dez 16, 2015, 5:06 am

Dez 16, 2015, 1:07 pm

member/author just happens to have a book in this list.

Dez 16, 2015, 1:21 pm

No doubt the author is proud to be on the list. Publishers Weekly is a legitimate publication though, so I don't think it qualifies as spam.

Editado: Dez 16, 2015, 1:25 pm

Oops - double post.

Dez 16, 2015, 1:26 pm

>143 2wonderY: It's my favorite kind of "author" too. One who gives five stars to all the books she's written, and (in addition) it turns out that she's added the book she wrote multiple times, giving it five stars each time. I'm thinking about leaving a message on her profile, but then, she's been here long enough to understand that attempting to game the system might not work out in the way she'd intended, or hoped.


Dez 16, 2015, 1:30 pm

>144 aeclark: I'd be more inclined to give the author charity if she hadn't also added three reviews for this book (two of which are not reviews, but merely the same list provided in the topic above). In addition, one of the other reviewers, seems to be the author, using a free account.

Man, it just makes me sad when someone decides to do this kind of thing. It really does.

Double bleagh.

Dez 16, 2015, 1:34 pm

It's self promotion and it's not allowed.

Dez 16, 2015, 1:45 pm

And more than likely, another sock puppet:

Dez 16, 2015, 2:53 pm

Sad really. If the author feels she has to enter her book 6 times, giving it 5 stars, to get a good rating, even without the suspected sock puppets, you know it has to be awful garbage.

Dez 16, 2015, 3:13 pm

How cute! And now she's made her own group.

Editado: Dez 16, 2015, 9:06 pm

Crap! I had a long, drawn out, public comment that I was leaving on her profile, and cleverly closed the tab. I'm going to rewrite it here, and then copy and paste it there.

Please understand that I'm telling you this with as much kindness as I can muster.

Please note that your topic was deleted, and your group is headed in that direction as well. It is apparent that you have created at least two accounts, and that they have multiple "copies" of your book, which they've reviewed, and given five stars. In addition, you seem to have six copies yourself (note that your reviews have been flagged out of visibility for violations of the LT Terms of Service).

In general, self-promotion by authors is not welcomed here on LibraryThing, except for the very pleasant group called Hobnob with Authors (, which I recommend you join.

You started off so well here on LT. You may have let your enthusiasm for your new book lead you into pushing the envelope here.

I strongly recommend the following: Delete the copies of your books from your two other accounts, and then delete the accounts. Delete all but one of the copies from your own library, and your review, and the five stars you've given it. It will sink or rise on its own virtue, and it will have more chance of being welcomed here if you don't appear to be stacking the deck in its favor.

No need to reply.

I made it private, instead.

ETA: Interesting. Either she, or someone, deleted those two accounts we'd noticed. Oh, no, wait. They just got made private.

Dez 17, 2015, 10:54 am

Tons of posts caught with the spam life preserver. Hoping a few more flags on profile will knock those out.

Dez 17, 2015, 9:25 pm

I've flagged the profile, will try to flag the books as well.

Dez 17, 2015, 9:27 pm

>157 yolana: Many thanks. Flagging the profile is the most important. I'm flagging the books too because they haven't disappeared yet.

Dez 17, 2015, 9:36 pm lingering korean spam in book talk

Dez 17, 2015, 9:38 pm

Dez 17, 2015, 9:42 pm

Why is still going?
Have they found a way around Tim's new spam filters?

Dez 17, 2015, 11:21 pm

Many of the casino ads are suppressed but the profile still needs flagging.

Dez 18, 2015, 1:20 am

I think that this is going to take manual intervention, either by Tim, or someone with his powers. I'm sure that the profile should have been suppressed by now, and yet it is not.

Dez 18, 2015, 1:22 am

I am trying to flag the works this spammer registered, but I can't find how. If the profile is gone, are all the works also gone? Probably not, huh...?┐(´д`)┌

Dez 18, 2015, 1:24 am

The jacksonlawrence profile finally died. Whew. The "books" in that library had already been suppressed as spam (although I admit I didn't check every single one).

Dez 18, 2015, 3:30 am

Those are gone.

Dez 18, 2015, 11:15 am

Spammer needs flagging.

And, if you're inclined to vote on spam works, his 30+ entries could also benefit from a swift demise.

Dez 18, 2015, 11:43 am

>169 rybie2:

I must say that that is quite a random bunch of spam works.

Editado: Dez 18, 2015, 12:25 pm

>169 rybie2: A spammer that takes the time to choose a display for books is one determined spammer. Member since Oct 29; guess they had time to learn their way around a tiny bit.

ETA: At least the reviews have been flagged into invisibility.

Editado: Dez 18, 2015, 1:02 pm

>171 Lyndatrue: Now I guess we just need to reach critical flagging mass to get the profile removed before he adds more, or even undoes the votes on the spam works.

Editado: Dez 18, 2015, 1:10 pm

Is there a way to handle spam lists? I've just come across created by spammer

Edit: maybe I found my own answer; I flagged the profile and now I don't see the list anymore

Dez 19, 2015, 2:22 am

Dez 19, 2015, 7:06 am

Editado: Dez 20, 2015, 8:30 am
korean bot slipped through

already gone!

Dez 20, 2015, 8:32 am
another took its place, not quite sure how they're slipping through.

Dez 20, 2015, 8:33 am

It's starting to spew, kill it!

Dez 20, 2015, 8:40 am
another korean bot slipped through. I think our spam dragnet thingy is not working this morning.

Dez 20, 2015, 8:54 am

Yes, there were several earlier as well.

Dez 21, 2015, 2:53 am

We're getting Koreans in talk again today. The current one is

Dez 21, 2015, 3:46 am

Editado: Dez 21, 2015, 5:52 am

Dez 21, 2015, 7:31 am

user is gone, but the topic stays?

Editado: Dez 23, 2015, 12:52 am

I may not understand a lot of French, but this one's pretty obvious.

ETA: Gone. Outta here. Done. Over.

Dez 23, 2015, 1:59 am

Dez 24, 2015, 9:49 pm

Dez 28, 2015, 11:09 pm

Dez 29, 2015, 12:36 am

Dez 29, 2015, 12:44 am

Well, *that* was unpleasant. We've gotten spoiled. I wonder how they're getting around things, though...

Dez 29, 2015, 12:56 am

Dez 29, 2015, 9:03 am

Oy, they are getting through. My flagging skills are a tad rusty. LOL

Dez 29, 2015, 9:38 am

Okay, time for another topic.
Este tópico foi continuado por Spam reporting thread #46.