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I'd be happy to repeat some of the topics (especially graphic novels) as well as see new ones.
I wouldn't mind combining the various gothic categories into just one or two (maybe "early" classic/gothic, and "later", such as after 1930).
Apart from sub-genres, I'd be interested in categories like:
- books made into or based on movies
- Stephen King and his prolific family (esp. Joe Hill)
- haunted houses (though the current broader category, "hauntings and ghost stories", is fine)
- end of the world
- 1970s - I think this decade was really a formative one for modern horror; so many great choices
Would like to repeat the women category and short stories
I like all of the suggestions in >3 mathgirl40: especially reducing the gothic categories, and I will always read a Stephen King or Joe Hill book at any excuse.
>3 mathgirl40: I thought the same about the Gothic and older categories - maybe 'Early Gothic to Late Victorian'? Movie-linked books is a fantastic idea (maybe we could watch the movies too), and you are talking my language with 'Haunted Houses'.
>4 sturlington: I like 'End of the World'! 1970s is a good idea too, the more I think about it.
My own ideas:
- Early Gothic to Late Victorian
- Short Stories (not combined with anything else - all told we didn't read many)
- Graphic Novels combined with Children's and YA
- Non-English (not combined either for same reasons as Short Stories)
- Non-Fiction (true crime, investigations of hauntings, Forteana - cryptids, raining frogs, etc, Ripperology, and hoaxes)
>5 Moomin_Mama: I'm good with all these categories too! I think we need 15 months in the year. :) I particularly like the idea of a non-fiction category.
I also like your idea of watching the movies along with reading the books if we do a movie/book theme. I have to confess ... I've always wanted to watch the movies I listed above but I never have. I'm rather timid when it comes to scary movies but I'm hoping that, if I read the book first, I won't find the movie so frightening. :)
Short stories would be a great category all by itself because you could read some traditional like Poe or some newer like Gaiman etc....
While women was great you can just about find a woman author for many categories so I would also like to see Non-English be a standalone category next year.
I would love to do Graphic Novels again next year. I am perfectly okay with combining the category with Children's and YA.
I could live with or without 1970s. Lots to choose from if we pick this category.
Definitely haunting and ghost stories because there is SO much to choose from.
Supernatural would be good for monsters, vamps, wolves etc...
Psychological I like because lots can fit into this category.
That's all I've got. I'm sure I'll come up with more and/or change my mind. I'm pretty open to suggestions.
>7 luvamystery65: Quite a lot of the categories are quite broad, which is great as it gives us all lots of leeway to pick and choose.
It's only a few of us but so far it seems that cutting down the number of Gothics is popular, plus splitting some categories and maybe re-combining them with other things. I reckon this would leave us picking between only a few new topics to fill the gaps. Narrowing those few would be the way to go, which of course we don't have to do just yet. I agree with >7 luvamystery65: that I'm open to suggestions - as long as I have a basic list of topics as a guide, I'm happy. I'm also happy, if there's no agreement between us, to re-do a year with what we have, because most topics give quite a bit of flexibility.
>3 mathgirl40: Ditto. I really liked the graphic novel category. And I love your addition: "books made into or based on movies." Could that include short stories, especially since some writers (like Stephen King) have movies based on their short stories? And would novelizations be ok to add to this category?
>5 Moomin_Mama: I do like the nonfiction idea. That'll be an interesting mix of books.
>4 sturlington: The 70's was such a good decade for horror but I'm sure I've missed loads. As it's a decade you're particularly keen on I'd love some recommendations. Burnt Offerings immediately came to mind as I've never seen the film or read the book, but have heard good things about both.
>9 saraslibrary: I've always wanted to read about Borley Rectory and The Enfield Poltergeist (The Highgate Vampire too but it's out of print and expensive). I'm also intrigued by the story of Jack the Ripper.
>10 Moomin_Mama: I think having a "books related to movies and/or 1970's" topic would be fine. We could pick books that fit into either category, and there are plenty that fit into both.
Though I've stated some preferences, I'm really OK with whatever categories are chosen. They all sound good to me.
I have Burnt Offerings on my wish list, I'll probably get to it sooner rather than later. Might be a good Halloween read.
Some authors from King's list: Thomas Tryon, Richard Matheson, Robert Bloch, Ray Bradbury, Jack Finney, James Herbert, Ira Levin, Anne Rice, Peter Straub, John Wyndham. And of course most of the best King books were published in the 1970s and pretty much all were made into movies.
I'll admit I'm very ignorant about Borley Rectory, The Enfield Poltergeist, and The Highgate Vampire. (Holy crap! You weren't joking about the latter book being expensive. I just saw what it was going for on Amazon--$99+.) Jack the Ripper, of course, you'll find tons on. :)
>11 luvamystery65: Yeah, Silver Bullet/Cycle of the Werewolf is a good one. :)
>12 mathgirl40: Cool! :) I'm glad those are acceptable.
>13 sturlington: & >16 Moomin_Mama: Thanks for bringing up Danse Macabre! :) I'll have to flip to that section.
I did create an LT list for the books recommended in Danse Macabre, if anyone wants a look:
>3 mathgirl40: I agree with this:
"I wouldn't mind combining the various gothic categories into just one or two (maybe "early" classic/gothic, and "later", such as after 1930)."
- end of the world
Are we going to vote on them?
Posting on my phone sorry for any errors.
Dithering is fun...that is, if it's what I think it means. *scratches head* Goofing off? You could always flip a penny or something. I have yet to master that skill. I usually end up flipping it into oblivion and the cheapskate in me goes in manic mode trying to find it.
No need for sympathy, I found my own little oracle, an Unazukin:
I need to replace her batteries so I'm lacking her guidance at the moment :)
Ooh, Unazukin dolls! Those are oddly cute and creepy at the same time. They look like the Russian dolls that fit inside each other. So you can only ask them yes or no questions, I'm guessing by the page?
>41 luvamystery65: But in that heat, you have to dither or you'll die from heatstroke. So dither away! :) Or wait, maybe I'm thinking of siestas during the day. We really need those at work here in the US, as well as some paid dithering time. Good words! I wonder how I can convince my bosses to add those to our job duties AND get paid for doing them. ;)
>42 Moomin_Mama: Naw. It's a multi-cultural thing. Every country and culture has their word/slang for being indecisive and wasting time. :)
(I don't know how to set up the wikis here, so I'm just throwing the idea out there!)
(ETA: In the wiki, the ''' on either end of the word COMPLETED will bold it.)
I've started adding in my rating, as well, in case that helps anyone out (yes, I do realize different people consider 3, 4 or 5 stars differently, but I still think it gives an idea), though no one else seems to have followed suit with that in the wikis for the Category Challenge group.
And thank you to those who have offered to help set up a wiki for next year!
>53 Moomin_Mama: LOL! I was thinking the same thing: No need to apologise for having a life!
My offer to help start a Wiki page for next year still stands, but for those of you who are interested in learning how to add a book or start a page yourself, I've created a thread in the Category Challenge group for this topic:
>58 sturlington: I couldn't have said it better. Same here. :) Plus I really need a horror group like this one to get my TBR pile under control.
>59 Moomin_Mama: Ah, the loved/hated "book bullets." ;) I try to keep recommendations in mind when I'm at work or out shopping, but I think for me I need to focus on the books I own. And I know what you mean about falling out of touch with horror. I was glancing back through my reads over the years, and I really haven't read a lot of horror in the past few years or so. I watched quite a few horror movies, sure, but not enough books that gave me the willies. (Those are hard to find anyway, horror or other--true crime, thriller/mysteries, etc.)
And agreed: I love everyone's individual tastes and enthusiasm for certain months. It's fun to get different views on sub-genres of horror, too, because there's so much about horror I don't know.
>60 LibraryCin: Same here! :D My biggest years of horror-reading was in middle and high school, only a decade after you (the 90's). You got the better years of horror, or at least when it was in full-swing. :) Sadly, I've noticed horror has been dwindling, though it always puts a smile on my face to see horror sections in bookstores and at library book sales. So, yes, horror isn't dead! :)
• There was an excess of Gothic focus on purpose, because that was a large part of the intent of the group's creation. ;) Gothic was mentioned in the CC ideas and I'd said how it could nearly work by itself with all its subgenres, and many people weren't very familiar with the genre, so then there was encouragement to do such a thing. :)
• All the suggestions look fine & feasible to me, though it looks like there's a couple more than 12 and some question about which things ought to get put together, so that needs some further discussion and/or voting.
• I have no problem "hosting" as many of the threads as need be. I think I saw 4? folks say so far they wanted to and I'm good with pretty much whatever (though I don't really do the apocalyptic thing so if "end of the world" is one, someone who's into that might want to take it?), as I read pretty much all types of horror, so, yeah.
So, shall we rehash the ideas all in one list here and see about refining them further? (editing to adjust as comments are added!)
- books made into/based on movies (with a focus on 1970s)
- early modern horror: 1950-1980
- Stephen King & family
- haunted houses (/ghost stories)
- end of the world
- pre-Victorian Gothic
- post-Victorian Gothic
- Short Stories
- Graphic Novels + Children's/YA
- women authors
That's 15 ideas. Did I miss any? Does anyone want to suggest any more, alter any of these at all, etc?
My own thoughts on the rest?
Personally, I'm not into apocalyptic stuff. Nothing against it, I read things that fall under it on rare occasion, but it's just not an interest of mine; so it's up in the air if I'd partake of that one. I think I also usually tend to view most of them more as sci-fi than horror, too, but that's just me, and of course genres are always overlapping.
I would probably have monsters with paranormal, for obvious reasons. ;) But if they're wanted separately that's fine. However, some things do need to be cut, so, that's definitely a suggestion for one.
One of those cuts can be reducing Gothic to one month only, since folks seem to be a bit done with that, lol. A couple of the other categories can have Gothic titles fall within it, so anyone who wants to explore more than one month of it still within the categories can look for titles that fit those (like monsters/paranormal, short stories, non-English).
What say ye?
I definitely like non-English as a focus, though.
>69 sturlington: I totally agree: we should have a Stephen King month, or something along those lines. :)
>75 .Monkey.: - >85 LibraryCin: Thanks for rehashing the lists we've been talking about. I had kind of forgotten some of them. :) I'm pretty easy to please. Whatever's on the list, I'll definitely give it a go. I'm not super crazy about gothic lit, so combining pre & post-Victorian Gothic would be awesome by me. And I do like the idea of women having their own month, because horror does tend to be written by men (or at least have male pen names). ETA: "Diversity in horror" is a great idea! That can stretch all over the board, I guess, to include LGBT, right?
Actually, I get the feeling that we're all pretty relaxed about the challenge topics. They're offered as guidelines, and we can make our own decisions about what fits into the challenge and what doesn't.
I would ask please if we can pick a topic in September that lends itself to sequels or has series. I'm thinking Monsters or Paranormal, even Graphic Novels.
Here is my stack for the month of October. I'm still trying to find a Joe Hill to read and waiting for my copy of The Anatomy Murders by Lisa Rosner.
Yeah I'm sure we can manage that. Just remind once the voting is settled on, in case it's forgotten by those of us with wretched short-term memories who don't follow that. ;)
For me, horror experienced in the theater has always trumped the watery versions of TV and movies. And is way over the top of books. I scream because the live actors scream. It's just more real when it's "actually" happening right in front of you to breathing people who I feel I have a magical intimate relation to.
So, how about some stage horror?
"Arsenic and Old Lace" heh heh
"The Woman in Black"
"Sweeney Todd, The Demon Barber of Fleet Street" -- a book, a play, a musical, a movie -- everybody's happy!
Don't feel obligated to entertain (Ha!) any of these suggestions, especially not to humor this intruder. I won't be reading them. Too scary!!