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Original/classic Gothic works
Women & non-English
[Gothic] Pulp & weird fiction
I read The Other recently, a great example of modern Gothic. Also Shirley Jackson is one of my favorite writers of all time--female, Gothic, psychological.
Loving Joe Hill right now. He falls into the supernatural category and is clearly the heir to King's throne.
This looks like a fun year. I'll try to follow along as much as I can although I'm worried I've already over committed myself ha ha.
And rightly so...
>16 sturlington: Is Poppy Gothic? I read Lost Souls aaaages ago and know I enjoyed it, but I have only vague memories of the actual substance. I did stick McCarthy's Outer Dark in "modern Gothic," it would probably fit under southern as well, though. I'm guessing The Road and Blood Meridian would fit probably fit? I haven't read them, though so just guessing. The Border Trilogy wouldn't for sure. I only know of a couple titles by Cherie Priest and Karen Russell, they didn't strike me as being Gothic. Have you read them? What is it that's Gothic about their writing?
Traditional/Classic Gothic works
#The Private Memoirs and Confessions of a Justified Sinner
#From A Buick 8
>22 PawsforThought: That I could not say. It sounds like maybe it all takes place in/around the big old house, so there could be an element of the Gothic in that, but there are a lot of tags on a lot of books that make no sense whatsoever, so it's possible that's one of them. I'm guessing The Robber Bridegroom and maybe The Ponder Heart would fall under the southern Gothic heading better. Possibly various of her short stories? But I haven't a clue about them.
Faulkner, The Sound and the Fury, I believe Absalom, Absalom! may be, one of the reviews on Sanctuary mentions southern Gothic... I think it's mostly just a part of his style of writing in general, I'd bet there's elements of it in many/most of his works.
>27 PawsforThought: Yeah, my library doesn't have her either but I think she's available in the achtergrondcollectie so I should be able to get her. Which I'm actually going to look into very soon 'cause she happens to be the current Monthly Author Reads author, lol.
>16 sturlington: sturlington: Is Poppy Gothic? I read Lost Souls aaaages ago and know I enjoyed it, but I have only vague memories of the actual substance. I did stick McCarthy's Outer Dark in "modern Gothic," it would probably fit under southern as well, though. I'm guessing The Road and Blood Meridian would fit probably fit? I haven't read them, though so just guessing. The Border Trilogy wouldn't for sure. I only know of a couple titles by Cherie Priest and Karen Russell, they didn't strike me as being Gothic. Have you read them? What is it that's Gothic about their writing?
Poppy -- I haven't read her in so long, but she's definitely Southern! :-) I thought she had a Goth bent to her -- does that qualify?
McCarthy -- I was thinking Child of God and Outer Dark. The Road and Blood Meridian are both horrific, but I don't know if they'd qualify as Gothic. Maybe more psychological?
Cherie Priest: I haven't read it but I see her series starting with Four and Twenty Blackbirds listed as Southern Gothic quite often.
Russell: I've only read Swamplandia! but it definitely has some gothic elements and it is Southern. There's an old abandoned house in the middle of the swamp, a possible ghost, a lot of atmosphere, etc. I was also thinking her short stories might also qualify.
Re: Poppy, he's a he, just so that's out there (he's trans). Maybe I ought to break my BookDepository ban and order a title or two of his, I've been meaning to read more for like, 15 years at least, and I always used to check the shelves at BN hoping, but they didn't ever have others, at least the ones I was at, when I was there. I think this is a good excuse to finally fix that, and support an author I enjoy and have even conversed with on LJ. :)
OK, I'll list what I'm reading for the categories, for the titles that I haven't see so far up there:
Graphic novels & short stories: Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Season 8; I've half of the Season 8 on the shelves.
Pulp & weird fiction: Whispers from the Abyss based on Lovecraft myths. I've bought this one on Kickstarter. I've never read Lovecraft and it's an anthology of short stories; so if I don't like the genre, I suppose that it'll be less painful ...
Hauntings/ghost stories: The Little Stranger or Charlotte Markham and the House of Darkling
Light/humorous: Sense and Sensibility and Sea Monsters. I've read Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and I've found it so-so, we'll see ..
I haven't read Harris at all, but it looks like they'd probably fit. Will add her. :)
Ah, definitions, okay, I will try to work on something for that!
Meanwhile, on Eudora Welty, I think she's about as far from horror as you can get, but she is often listed in with southern gothic writers, as is Carson McCullers, in both cases because of their regular use of the grotesque (in regard to characters, as with Flannery O'Connor).
With Cormac McCarthy, The Road and Child of God both easily fit under a definition of horror even though I don't generally think of them as such. Just beware of Child of God if you don't know what you're getting into and have only tried other McCarthy works--I know a lot of readers who've been permanently turned off to his writing because of that one book!
>39 whitewavedarling: Now you've just intrigued me, hahaha. Is it really so different? So many people have made remarks about The Road and Blood Meridian being so dark and... gory? I'm not sure if that's the right word, maybe gritty is better? I don't know, I really am going to have to find copies of all these to read, too much chatter about them and me knowing nothing! LOL.
Right, a lot of Gothic isn't "horror" in the way that many people think about it today but it has a certain kind of atmosphere to it, a psychological element, a claustrophobic location, etc, things that create that sense... For instance, Ann Radcliffe wrote about "the difference between the sensation of terror her works aimed to achieve and the horror Lewis sought to evoke." The word carries various connotations, but in regards to our KIT here I'm looking at horror as encompassing all the aspects, including more in the way Radcliffe was using "terror," something that makes you sit up straight, on the edge of your seat in anticipation of what's coming, and so forth, you know? :)
>42 LoisB: Exactly. The bloody gory fiction is one kind of horror, but there's so much more! :)
A portrait of Barbara by Robin Squire
Meanwhile, for those folks not so interested in traditional horror (which is what I'm interested in, pretty obviously, after getting way too much gothic in grad. school), it occurred to me that YA might also be a good way for some folks to go in order to walk the line of horror and creepy. Things like Snicket's Series of Unfortunate Events are fun reads, and could work in either the light/humorous category or the contemporary/modern gothic. As far as the traditional gothics go, there's also that one work by Austen which fits in as her take on the gothic...I'm blanking on the name, but I'm sure someone here will remember what I'm talking about!
>45 whitewavedarling: Hmm, well like I say, definitely intrigued! :P I actually didn't care for House of Leaves, I thought it was a really big let-down, but I did think the lead up was good. Huh, I had no idea the Snicket books were horror-esque. I can't stand overhyped stuff so I never looked at anything about them (plus their being children's books). Alrighty, I can add that.
Do we have a wiki? I was hoping to see what everyone else will be planning to read.
(Whereby "or" I mean both, of course, but that if you were looking for a sole place to put it, either of those would do.)
Here's a list I made, which is a survey of gothic/horror fiction from the 19th century through today, heavily weighted with women writers: http://www.librarything.com/list/9822/sturlington/
>6 .Monkey.: - Can I ask what Louisa May Alcott wrote that classes as horror - I'm just re-reading her Little Women. It's 30 or so years since my last visit, but seeing her name there, I was aware that I only really know of her Little Women series (and only read LW and maybe one other (pretty sure that was all) and didn't know that she'd written anything else. You've got me curious now!
PM, are there other pieces of horror/thrillers she wrote as well? If so, I want to look them up too :)
I had wondered the same thing, so thanks for asking! :-) I might now have to look into those...
Ken Lopez's latest e-list of Horror-ible Books is out. They're out of my price range, but the titles may generate reading ideas for some and the vintage covers & author inscriptions are always worth perusing.
Here is the link to the thread.
(And, >75 luvamystery65:, have fun! The Monk is one crazy read :) )
>77 whitewavedarling: Sure, an all-purpose horror thread is a fine idea.
>81 ccookie: American Psycho would probably fit in Psychology. Or even Slasher/Thriller (there are some very graphic scenes in the book). Just my opinion.
>82 ccookie:, >83 sturlington: Oh, that one looks good! Fledgling could even fit into the Women & Non-English category if you need help filling that one up.
>90 LibraryCin: Yeah, that one looks pretty complex, especially the "published in 1915" square. You're also doing CATs? Wow! You'll be busy next year. :) Best of luck!
So far, he's doing well and he might get to come home today. We're waiting on test results to see the numbers. I'm happy that he started eating again yesterday, so that's a good sign. I know there will still be lots to learn and do when I get him home, too.
Very glad to hear yours is doing better.
I am picking up Angel and bringing him home tonight. I'm happy he's coming home, but scared/nervous about how I'll do taking care of him.
Anyway, apologies for "hijacking" the thread! I just don't know where else to update people now that it's been mentioned.
LOL! Don't feel bad hijacking the thread, because I think I just wrote the longest paragraph so far. Sorry for babbling. :D
Tonight was much better, but we'll see if tonight's strategies work again or if he's now "wise" to the tricks!
>109 PawsforThought: Yeah, I always thought if I adopted one with a name I really didn't like, I'd try to find something that sounded close. Otherwise, mostly I'll just keep the names. My other boy was a stray and didn't have a name. The name I chose is unusual, but I liked it and he was named after one of Jupiter's moons, Io.
I see a few people have started their own threads. Should I do that instead? I will if there's no monthly thread for each topic, but if there's a monthly thread, I'll probably just stick with that.
Well, let's hope Angel hasn't caught on to your new tricks. :) I wish the best for you all. Give him an extra pet for me. I love cats! :)
>111 LibraryCin: That would be good to have! I don't know if it'll be the "Horror in General....What are we Reading?" thread (maybe that's just a thread to feel out what everyone's into). But I think it would make things easier to organize if we had a thread for each month, obviously starting off with January and Traditional/classic Gothic works. I may have to skip that month, because I'm trying to stick with books I own. But we'll see. I might find something by then. *fingers crossed*
Sure, you should definitely start your own thread. :) I think some people do it, too, just to keep track of what they've read, whether with lists or trackers, etc. Your choice. :) It'll be fun.
Maybe I will start my own thread, as well. Whew! I'm in so many groups on so many different sites, it hard to remember where to post everything, though!!! I would still love to have monthly threads, as well, though.
>114 LibraryCin: I never did do radiation treatment. Is that the best way to go, in your opinion? I don't have a cat yet that has hyperthyroidism, but I'd like to know my options. My previous vet just wanted to push the pills, nothing extra.
LOL! I know what you mean about trying to keep every group straight. Some people list them on their profile page. For me, that helps, so I know which group is which. Good luck with all of them! :)
I'd recommend Swamp Thing for anyone who wants a horror graphic novel, but of course it depends if it's available or if affordable copies can be tracked down. The first few volumes - covering Alan Moore's run - are great horror comics. They start off with Moore rewriting Swamp Thing's history (handy for anyone not familiar with the series) but very soon Swampy is sent off on a journey across America by the mysterious Constantine, encountering every kind of horror along the way.
Ooh, I've never seen/read Swamp Thing before. I wonder if we have that one at work. Thanks for the rec! :) Also for horror graphic novels for April there are:
* Lenore series by Roman Dirge (funny stuff; this could probably fit into November's light/humorous category as well)
* The Dark Tower graphic novel series by Peter David (I've only read the first one, but I thought it was pretty good. Definitely recommended if you're a Stephen King fan.)
* The Zombie Survival Guide: Recorded Attacks by Max Brooks (a very quick read)
* Death Note series by Tsugumi Ohba (give this series a go if you want to try some manga)
I could probably go on and on, but those are just a few of the ones I recognized on this tagmash page. You can always tweak that URL by putting graphic%20novel and/or manga in the comic place. (The URL: http://www.librarything.com/tag/comic,+horror.) There are TONS of good suggestions! Hope this helps :)
Oh good, I'm pleased they fit. Had a look under my bed (which is where I hide all my charity shop book binges) and found copies of both, plus Bloodsucking Fiends, all very handy for this year. Misery will be a re-read, though it's been a long, long time, but the others will be new, and I've not read any Christopher Moore yet so looking forward to that.
Manga's a good idea, I'll see what my local library has, it used to be pretty good for graphic novels and manga and it's only next door (yes, my local library is my next-door neighbour - I am truly blessed)!
Next door to a library? Perfect! Or terrible, if you can't resist their book sales. ;) Manga's definitely fun, though most people forget you have to read them right to left (though a few Korean mangas can be read left to right). Here's a picture of how to read them (in case you or anyone else didn't know). Those instructions are in most mangas, with a "Warning! You're reading the end first" page.
Library book sales... I have been known to turn up for those :)
LOL! Spoke like a true book addict. ;) Library book sales are always fun! I actually work my appointments, etc around one particular library sale, because they only have a sale twice a year and it's HUGE. Love it! :)
And yes, the paw in the mouth trick is every bit as disgusting as it sounds!
LOL! Yeah, the paw in the mouth is very cat-like. My dog would lick my mouth, but my cats? No way. They use their dirty little paws. Not that my dog's tongue is any cleaner. ;)
>131 LibraryCin: Cat mind control. ;)
>132 Moomin_Mama: & >133 LibraryCin: Absolutely! :) They were also the first original laptop before the invention of the, well, you know. ;) And I think they like to make their point sometimes about that--walking/laying across the keypad while you're typing, leaving wet nose smudges on the screen, etc.
The Google books free version has 176 pages of large print, while the Bloomsbury version has 256 pages of small print. Both have 24 chapters, although when comparing first lines they don't have the same chapters.
I'm terribly confused. Is there anyone familiar with the book who can help me? If anyone wants a look at the Google version, it is free on Google Books for anyone with a Google account.
First chapter starts "Letter 1. To Mrs Savile, England, St Petersburgh, Dec 11th 17-- You will rejoice to hear that no disaster has accompanied the commencement of an enterprise which you have regarded with such evil forebodings."
"On 31 October 1831, the first "popular" edition in one volume appeared, published by Henry Colburn & Richard Bentley This edition was heavily revised by Mary Shelley, partially because of pressure to make the story more conservative, and included a new, longer preface by her, presenting a somewhat embellished version of the genesis of the story. This edition tends to be the one most widely read now, although editions containing the original 1818 text are still published Many scholars prefer the 1818 text, arguing that it preserves the spirit of Shelley's original publication (see Anne K. Mellor's "Choosing a Text of Frankenstein to Teach" in the W.W. Norton Critical edition)."
I found the original version easily enough by doing a Google search; there is a copy on Archive.org:
For anyone interested in reading the book, this version is shorter at just 210 pages of large type. This is what I'll be reading for the HorrorKIT (who wants a revised, more conservative version?).
For me, the easiest way to find books is by using tags, but given the examples above, I'm not sure what I'm finding really fits. Thoughts?
Some that came up for me included:
Joyland / Stephen King
Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter / Seth Grahame-Smith
Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children / Ransom Riggs
The Cabinet of Curiosities / Preston and Child
11/22/63 / Stephen King
Can anyone comment if any of those really fit or if they were (I'm thinking more likely) mis-tagged? Thanks! I think there were a few others, but these were the ones I more want to get too sooner.
I figured this one would be difficult for me.
>152 saraslibrary: Thanks, Sara. If I was sticking to the "true" definition of what it's supposed to mean (based on author examples and such), I probably wouldn't read anything for June. (Although I did choose and attempt a classic gothic book...) Maybe I will just pick one that came up, then.
William Hope Hodgson
M. R. James
The majority of them I'm not familiar with or don't own anything by them. I'm trying to stick with books I own; that's why I chose My Work is Not Yet Done by Thomas Ligotti for June.
Sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes by suggesting we broaden the June theme. I'm fine with sticking with the original theme if that's what people prefer. I was just trying to find some other related options that might work for people who don't want to limit themselves to pulp and weird from the early 20th century. :)
ETA: Checking the tags here, Joyland has "pulp" quite prominent, and also has "pulp crime" and "pulp-fiction" as tags. I'm going with it.
That said, it's more of a mystery with maybe a ghost than real horror. But read it anyway!
ETA: I imagine S.K. has just had various people tag all his books with horror, regardless of whether or not they really are!
>169 Moomin_Mama: I like those ideas for different categories! We'd likely still repeat some of them, as there aren't likely enough to do a new category for each month.
No doubt we'd repeat some categories; some of them are staples of horror with plenty of books to choose from.
By the way, Humble Bundle has a new pay-what-you-want comics bundle out. You can get the first 3 Locke & Key volumes for any amount you want to give. You can also pay more to get the remaining 3 volumes. I thought I'd mention this deal here, as I loved this series, and several others had read it during April's challenge.
ETA: ... and on a night like tonight where I've finished both a print book and an audio, I need to keep track of both!!! I do one at a time.
I'll start up the June thread for this group.
A few weeks ago, I borrowed the e-book edition of a The Library at Mount Char by Scott Hawkins. I was only able to read 25 pages by the due date. Amazon describes the book as Neil Gaiman meets Joe Hill. Having read both authors, I have to concur that based on the few pages I read, this is indeed a very dark, weird and disturbing horror and fantasy book. Some reviewers have had difficulty in pegging the writing to a specific genre. I decided to borrow this book again, the impetus being that even though the plot is very weird and unconventional, there is a certain something that piqued my interest. I may find this is a very talented debut author or I was just a rubbernecker along the way.
But, I might give this one a try:
Those Across the River by Christopher Buehlman